*** Official Clevo P150EM / Sager NP9150 Owner's Lounge ***

woot 7/11 shipped well according to ups was shipped out on 7/10 =P

 

What was your order date drgnblues1?

 

When everyone reinstalled Windows fresh and started installing drivers from the disc the machine came with, how long did it take to install them all? Ive been trying to install the Intel Chipset software for 20 minutes now. Its been sitting on:

Installing Driver: 3rd Gen Core processor DRAM Controller - 0154

...for almost the entire 20 minutes. The dots that fill up from left to right are still moving but nothing else is happening. Should I let it sit longer or force close it and try again??

 

Nice, when did you order? I updated my order from the 7970M to the 680M, so hoping that maybe I'll get it a little sooner! I'm currently in phase 2, so hopefully manufacturing goes smoothly and quickly. Can't wait to get it!

 

Ordered from xotic pc 6/20

 

You might get the 680m faster because most people dont want to dish out the extra 300 for the 680m so the 7970m is backordered by replacements and backorders and preorders. 680m will be the much better choice to avoid headaches and such considering theres so many issues with the amd

 

So I got the Eurocom representative to price match me, but he first wants me to make the order. He said that he would then change the price manually. Is this normal? I mean, I have to fill out my credit card info and basically make the payment...
And he didn't say by how much he is willing to beat the other price. Matching it exactly would be kind of pointless from my point of view.

So is this normal practice? Do I have to order with the standard price, fill out all my billing information and hope he keeps his word? I would rather know exactly what price he's giving me and find this a little strange...

 

Ordered on 6/29 and got my shipping notice today also my configuration included the 7970m so maybe I got lucky amidst the backup of people with problems?

Now to prepare to receive the laptop waiting on my samsung ssd to come in the mail also...

 

I hope so! I sacrificed some other stuff ( downgraded RAM, didn't get an SSD, etc ) to afford the 680M, both to avoid all the 7970M problems and the longer wait. Lol I'll upgrade my RAM and get an SSD after I've saved up more money.

 

Seeing that you picked the 95% gamut screen, are you going to do any sort of color sensitive work? Because this thread says high gamut screens are bad for gamers, but then again, you did say you're not a hardcore gamer yourself. I just thought I'd point that out to you in case you're looking on saving on that screen upgrade.

 

Yep agree with awakeN. I chose the Glossy screen cause it's better for movies and gaming (IMO). I think Matte is great too especially if you're going to use it for extended periods doing email, spreadsheets etc.

Love the glossy screen though.

95% gamut options are only if you are a photography photoshop editor designer drawer specialist IMO.

Just a normal nerd enthusiast laptop user with gaming tendencies...save a bit and choose between Matte and Gloss...in my opinion.

 

Well, received my machine today and unfortunately after playing with it for a few hours im back to formatting and reinstalling windows again. Ive encountered 4 BSoD.

I had everything set up, drivers installed from the disc, etc...

The first occurred in the middle of windows updates, ntfs.sys error. Who knows how screwed up the machine was from that since it was in the middle of installing all the updates.

I received another stop error in the middle of trying to reinstall the next set of updates.

3rd BSoD was atikmpag.sys, which from what Ive found is related to the graphics driver. This one occured when I was streaming my first youtube video in google chrome. After the machine came back up, it looks like it reverted to a time before chrome was installed because it was no longer there.

The 4th was another stop error and it occured randomly. I had just launched the web and started to make my way here to see if I could find anyone thats had issues with ntfs.sys or the atikmpag.sys errors.

So, hopefully a reformat and reinstallation of everything and ill be fine. The only alterations ive made to the machine since I received it was installing a SSD as the primary drive and switching out the memory. Very aggravating. Its kind of reminding me of my M11X R2 I received when it first launched; until some new drivers and a BIOS update came out I had a lot of BSoD on it as well.

 

Wow lucky you. I ordered on 7/8 and still in phase 1, but optimistic that tomorrow will bring phase 2 around

For anyone who has the 675M, what types of average temps are you seeing with the stock thermal paste? I'm most likely going to apply my own shortly after I receive Little Hansel, but just want to know the norm.

EDIT: Gares that truly sucks, hope it works out.

 

Well, an update. Reformatted and reinstalled Windows. Installed the drivers from the disc and started making my way through windows updates. This time i was doing it in batches of 10 at a time rather all at once.

You guessed it, BSoD again. Stop error: 0x0000001e

After this I rebooted and now when I try to get into Windows Im getting STOP: c000021a (Fatal System Error)

Lovely. Any ideas? Whats interesting is these were all security updates. No updates to drivers, optional updates, software updates, etc.

Also, is it ok to disable WinSAT.exe??? Ever since I installed the AMD drivers that keeps popping up everytime I boot into windows.

 

As a matter of fact my laptop randomly restarted over the night last night and when I opened it up this morning there was a message in the corner saying windows had been activated. Strange, but welcome (even though I had like 30 programs running...). Now I actually have a desktop background again!

Technically you can but it'll be slooooooooow, you'd be better off just buying a single 512GGB SSD.

If you do anything with CUDA then 680m will help.


Was NBR down last night for anyone else?

 

No, not 20-60, 20-30 on battery and 30-60 on AC power. And, thats just naming the peak extremes during different situations of each mode, not randomly all the time. FPS stays the same if I just sit there or if tons of extra activity isn't all the sudden filling the screen. Y'know... just straightforward load vs. throughput capability of the hardware. More demanding scenes reduces FPS when its happening, and when its over, it levels off. Although now I am a bit curious, I'll watch real close to see if it briefly spikes super low during a normal scene.

I downloaded all the newest driver versions from Clevo onto a USB thumb drive from my PC, and installed them 1 at a time with a reboot in between each driver install. Do the chipset first, then the VGA, then whatever else after. Just be sure to reboot after each update. Its tedious, but it really does eliminate all guesswork. Plus, I tried installing multiple drivers the first time and regretted it; I had to nuke my install and redo it all as well since it caused a lot of issues. Also, try running a game or benchmark before windows update and see what happens then. I just dumped BF3 straight onto my external and transferred it over, and and ran it to try it out. Worked great. Tribes I downloaded, but that also worked great too.

I used to live on games longer than I encountered real life, and the %95 matte has the best color and depth I've ever seen in any laptop, and its close even to my IPS screen (at least in the beauty of the color depth, NOT the viewing angle) Also, its got a very quick refresh rate and doesn't make me dizzy or anything. I used to be a twitch type gamer so I'm pretty sensitive to refresh rates. A+ monitor especially since I game and edit photos now

Its been very slow the last 2 days. I would assume yes since its been coughing and wheezing the entire time. Its speedy now though.

 

You can disable it using task scheduler

1. Go to Task Scheduler.
2. Browse to Microsoft\Windows\Maintenance.
3. Disable the task named "WinSAT".

Not sure if you can even get that far, but if you can then yeah try disabling it.

Have you tried repairing from the install disc? Assuming you are using the disc that came with the notebook, it may be able to help.

This link might also help you out.

Blue Screen error message Stop: c000021a {Fatal System - Microsoft Answers

 

*Looks at laptop specs to see what GPU he has*
Yep, I guessed it. AMD 7970m... why is that not surprising to me at all?

We should have two different P150EM Owner's thread, one should be AMD 7970m where all the problems and crashing is discussed, and a GTX 680m one.

 

You're always pleasant to have in the owner's lounge, Bobby Buzzkill. Pretty sure karma's gonna deal you a bad 680m too.

 

Little Question to you guys !
Which video card manage the DVI port at the back of the laptop ? The Intel or the 7970m ?
I plugged it on my 46" LCD TV and I tried to play some games and I get bad FPS.
All the game are set at high performance in CCC.
I guest that the Intel manage it, can I change this ?

 

What....you've never seen Thurman Merman?

Ya wanna sandwich with your serving of STFU?

 

My feelings exactly. If you are not going to contribute to this thread, go to a website with AMD fanboys and argue with them. Nobody cares about your opinion or your experiences with the 7970.



Well, at least nobody here cares...perhaps your mother does?!

 

What do you mean nobody cares in here? people post their crashing problems from the 7970m ALL THE TIME. I'm just saying this isn't the post your AMD 7970m problems thread. Its the NP9150/P150EM owners thread. <3

 

QFT.

Anyway, received my NP9150 today. So far no issues. Even came with the case and Tribes Ascend code when it wasn't advertised at all by LPC-Digital. Haven't put the 7970m through its paces yet, but I will soon.

 

You don't even know if those crashes are caused by the GPU. Instead of complaining and going around with a "told you so" attitude, you could actually try to help him. And by the way, you're in no position to be poking fun at other people's avatars.

Please list games and FPS, that's not specific enough given the touchy drivers for the 7970m. All display signals go through the HD4000, so if you're playing a game on the 7970m then it renders each frame and sends it to the HD4000 which displays it. Go look up Muxless Video Switching if you still don't understand.


Hey, one thing you guys switching to the 680m should know: just because the temps will be lower and the switching more automatic and the drivers stabler doesn't make the fans an smarter. That's Clevo's fault, not AMD's. I ran a program for maybe 1 minute about 6 hours ago today that lightly used the 675m, but still caused it to turn on, and my GPU fan is still spinning its fool head off, even though it's got cold air coming through.

How many other people are there out there with sticky keys? If it's not a widespread issue I might want to try to get a replacement keyboard because this is really annoying. I can make a few posts without triple checking them if anyone wants to see how bad this is. And to clarify the issue developed gradually, one key at a time, all was perfect when it arrived, so it's not negligence on Mythlogic's testing part. I guess I can only be thankful that out of all my passwords, only one happens to use a broken key.

 

I care.

Considering I have seen quite a few people complain about their ATI cards, but MAYBE 1 person complain about problems with the 680m, I think I made the right choice.

I gave up on ATI cards before they got purchased by AMD, but that was primarily because of problems with their Linux drivers. I don't begrudge anyone who likes AMD, but I'm done with them personally, and I generally don't recommend them to anyone.

 

As far as I understand it, both of the cards use it. The primary card in the Intel one by default, but whenever the dedicated card turns on, the Intel card sort of allows the dedicated card to "pass-thru". That's a very horrible non technical description, but I think it's close conceptually.

Basically, it all happens in the background, so you don't need to worry about anything. Just make sure the dedicated card is setup to run your game.

 

Hey all! When I tried installing the clevo drivers for the 7970 off the disc I got a BSOD. Tried again and the same thing happened. Any solution to this? Or is there a link to the drivers so I can just download off the Internet? Thanks!

 

Two years ago I bought then got a refund for an X8100 18" laptop. It was BSODing me to death for ages. I sent it back three times, and they first replaced the RAM, then they replaced the 285M SLI cards, then eventually I got a refund... Very stressful experience. They could never replicate the experience, but I showed them evidence. I would say you should abort the operation, refund it NOW, take a chill pill for a while then get another.

Actually yes, Sony Vegas uses CUDA I think. In any case I upgraded to 680M, thanks. They almost immediately assembled it, but then they said their Nocti mSATA cards AND the Bigfoot Killer card are out of stock. **Looks at watch** ....ah well.

EDIT: Yes I got very frustrated with "Page not found" 404s yesterday.

 

thats because most people that ordered their 680m havent gotten their hands on them yet >.> 7970m was released 2months b4 680m fyi

 

Does anyone know where I can get SMAA, FXAA or MLAA please?

Hi,
I cant get this to work on the Clevo drivers. Which version if Afterburner and Clevo drivers are you using?

 

I ran 3dMark 11 yesterday and the score was 5772. What surprised me was that the combined score was only 4600~ and the pysics score was 8002 :O

thats unusual right? i have been seeing combined scores of ~5300 and pysics of only 7200~ stock clocks of course

somethings not right here...

 

Ok, I reinstalled Win7 and decided to give this a shot. I seem to keep having issues with the Intel Chipset drivers. If I run the installer from disc, it doesnt want to finish installing. I have to navigate to the setup file manually and run it. Then when the machine goes to reboot, it gets stuck at "logging off."

So this time I tried to use the installer from the clevo site. Same deal, stuck at logging off. I let it sit there for a good 20 minutes and finally did a hard shut down. The machine came back up fine and seemed to be ok. So I went to the AMD drivers from the clevo site. They installed, I rebooted, then bam: dxgmms1.sys BSoD.

This is incredibly frustrating. I cant even get anything consistent. It seems like everytime I encounter a BSoD its some different error.

 

did you change the values in the afterburner.cfg file?

 

Yeah I have to say, I was pretty surprised I got into phase 2 so quickly! I just mailed out my check to Xotic today so I can get the cash discount. I cannot wait to finally get it!

Did you get transfered to phase 2 yet? Hopefully it's not too much longer

 

I performed another clean install. This time I was able to get the chipset drivers installed without an issue. The key was not letting the software reboot after the install and trying it on my own.

I started making my way through one driver at a time, rebooting in between. I made it all the way to the USB drivers and started getting errors when I would reboot. Things like windows explorer has stopped working, etc. Finally after the audio driver installed I received my first BSoD. It was a USBBUGCODE error. So I uninstalled and reinstalled the USB drivers and rebooted. Another BSoD, Pagefault error.

Im to the point where I dont even think Im going to RMA the machine but just return it. At first this seemed like a repeat of the issues I had with my old alienware, but this is significantly worse.

 

ouch that's some bad luck you have there :/ it's funny because i didn't have ANY issues whatsoever. I only had a single BSOD after opening skyrim over a month ago, but since that, I haven't had any BSODs.

 

Yea, I was wondering if it was the memory that was causing some of the issues like the pagefault.. I ran windows memory diagnostics and memtest - both came out fine.

Interestingly enough, after the pagefault error, Ive been moving along without any additional errors. The rest of the drivers are installed, and im making my way through windows updates in small batches, 10 updates at a time.

If I continue to have issues beyond this ill likely just contact xotic and request a refund. If after 4-5 clean installs the machine still refuses to work right, its not worth the effort or the time in my opinion.

 

Same here. I had to reformat after a bad driver upgrade attempt several weeks ago but smooth sailing since then with factory drivers. I did BSOD once while seeing how far I could push an OC.

 

Even though the tests for memory came back ok, could it be because im running 1866 memory? I saw a few other people on here that seemed to be using the Kingston PnP memory just fine.

Maybe its just the motherboard thats bad, who knows.

 

Have you tried using chkdsk? It doesn't seem to be a drive problem, but it may yield some information that could be useful if there are some corrupt files.

If you do another fresh install, I would completely zero the data on your hard drive to ensure its extra clean for the OS. Zeroing can take a while though so plan ahead

IMHO it seems you just got a lemon though :/

 

I did run check disk twice, and sfc scan a couple of times.

I just removed my 8GB kingston memory and put 4gb of 1066 memory in that i had laying around. Will see if I continue to have issues now.

Out of curiousity, can the two slots on the bottom of the machine be used for primary memory and the two under the keyboard left empty? If I still have issues that would give me something else to test I suppose.

Just makes me wonder how much stress testing Sager actually does when they build these things. Makes me wonder if they just put it together, make sure it will boot into windows and then they call it a day.

 

I don't see why not. If its a bad RAM slot that might be causing issues so I'd say try it.

 

When i was placing my order from XoticPC, I noticed they didn't offer the 1866mhz RAM anymore. I know that they had previously, so i asked about it, and was told that it was found to make unstable configurations.

 

Sorted now... didn't have the Direct X drivers installed!

 

I just noticed that the backlit keyboard at full brightness consumes 5-6W!!!

 

I thought 1600 MHz was the max speed for RAM, so that could be causing some issues. I believe 1600 MHz is either the mobo limit or the IB CPU.

 

Yes literally just sent the payment a few minutes ago! They should receive it by 7/18.

 

Awesome! Hopefully since we didnt order the 7970M, we won't have to wait as long, since there's more of a demand for those (due both to the lower price and RMAs).