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Just received mine.

First thing that I noticed is that my wrist is getting scratched.....anybody else feels that?

 

A message I got from Xotic said that phase 2 lasts 5-12 business days. I'm on my 7th business day now and 9th normal day since being in phase 2 at the moment.

 

Yes, depending on how you type or use the touchpad that can be an issue. I'm mostly using a wireless mouse instead of the touchpad now.

I'd call it an ergonomic failure on CLevo's part to leave the edge so sharp.

 

I actually like how sharp the edges are. It makes the laptop look sleek. I also don't really have the problem of it scratching my wrists. My wrists are usually hovering about the edge so that I feel more ergonomic.

and it's cool rubbing my finger along the sides of it when I'm bored.

 

Thanks for the confirmation.

Our notebook schedules are synchronized lol, I guess we ordered at the same time

 

I see what people mean by sharp edges. I so far don't have an issue with it, but can see how it could be problematic. They could have easily radiused those edges to about 1mm and it still would have looked fine yet not be so sharp.

 

awaiting BF3 benchmarks kthxbai.

 

Anyone have an idea how to make this fully functional?

 

In the meantime: http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...-new-gtx-680m-review-truth-7.html#post8684472

3DMark11: P7057, X2403, 68C

 

wow htwingnut those are awesome numbers

 

I ordered mine on 6/22 and it went to stage 1 on 6/25 and stage 2 on 6/27. So even though I ordered mine on 6/22, the total business day countdown didn't start until 6/25.

Stage 2 for me was 7 business days.

 

Damn, I ordered the same date and went into stage 2 at the same time, but mine didn't ship today

 

Hopefully yours will be on its way soon. I actually followed up with my rep at xotic Thurs and was a bit worried because i saw 2 people on the forums that ordered after me and received their ship notices. This seems to happen quite often after some more research, however.

Best of luck.

 

Ship dates can often be held up due to certain components in your order being back ordered. Certain screens, WiFi cards, HDDs or SSDs etc. that are back ordered when your order comes up in line could then push your ship date back until those components arrive.

Therefore your order date may not necessarily control your ship date.

 

Riiiiiiiiiight. Like every single person who has a problem would be here. Because this is a driver issue, it's not random and affects everyone equally. And even if there was a statistical bullet to dodge, ~200 people with problems is a huge amount considering the number of 7970m's owned on NBR.

There's only one displayport but I know what you mean and AW is the exception and not the rule.

What, their "HD" PVR? This costs the same and is much better. Only thing is, I can't confirm whether or not it will work with the P150EM. Some say the usb3 bandwidth is high enough, some say it isn't. +rep to anyone who can get me a solid answer and a source.

Ah, there you are Maybe you can shed some light on the randomness of Fn+1? On some P150EM's it works, on others it does nothing.

And to make things even better, it's Mr. Super Famous Reviewer Man

I promise I'm not a troll... But you will first need to get a Nvidia card. Basically, you can't.

I was actually doing that when I read your post. No joke.



So, at the risk of sounding like a whiny nag, I tried everything you guys and Mythlogic suggested and I still can't activate my OS. Now it's started trolling me by taking me out of fullscreen mode every 30 minutes if I'm trying to watch something. Any other ideas? My Y key is still a troll too.

While we're talking about benchmarking, I thought I'd share something I like to use to test out CPU's: Bloons Tower Defense 5. Sure, it's just a 2d flash game, but it has this thing for trying to display and animate upwards of 10,000 sprites at a time, each with hit detection for half of the others, on later levels and if you want to set any kind of record you need to focus more on lag reduction than actually winning. Later on the game actually starts telling you to save and quit before your computer gets mauled by lag to the point that flash crashes. With my 3720QM I got all the way to round 90 with 3 aircraft carriers before I began to get any audio lag, which is frankly amazing. On my old thinkpad I would dip down to 1FPS as early as round 80, this hasn't happened to me now until round 120.

 

Hey guys. So I got my 9150 today and it is awesome. the 7970 is a beast but... I was going to play Starcraft 2 and made are to put it on high performance. When in game on low i could barely run 40fps on low. Any idea why?

 

you're probably running off the HD 4000, make sure that the 7970m is actually running the game (add it in catalyst)

 

1. Are you plugged in?
2. If yes, then it's your drivers.

 

I am that's what I'm saying. When I pulled it up it was already high performance. But switching from power save to high performance doesnt change a thing. Also have stock Clevo drivers if that helps.

 

100% agree. Definitely too sharp. Especially compared to my old M570TU which were significantly more rounded and just slightly lower - I find the P150EM edges too sharp and the height of the edge just a little too high.

Pretty big fail unfortunately but I'll live with it.

Yep. Not sure how this got passed as a good design.

Have you gone into the Catalyst Control Centre => Switchable Graphics and you should see it as Starcraft2.exe or something similar - set it to High Performance in there.

I've noticed some games automagically get High Performance...eg 3DMark11 and Modern Warfare 4 but Diablo 3 didn't and Supreme Commander 2 didn't. I'm guessing that there is a list somewhere in the driverset?? and some games exes are listed and some aren't. Usually when a game or app isn't listed after you exit the Switchable Graphics thingy pops up and asks you to configure it.

Just for the record I've run 3DMark11 twice now out of the box settings and drivers and have got P5831 and P5830.

My desktop running an [email protected] and an AMD Asus Direct CU II 7970 gets P8684, P8700 ish...

Pretty amazing little machine really.

Sounds like the GTX680M is even more of a beast but you pay for it.

My only issue is with this sharp edge but I will adapt...that and thinking I maybe should have gone for the P170EM with an extra 1kg of weight...

Oh well. Done now.

 

Have you gone into the Catalyst Control Centre => Switchable Graphics and you should see it as Starcraft2.exe or something similar - set it to High Performance in there.

I've noticed some games automagically get High Performance...eg 3DMark11 and Modern Warfare 4 but Diablo 3 didn't and Supreme Commander 2 didn't. I'm guessing that there is a list somewhere in the driverset?? and some games exes are listed and some aren't. Usually when a game or app isn't listed after you exit the Switchable Graphics thingy pops up and asks you to configure it.

Yes. Thats all been done. Thats what I was talking about switching it back.

 

Yeh sorry man not sure. Adding it in Switchable Graphics is as far as my knowledge/experience goes so far. I've only had mine for 2 days and haven't installed SC2 yet.

I would love it if you could "SEE" when the 7970M was running as opposed to the Intel 4000 - some sort of visual indicator somewhere - like when you run SLI or CF you can enable a little onscreen visual in the corner.

I'd also love it if you could see a full list of all the apps and games in the Switchable Graphics section - sort of like the Add/Remove Programs section in Control Panel...just a definitive list.

Hopefully it's teething issues and AMD will sort out these issues with better drivers...

Hopefully.

I've had a couple of earlier AMD/Ati notebook setups and they've been really simple/good. No better or worse than the Nvidia/Intel setup on my Dell Vostro 3300. I haven't had an Optimus laptop yet so can't say how that is.

I've also found GPU-Z hangs at the splashscreen as per this thread

How to start gpu-z? - techPowerUp! Forums

I think that's teething as well.

Heck my desktop 7970 was so new when I got it that 3DMark11 didn't have them listed yet.

 

Hi All,

Have read through this entire thread and now have square eyes!

Has anyone from the UK got a P150EM? If so, what suppliers would you recommend?

Secondly, I currently have a M860TU with a glossy screen but I notice that a lot are choosing a Matte screen. If anyone is reasonably 'local' to me, it would be good if I could compare the two?

Thanks.

 

Pretty sure you can just go to your local computer store to check on that. If they don't have any matte screens out on display, then i dunno.

 

Some games have multiple .exe files, where the .exe file you originally run calls another .exe file. I'm not sure if SC2 is one of these games, but if it is, what may be happening is that you have only added the first .exe file to Catalyst and not the second. If SC2 is one of those games, then you should go into it and manually add all the .exe files that are in the game directory.

If that isn't the solution, then it is probably a driver issue. You can try installing the 12.7 beta drivers. Install them over the stock drivers and make sure that you go to the custom install and ONLY install the display driver.

You have to go to a computer store and look. If there aren't any laptops with a matte screen (most "popular" laptops are glossy), you can go look at the PC monitors. Some PC monitors are matte.

 

Finally playing around with OCing. This is as far as I want to push it at this point.

975/1500 clocks

AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P6516 3DMarks

Edit: Adds about 4c to my Furmark temps. Maxed out at 89c.

 

How is they keyboard? I've read conflicting opinions on the keyboard, but a lot of people say that you have to click hard on they keys. I'm coming from a MacBook chicklet-style keyboard, so do you think the steelseries keyboard would be worth the extra money? I really love chicklet keyboards, but I am fine with normal ones. I'm going to be writing papers and stuff, so I absolutely can't stand to have a keyboard that doesn't register keys properly.

 

I decided to return my P150EM and re-order the system with a gtx 680m, not going to wait around for AMD/Clevo to try to figure out the Enduro mess. I've tried 12.6 and the new beta 12.7 drivers (who knows if 12.7 will even address the Enduro issues) and am sure I've set all the .exe files for games to high performance + plugged in. I still get 20-32 fps in F1 2011 when only running at 1600 x 900. Yet I get normal scores in 3dmark11 and my temps are always fine. SC2 is lower than it should be but still playable. The games I play do appear to run without a hitch with the Clevo + 680m from the early info that is out there. I know new tech always has issues, but I give up on AMD.

 

did the same thing always had bad driver experiences with amd since owning a g73 with 5870m. never going back to amd i dont care how cheap it is.

 

You can always look at your television, most televisions are matte screens (because they're big and people like to place them with windows behind them)

Else, go matte, there's no reason to get glossy other than the manufacturer put a glossy screen on it. And you know what's more fail? My roommate's HP Envy 15 has a "glossy" screen, but it's only because HP put a stupid plastic cover over the screen and the LCD itself is actually MATTE. So he's getting BOTH the negatives of a Matte screen (potentially less clear colors... Not a big issue unless you're a screen Nazi) and of a glossy screen (reflection of EVERY SINGLE LIGHT SOURCE behind you).

 

idk, people are reporting problems with the SS chiclet keyboard registering keys as well.

it really just depends on how lucky you get. it seems that the problems are not all uniform and are on random keys, so... I've adjusted from a macbook keyboard as I notice I'm beginning to press harder on the keys and stuff, but touch typing is difficult.

 

people are choosing matte because they don't like reflections. this means you can use your laptop in any position. that's the huge advantage of a matte screen, but there are also disadvantages. they tend to look bumpy, small text looks blurry, and the display has less contrast and viewing angle than a glossy. i personally use glossy because reflections don't bother me enough to make me sacrifice the contrast and viewing angle. i'm also able to adjust my blinds so that's never a problem. glossy>matte if you don't have reflections.

 

that sucks man
all my games play great for me but i dont have sc2 so cant test

 

Yeah my SC2 runs 30 frames lower than it should, but NBC tested it on the into of "for the swarm" challenge mission.


better go bench that now.

Hmm... still lower. i got 72 fps average.

 

I am not really bothered about reflections, I just want the best/nicest looking screen as is possible and don't want to buy something which looks inferior to what I have.

All the stores I have been to have glossy.

 

its personal preference and where you will be using it

can u provide info on this?

 

Hey do you think you can explain to me what all of this means? I know what OC is, but not how to judge the "score." Is there a big difference? And at that amount of OC will the AMD burn out faster or something like that? I'd appreciate it if you helped out a noob haha

 

Hey guys, I am sitting here idle with my laptop on battery, and the power goes down pretty much the same rate as if I were doing something on it, even with all battery conservation settings on. The GPU fan is constantly on and heat comes out even though its idle (not a lot of heat but enough indicating it is sucking power)

Why the hell doesn't the 7970 just go into standby while the Intel 4000 is being used? I've set the 4000 to be forced on if running on battery. Isn't the 7970M supposed to have power conservation capabilities?

 

If 90% of the time it will be used indoors with the lights off or dimmed, then go for glossy. If you're going to be using the laptop to college inside the classrooms I recommend matte.

 

I just used the webcam for around an hour or so. The top of the screen gets noticeably hot (where the webcam is). Anyone else have this problem?

 

To the general knowledge - after 5 minutes of msi kombustor-
CPU is 78-80c
GPU is 66-67c
This is stock past and clocks.
I believe it's good.

Sent from my Optimus 2X using Tapatalk 2

 

Stock clocks are 850/1200, my stock 3DMark11 score is around P5850. So approximately a 14% OC resulted in an 11% increase in this benchmark. Hopefully that would translate into a 10-15% increase in framerates while gaming.

Heat is the problem with overclocking and thus far the 7970 runs hotter in the Clevo EM series than it does in the HM series or AW machines. 85c is within the target TPD of the card but I'd like it to run a little cooler. Hopefully new drivers and Enduro maturity will help with temps.

 

Wow lucky, I get 40 on low.

 

Now, I'd actually prefer to go the opposite way of OC'ing. Is there any undervolting method available for the P150EM yet?

 

What is the best official driver to use with the 7970 right now and where to download?

 

I'd say the 12.6 package directly from Clevo is the best. The 12.7 from AMD is a giant poo-piled circus.

CLEVO - Download

 

The 7970M driver in the Clevo downloads is 12.4 not 12.6??

 

You do? Those numbers seem backwards to me, CPU is way too hot and GPU is way too cool.

Undervolting is the opposite of overvolting, not OC'ing. Totally different things. If what you mean is underclocking, this happens automatically. Undervolting can be dangerous to your system and doesn't really do anything useful. Not recommended.

 

Overclocking and overvolting usually go hand in hand... I chose the wrong word.

As for your viewpoint on undervolting.. I think you're misinformed. The worst you can do undervolting is crash if you don't go crazy low. Undervolting can significantly reduce heat and lengthen battery life depending on how lucky you got with your copy of the CPU batch. My previous laptop's T9900 cpu was able to undervolt from 1.215 to 1 volt and was perfectly stable in all apps and loads. Ah, that was a good copy. It lost ~6C max temp and heated up noticeably slower.

 

I'll give a more detailed explanation than I did in my PM (which you can probably ignore now if you didnt read it already). Start up sc2 then close it. Go to switchable graphics and there should be 2 exe's for starcraft. set them both to high perfornace (dunno which one is the launcher and which one is the client), then it should work.

Either way, 40 fps on low is low for HD 4000.

And this whole time I though Clevo's drivers were 12.5

screw AMD Drivers