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I am thinking of ordering a NP1950 today... hoping I don't have heat issues. I guess I will find out. Thanks for all the valuable information.

 

I was planing on getting the 95% gamut screen without calibration. I would mostly be gaming, and although I do some art work it is by no means professional. So would calibration be necessary? Does it really make that much of a difference in how vivid the screen looks?

 

I wouldn't trust my soldering work, lol. For low voltage stuff, no problem, but for a 19V 10A circuit? Meh, I might smell something burning sooner than later, lol. Although that is a good idea if you can't get the right tip.

 

Again, I haven't had any hands-on experience, but this picture may help:

http://www.xoticpc.com/customization/monitor_calibration_side_by_side.jpg

Note that the picture is demonstrating the difference on a 72% gamut screen, and they say the difference can be much greater on a 95% gamut screen.

For the originating page, use this link:

New XOTIC PC Monitor Calibration | XoticPC Blog

 

Aww, poor, small Clevo who have to devote all of their resources to work on a passable driver... Is that why their bios are so bad? Or their HM support? Because they've had lots of time to work on these things and enough money to do it. They're just being lazy slackers.

+rep. It's either 60%, 66%, or 72%. There's some discrepancy about what it is and it may have changed a few months ago.

As long as you keep your GPU off it should be fine. For that matter if you keep it off the P151EM one should be fine.

An uncalibrated stock screen will look better than an uncalibrated 95% screen so that would be a colossal waste of money. It has nothing to do with how vivid he screen looks, it has to do with how accurate the colors are.

 

Yes, I did mean to quote you, I am not sure how I messed that up, heh. I guess I did read that comment out of context, oops.

One correction, NTSC color gamut doesn't really have anything to do with how much the eye can see, it is just a defined range of colors (color space). There are several of them

Eh, that's purely a matter of opinion. Anyways, a color calibrator can be had for pretty cheap actually. You can get the Spyder 4 Express for $99.

 

Hey, so, I'm pretty new to the whole SSD scene. If I were to buy a 64gb SSD, would I be able to install just windows on that, and keep all my other data on the hard drive?

Also, what all would I need to replace my optical drive with a hard drive? (since I hear that the SSD goes in the current HDD spot, and the HDD needs to be moved to the optical spot.) What kind of brackets or whatever do I need?

Thanks

 

Yes you can install windows onto one hard drive and have your data on a second. Just select the SSD when you go to install windows

Something like this, there are plenty around the web for cheap. Just need 9.5mm and sATA connections.

SATA 2nd HDD HD Hard Driver Caddy for 9.5mm Universal CD / DVD-ROM Optical Bay | eBay

More expensive option:

2nd HDD or SSD Caddy, Clevo B5130M, W150HN, P150HM, W251HP [OBHD-SATA12-SATA-BU] - $44.75 : NewmodeUS, Hard Drive Caddys for Notebooks

 

Actually, it DOES have to do with the range of the human eye. You are correct that there are several scales, the most common being RGB, Adobe-RGB, and NTSC, but the wikipedia article you point to is referring to NTSC as signal standards for colors set for television at various points in television's evolution. A more in-context explanation can be found here: LCD Monitors and Color Gamuts

You have three options that I know of. You can:

A) Buy the optical bay hard disk caddy (from your reseller, or possibly elsewhere?), put your standard HDD in that, and install the SSD as your primary drive. Yes, 64GB should be able to hold windows, and even a few applications, from what I understand. The downside to this is that you'll lose your optical drive unless you buy a special type of external enclosure for it.

B) Buy a (much more common) external hard disk enclosure for your HDD, and install your SSD as your primary drive. This would allow you to keep your optical drive, but your main storage HDD would be connected via either USB or eSATA.

C) Buy an mSATA SSD drive instead of a standard SSD. This would be my recommendation as it would allow you to keep both your HDD and optical drive right where they are, and you could still use the mSATA SSD for your operating system that way. Some people say that mSATA isn't as good because it only has SATA-II throughput speeds, instead of the SATA-III which has twice as fast maximum throughput (6Gb/s as opposed to 3), HOWEVER... IOPS are actually much more important for an operating system than maximum sustained throughput, and many mSATA drives have fully competitive IOPS. In fact, my mSATA drive can perform 36,000 more write operations per second than my SATA-III SSD drive, and only 10,000 less read operations.

 

You know, that's interesting as I have a lot of history with the broadcast industry and its never before been mentioned to me that NTSC gamut was modeled after the human eye. It was always just NTSC gamut is this spec, and sRGB is that spec, etc.

 

The only thing worse than waiting for this thing to ship is when it's been "out for delivery" for 12.5 hours and counting...

 

Congrats. And I know the wait is killer!

 

In case anyone was wondering: Yes, staring out the window like a sad puppy dog DOES work.

 

I'm sitting in Phase 2 checking Xotic PCs site each hour to see if I've moved on. Hopefully tomorrow....

 

You're of course welcome to do that, but when you do move on we'll also send an email directly to you.

 

Mine shows up at the fedex location near my work tomorrow; going to grab it after work at 5PM and head home to toy around untill 10PM haha

 

YAY! I'm excited for you! I really felt for you when you got that lemon
Best of luck man! Enlighten us with your brilliant experience this time.

 

Alright, let the noob questions begin

First: Where is the program to configure the backlight on the keyboard? I cannot seem to find it...

 

There will be many more noob questions when I get my behemoth tomorrow! Fret not.

 

Fn + / (on the numpad)

 

click the laptop icon on where the running applications box on the lower right side of the screen.

 

I have no idea how true it is, but I've heard that many fullscreen games bypass the OS color calibration.

Just something to think about.

 

So when is Sager going to fix the keyboard ghosting and the missed keystrokes issue? I mean people are paying over $1400 for this and this is for hardcore gaming, which means there are certains 2-3 keys that should be pressed simultaenously and if it is not registering then what's the point?

Should we just deal with it and move on and live with the glitch/error?

I mean i know the steel series upgrade keyboard says it'll fix the problem so we are all forced to pay 80-90 for the upgrade just to fix Sagers ghosting keyboard faults?

So what is going on here? Someone clear this up for me

 

Where did you hear this? I paid for the upgrade but from everything I've heard, the SteelSeries keyboard has the same ghosting issues, and (again, this is not first hand knowledge) it's a hardware issue with the motherboard connection or something like that. I truly do hope that it DOES get fixed for all of you, though it really won't affect me either way. I don't have a desk in my big rig, so using a real mouse isn't a viable option, and touchpads suck for games, so unless I'm playing something like starcraft, I'll generally be using an Xbox 360 controller.

Also, in response to the monitor calibration being overrided by fullscreen games, I hadn't heard that. Ah well... When it works, it works. It should be nice for movies and whatnot. Plus, much of the time when playing games, i'll be using a Sony HMZ-T1 anyway. :-D

 

Talking about a high level of confidence haha oh well I feel the same

 

Hello

if you have any performance issue with 7970m for example in games . (Enduro problem or problems )

please email amd support.
TECH SUPPORT OF AMD Say's :

"What drivers did you installed? You need to install the laptop drivers from the manufacturer of the laptop.

Can you expand on your FPS performance inssue? Whats the game you are playing in? What are the settings you are using? ( AA, High, ultra - high?, What game, any other particular in-game setting feature?"

please email AMD .

i haven't this laptop please email to solve Enduro problem or problems (if that's serious )

Thank you

 

IS 15.6” FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Matte Type Screen (SKU - S1R316) GOOD ? (without Professional Monitor Color Calibration )

have any body this display ?

Thank you

 

Hi guys,

Wats your latest certified GTX675m driver version?
Mines 295.62. Nvdia has a v304 beta driver but i'm afraid installing it will make the system unstable.

cheers!

Yup its real good

 

okay question guys my university screwed me over when i went to buy a copy of windows 7 they gave me the upgrade disc instead of the real thing so now i am running on a 30 trial version of windows 7, I need some help on what to do ive tried putting in the upgrade key but of course that doesnt work, will i need to buy a new full version? all i need is a new product key i have the ultimate disc so could i get a home premium key and use that or i dont really know what to do, is there any way i can use the one i have? thanks in advance guys!

 

The "On Vehicle for Delivery Today" notification on UPS' tracking website is seriously teasing and torturing me at the same time....

 

Reading responses to my earlier post. it seems like I made a bad decision imaging the install of Windows from my HDD to my SSD. Is there a way to get Windows to optimize for an SSD without losing all my data? I seem to recall there was a way to reinstall windows without formatting the drive. Would that work?

 

Lol an why you're afraid of that?
Have you read of people with 675m that had problems with latest beta?
So far I've been reading people that are happy with this driver, your card is a 580m renamed, and so far 580m (even sli users) are happy with it.
You can always revert back to your current drivers if you feel something is not working as it should.

 

Do you have a version of XP or Vista you can use for the upgrade? Can you take that copy back ?

 

Not sure if it makes a difference but I ordered a 12.7mm caddy instead of 9.5mm since the optical drive said that measurement on the XoticPC specs and fits perfectly! One question I do have though is there a way to take off the cover from the original optical drive? The caddy came with a flat cover so now I have an indent on my laptop where my second hard drive is.

edit: Just looked at the second link and it seemed to show a way to get the faceplate off so I'll be trying to later!

 

maybe buy a windows vista?

 

Is the surrounding bezel/frame on the screen a glossy finish even when the screen itself is matte?

 

yup, but it doesn't look bad

 

I don't think Windows is designed to cope with big changes to hardware, but I'm not an expert.

Ages ago I helped my mum copy over the image of windows XP to a larger IDE HDD and it worked no problem. But earlier this year I copied a windows 7 image from an HDD to a new SSD and it just didn't work. I know the copy was successful because it showed up when plugged into an external connection.

So copying a drive image either completely works, or not at all. If I were you, just fresh install. Don't try to be clever. Bear in mind that any external SATA enclosure should be able to help you connect a 2.5" SATA drive to your laptop externally. That way you should be able to copy things over.

 

It is entirely possible to move an install around, but there are a lot of gotcha's and whatnot. Disk controller drivers, boot sectors, mbr, etc, all need to be taken into account.

I would highly suggest a fresh install

 

You are in luck! I have exactly the answer you are looking for!

In a rare stroke of foresight and concern for customer satisfaction, Microsoft includes (and always has included) a very simple solution for those who buy an update for their operating system and find themselves in a predicament like yourself. It's actually designed for those who, say, received Windows 95 (but no disk) with their computer, and bought an upgrade to Windows 98, but then, say, their hard drive goes kaput. What to do?!? Simple:

Install from the upgrade. Then upgrade itself. In other words, now that you have Windows 7 installed from the upgrade, run the install again. *IF* for some reason that doesn't work, you may have to reformat and install from the upgrade without using your activation key first. I don't think that should be the case, though.

Thank you, Microsoft, for doing the right thing for once.

 

Has anyone had issues with their wireless connection on this machine? I have been unable to connect to the internet for quite a while now...I have the Intel Advanced-N, or something like that. Using my old computer now to google solutions :/

 

What imaging software were you using?

I don't believe there is a way to reinstall the OS without losing your data. You may just want to try backing up and re-installing.

 

okay would this wipe everything from my computer if i did this? because having a slow internet connection service pack installations are quite lenghthy thank you so much though!

 

So I received my laptop today! I was installing the drivers and when installing the AMD Drivers I am getting a BSOD and when I start the computer back up the screen is black and a window is doing some CPU Assessments. Can anybody tell what's going on? And any way around this? Can I just go online and install newer drivers or something?

 

Is there any way you can post some pics of the issue with the CPU assessments?

In what order did you install the drivers?

To me it seems unusual that it would just BSOD and do such a thing from just installing the drivers. Possible premature hardware failure?

 

Double check the antenna wires are attached. Even if it looks like they are remove them and then reattach them. That seems to fix 90% of the connection issues I've had in the past.

 

I actually just did the custom install instead of the Express on and at the "Component Selection" part I checked and all of the following were said to be "Installed and up to date":

PX Profile Update
AMD Catalyst Installer
AMD APP SDK Runtime
AMD Display Driver
AMD Accelerated Video
Intel Media Components
Catalyst Control Center

So those are pretty much updated. However one "component" called "Enable Aero" said it's NOT INSTALLED and I then unchecked all of the above that were already updated and ONLY had "Enable Aero" component checked (apart from the ones that could not be unchecked) and then the install was successful without a BSOD.

I'm not sure why when I was doing the express install of the drivers the BSOD kept coming up...weird. Is there any way I can make sure that the 7970 is functioning properly?

 

Make sure you installed the WLAN driver from option drivers on the driver cd you received.

 

Make sure you dont have RAM faster than 1666. Some have had real problems above that speed.

And, install the chipset drivers first, USB3, VGA, then whatever. The chipset and USB have had intermittent problems amongst different users so I'd install those first and make sure the computer is stable with them. Also, restart for each install and create system restore points. It can make things a lot less time consuming.

 

Try running MSI Kombuster, as some here have mentioned. It should be a decent indication if your discreet GPU is working as intended. MSI Kombustor 2.3.0 Released (Download) - 3D Tech News and Pixel Hacking - Geeks3D.com