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    *** Official Clevo P150EM / Sager NP9150 Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Ryan, Apr 7, 2012.

  1. smokinokie

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    I agree. I reinstalled after a bad driver upgrade experience and it's been smooth sailing with factory drivers ever since.
     
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    Have people been able to play skyrim using the 7970? I have configured the switchable graphics to use both the TESV.exe and TESVLauncher.exe and when i go to play it is using the HD4000 because default are set to low and if i do ultra i get 4-10fps. This is the only game i have had issues with, anybody similar?
     
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    bsod 124 is unknown hardware failure if im not wrong, got it numerous times while trying to overclock my I7-2700. Have you tried removing 7970 and test out the rest of the system?
     
  4. jlp0209

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    Has anyone had problems playing F1 2011 with the 7970M? I am using the drivers off of the Clevo CD and made sure to select "high performance" in the graphics properties when running the .exe file and also have my power set to high performance. I am getting 38 fps on the "high" setting, vsync off, when I should be getting close to double that on "ultra." I tried reinstalling the drivers. I am not overheating so it is not that. 3dmark11 gives me normal scores (P5874), so I am convinced it is driver related. I don't have the time or patience to wait for new drivers, I didn't sign up to be a beta tester. Figures the main game I play won't work....is it worth it to just return it or if possible just get an Nvidia card (as I should've done in the first place)?
     
  5. Meaker@Sager

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    Use the 12.7 betas.

    Beta = not WHQL which are identical to Nvidia's "leaked" drivers.

    Or you can wait a couple of weeks for the WHQL signature on exactly the same driver code.
     
  6. jlp0209

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    Looking a couple pages back, when I install the 12.7 beta, I just install the driver only and keep everything else stock right? Aren't people having problems with 12.7 too? It is worth a shot, will try when I get home tonight.
     
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    Ignore this post, cant delete?
     
  8. awakeN

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    If you remove the 7970M it doesn't boot up.
     
  9. gkrules

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    I updated to the 12.7 7970m drivers, and I keep getting BSODs when trying to play Tribes. :/ atikmpag.sys is the problem.
    Guess I'll go back to the stock drivers...

    EDIT: The 12.7 modded drivers blue screened me during install, and I had to boot into safe mode to remove them. Installing the drivers from the DVD now.
     
  10. joelectron

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    Really? (I'm assuming you found this out the hard way.)
    Anyone have an idea as to why this is the case? Because this certainly limits the number of debugging options available.
     
  11. jlp0209

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    Did you do the custom install of the driver only and leave CCC stock?
     
  12. RDSTork

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    I have the same issue with my NP9150.
    When I received it from the factory, I tested all the devices to see if everything was in good condition and I received this blue screen when I was trying to play a Blu-ray disc from my Blu-ray reader. It gave me an error "my video card (7970m) was not able to support the resolution ask by the blu-ray", then appear the BSOD (same as this one but with different hexa numbers).
    I uninstall the drivers of the AMD 7970m with Driver Sweeper then try to reinstall the stock drivers from the Sager CD and it doesn't work at all, it freeze during the CCC install... I did an hard restart then retry... always the same problem. So I tried to download and install the AMD/Intel drivers from the Sager website, when I try to install those drivers, the same BSOD appear....
    That's bad, I don't know what to do, I can't install the stock drivers, I can't install either of the drivers from the AMD and Sager website....
     
  13. gkrules

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    Working like a champ. Thanks, dude! No more BSODs in Tribes!

    New 3DMark: P5867 (graphics: 5670)
    Old 3DMark: P5856 (graphics: 5644)
     
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    A weird thing- 3dmark11 in the first tests with stock driver is 5690 and now without any change in the drivers it dropped to 5460. Any ideas?

    Sent from my Optimus 2X using Tapatalk 2
     
  15. jlp0209

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    Great to hear! I can't take credit for that though, it was posted a few pages back by 3Stars. I haven't tried this yet but will as soon as I get home from work. I hope this solves my F1 2011 woes.
     
  16. gkrules

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    I ended up uninstalling everything, using Driver Sweeper, then using CCleaner to clean the registry. I installed just the CCC from the DVD, and installed everything except CCC from the modded 12.7 beta drivers.
     
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    Who did you order from ? Yah mine won't work at all. Tried everything spent dozens of hours trying everything last week. I am going to RMA they are lagging on responding to me thoigh
     
  18. RDSTork

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    What doesn't work at all for you, your blu-ray reader or the 7970m ?
    I bought it from a Canadian Sager reseller "Reflexnotebook" in Montreal, I email the vendor few hours ago, I am waiting for an answer too...
     
  19. micahmatthew

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    I ordered from eurocom another Canadian reseller. Wonder if Canada got bad cards. My card won't work at all
     
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    Hmm doesn't 3610 come with integrated graphics card?
     
  21. RDSTork

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    haha its just a bad batch maybe...
    I will keep you inform about my case.
     
  22. awakeN

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    It has been confirmed by resellers, i think, that it doesn't boot up when you remove the 7970M. I haven't tested it myself, and I think I might've gotten it confused with something else. Feel free to try it out and report the results :)
     
  23. gkrules

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    Does anyone else get a different shade of backlight on the right Alt and Ctrl buttons?

    Edit: I only notice it when it is white or cyan.
     
  24. E.Blar

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    No, we know because mythlogic tried it when playing around with the graphics switching.

    Yes it does, it's a bios thing.

    No, but I get a different shade on the windows key which is right between them.


    Blaaargh now my G key isn't working very well... :mad: Fortunately I just so happen to have 2 external keyboards ling around.
     
  25. micahmatthew

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    You can't run on solely the HD 4000 intel or 7970m without the other being installed because they are MUXed together, the intel hd 4000 is a passthrough for the 7970m and vice versa from what I've learned, so its not even a BIOS issue, its a motherboaord architecture issue w/ the MUX
     
  26. HTWingNut

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    HD 4000 can be displayed independent from the 7970m because the HD 4000 is connected directly to the display. The 7970m is connected through the HD 4000 which requires the HD 4000 to be active in order for the 7970m to display.
     
  27. awakeN

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    yeah, it looks pinkish on the right alt ctrl when it's white, and my left arrow key and delete are brighter than all the other keys
     
  28. A1AsusG73

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    Just received mine and I'm loving it. No complaints so far
     
  29. Clickbeast

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    Just adding to complaints, got my 7970m on my NP9170. Terrible performance, 15-20 fps in popular games on medium settings.

    Tried stock, 12.5, and 12.7 beta drivers. Nothin' works. Already got my RMA number, sending back to xoticpc tomorrow. Good luck to the rest of you, may AMD not treat you early adopters like guinea pigs on their underdeveloped / faulty drivers.
     
  30. Donald@Paladin44

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    Clickbeast, just to be sure...you did go into each game and set it to use the AMD 7970M and not the HD4000...correct?

    You mention the drivers, but you never mentioned setting the video card correctly to the game, so that is why I ask.
     
  31. birdsonbat

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    thats what i was thinking his problems seemed more severe than others even with under utilization cuz of enduro
     
  32. Clickbeast

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    Of course. In fact, here's the order for every game I launched (I knew how Optimus/Enduro works):

    1) Start game
    2) immediately exit game from menu
    3) Set game to high performance
    4) Restart game

    :)
     
  33. gkrules

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    Setting it before I start the game for the first time has worked every time for me.
     
  34. HTWingNut

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    You just have to find the executable, otherwise if you start and exit the game it should "pop up" in the list of "frequent" programs.
     
  35. Clickbeast

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    Exactly, I'm just lazy, and restarting it once takes the same amount of time as finding the exe
     
  36. birdsonbat

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    noob! im pro at scrolling through the directories....
     
  37. sha7bot

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    While this method might work for most games, you'll want to go into Catalyst Control Center and add the .exe from there.

    I also recommend entering the game, starting task manager, (Ctrl+Alt+Del) find the running process, and add that to your High Performance list.

    The game's .exe might occasionally draw on another .exe to render the engine. For example: WOW uses a launcher that AMD might not pick up on.
     
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    I was about to say this. The .exe that you launch first and that CCC detects may be different from the .exe that runs the game.

    What game are you trying it with?
     
  39. Clickbeast

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    A good example is diablo 3.

    Still having stuttering problems, but changing my hardwareclass=1 in the d3prefs.ini file really helped. I think it has to do with shaders and the 7970m's current drivers.

    Changing that id to 1 uses lower quality shaders and so forth. Running the 12.7 beta drivers (with the stock sager CCC) and it's definately running better. Not as good as I want it to, not nearly, but it's an improvement.

    Gives me a bit of hope that it's certainly just absolute crap drivers with an awesome GPU hardware.

    Also on the topic of profiles, diablo 3 runs off of diablo3.exe. No other secondary executable is used.
     
  40. YariiThinkpad

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    Watch, AMD will blow the doors off with amazing set of drivers :). It could happen!
     
  41. agumpert2

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    Another thing most people overlook is you have to be plugged in for the 7970 just a thought good luck!
     
  42. Clickbeast

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    Hahhaha wouldn't that be the day...

    Of course. Also you don't have to, you can set the power profiles :)

    But of course i wouldn't be testing this without making sure I was plugged in.

    Funny how it's also the first thing xoticpc's tech support asked me ; ) I asked the guy if that happens a lot. "Every day" people complain that things aren't running smoothly, when they're on battery...with power saving settings on
     
  43. Achusaysblessyou

    Achusaysblessyou eecs geek ftw :D

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    If they did, that'd be the day I go Red... but that won't be in my lifetime...

    OR... if they did, you'd see their prices rise because now they just hired an actual software team!
     
  44. lentus

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    True that! :)
     
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    hmmm... It's my first laptop experience. 5 days now, that I got my NP9150 and I am disappointed, paid 2k+ $ and nothing work well.
    Blu-ray doesn't work cause of the video card, Diablo3 is not clean with every video setting at high. I passed more then 8 hours to read and try to understand the 7970m drivers problems... It's also my first experience with AMD Radeon, I am an NVIDIA user since 10 years with my desktop...
    You guys know a lot more then me about computer.
    Do you think there is a chance that AMD will fix the drivers problems of their 7970m ? Since when this video card is out on the market ?
    I don't want to wait 5-6 months for a good drivers version...
    Is it a good move to change my 7970m for the new Nvidia GeForce GTX 680M ? Is the 7970m really better, I mean the hardware of the GPU look very powerful but I don't feel very confident with their drivers and software.
     
  46. Bonzai11

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    I was originally going to go for the 7970m, but people kept posting about the list of problems so I decided to go with a 670m instead. Being able to able to run the graphics card on battery is a cool plus I didn't know was possible and eventually I can just pick up a 7970m for a cheaper price.

    Coming from an 8800gt and Q6600 system, I love this laptop and I don't need to max anything out.
     
  47. awakeN

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    PHP:
    It you can afford the $500 upgrade, for like 10% increase but (probably) better drivers. Wait for 12.7 AMD Drivers, then you can decide what you like. Either way, by the the time those drivers come out, you'll still be under your 30 days no questions asked policy.
     
  48. RDSTork

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    Thanks !! I will wait !
     
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    I think it is pretty obvious that AMD rushed out the 7970M so that they would release before the 680M. It seems like it worked, and a lot of people are buying a system with a 7970M. But then the problem with doing that is that they never had time to get Enduro and the drivers working properly. Give them some time and performance should improve, even though AMD does not have a good reputation for driver quality. The 12.7 drivers are a step up and they don't even support the 7970M officially.

    I don't think the 680M is worth it. I typically prefer Nvidia, but you are paying a premium because it is Nvidia in this case. You know you will get better drivers, but then you are paying $300 more for that.
     
  50. RDSTork

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    Yeah.
    True
    That's weird that AMD release a 7xxxM series without offering support for this new series on their website. When you want to download new drivers on AMD website, the choice stop at 6xxx series...
     
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