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    *** Official Clevo P157SM-P150SM / Sager NP8250 Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by HTWingNut, Jun 1, 2013.

  1. D.Dastardly

    D.Dastardly Notebook Geek

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    The screenshot with the artefacts you are experiencing are pure IGP/GPU core related. Memory artefacts tend to have other symptoms.

    You can try raise +20mV on Graphics offset. Experiment with this settings.

    Any temperatures logs?

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    My question was answered.

    The subvendor ID changes for the same card depending on platform used. (Clevo/Dell)
     
    Last edited: Feb 6, 2016
  2. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Ah you did not say you were trying the dell 2GB 680M, that card can be picky.
     
  3. D.Dastardly

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    Yeah, getting strange sensor readings, games are running nice tho`. Almost Ultra in some games like Alien Isolation, this cant be the Intel IGP doing it's work.

    Flashed with the latest BIOS, no change. I've had Dell cards in the past on the SM-A, but none like this.
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    The vendor ID just looks at the first part of the string that is generated by the system bios by the way so in a clevo machine it will say clevo no matter what card you put in.
     
  5. D.Dastardly

    D.Dastardly Notebook Geek

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    Yep, found an older post explaining this. Will try some new cards next week.

    Will a Dell 4GB 980m card work without any hiccups? Got a few.
     
  6. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    If you have a few it's worth a try and with those you can try flashing a different brand of Vbios.
     
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    How would you go about increasing the voltage? I'm on the stock bios, I don't remember seeing any options in there to adjust the CPU voltages.

    Incidentally, I chanced upon the Intel Processor Diagnostic Text software and ran it on my laptop. All tests passed successfully, which makes it all the more strange. If the artifacts is IGP related, it shouldn't have passed the test.
     
  8. D.Dastardly

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    This happens only after long gaming sessions or even when the laptop is dead cold?
     
  9. endlesstrail

    endlesstrail Notebook Enthusiast

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    I get the artifacts upon cold boot up. :(
     
  10. D.Dastardly

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    Install XTU, go to Graphics section of the menu. then Voltage Offset and add 20mV-30mV. Do this only for testing and not as a daily runner. Check for symptoms.

    In the meantime, have you tried installing the latest HD drivers?

    Windows 7?
     
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  11. endlesstrail

    endlesstrail Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm pretty sure I have the latest Intel HD drivers. I'll re-verify it again. Will try the XTU when I get off work and report back.

    The laptop came with Windows 8.1 I can possibly obtain a copy of Windows 7 for testing purposes, but it'll probably be a last resort thing...

    Thanks for your assistance.
     
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    endlesstrail Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've updated to the latest driver version, which for win8.1 is 4332.

    Tried XTU, bumping the voltage offset to 30mV with no change or reduction to the graphical artifacts.

    http://imgur.com/R4yfzFu
     
  13. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    You will need to talk to your reseller at this point, it could be either the CPU IGP being dead or motherboard.
     
  14. D.Dastardly

    D.Dastardly Notebook Geek

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    Holy crap. That's a lot of confetti's.

    Last resort will be to disable all the graphical things on Windows and go back to the classical interface. See if changes anything.
     
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  15. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Well anything that disables hardware acceleration of the desktop GUI will reduce the use of the IGP hardware.
     
  16. D.Dastardly

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    Some corruption occurred due to Aero interface in various machines. Better to try it first. Then go for RMA
     
  17. badiyee

    badiyee Notebook Consultant

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    Hi, sorry to trouble everyone again. I have few questions (oh boy, I'm screwed)
    I'm using a Clevo P150SM-A

    1) How do i know if my fingerprint scanner is dead? I tried reinstalling the drivers, but when i go to windows 'set a fingerprint password', it just refuses to recognize any form of input. :/

    2) I'm thinking on a long term overhaul of my P150SM-A, since i am now completely mobile most of the time.

    2a) I'm planning to change my HDD's setup, which is now based on 1x Crucial M550 mSATA, and 2x Hitachi Travelstar HGST 1TB 7200rpm HDD. I'm thinking of going perhaps 2x 1TB SSD (no RAID, 1 for the OS + programs, another just for the games), and the 'normal' HDDs to be replaced by 2TB HDDs. This will cost me around USD1000 in my country, and its gonna be about 2 months or so worth of wages (LOL), so I want to approach this very carefully. That's almost half the price of a P150SM-A.

    2b) As far as as mSATA SSD goes, I heard its going to be replaced by m2 formats, so basically no manufacturers will be building mSATA SSDs? What would be the most optimal SSDs that I can buy? I'm not a speed freak, but reliability and long workloads are must, especially that i'm in a tropical country and the temperatures are blazing hot. The same goes for the HDDs. I'm thinking at the moment for the Samsung 840 EVO or 850 Evo (1TB), but not sure which to pick between the two, since i haven't cross any authoritative in depth comparisons for both of them except a comment from Anandtech that says "negligible, pick either and you're good to go". Any suggestions for alternatives, or advices? I'm willing to listen. I'm not willing to buy Crucial brands due to the fact that for some reason, from my own experience and talking to few other owners in Malaysia, the Crucial M550 mSATAs heat up way too much, and even as in my case, idle is at 70c, which is ridiculous.

    2c) As for the 2TB HDDs, I'm thinking of going Samsung M9Ts, except as of this point i'm not even SURE if there's other models (because Google searches keep pointing to buy 2.5" external HDDs like thosre from Western Digital, Seagate, Samsung, and yank the internals off and put it into the laptop, which i'm quite adverse to due to the amount of work, carefulness [i'm quite a clumsy guy when it comes to delicate things], and not to mention unnecessary voiding the warranty]. I'm looking for options and suggestions. Also, i'm not very sure, but i do know that the P150SM-A's 2nd hdd is based on replacing the DVD-ROM and replacing it with a HDD, but i recall both slots have height restrictions, but i'm not so sure. The Samsung M9Ts have 9.5mm' height, so i'm not even sure if that's fit-able into the P150SM-A.


    Advices and opinions welcomed.


    *add on: I'm thinking of migrating from P150SM-A to P377SM-A, and the offer is around USD1000-1500 (depending on the price of the extra GTX980m). Should I? or should i not? The thunderbolt is thunderbolt 1, so either way no TB3 for future external GPU anyway :/ (unless there's a way to convert one of those MXM3B ports into external GPU port LOL)
     
  18. pilililo2

    pilililo2 Notebook Consultant

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    What I can tell you from my experience is that the best ssds there out on the market are from samsung, I recently bought an 850 Evo and im very happy with it, It performs great and with samsungs RAPID technology it almost reaches speeds of the M.2 ssd types, and yes, theoretically M.2 will soon replace mSATA because M.2 doesnt have the 600MB/s speed cap that Sata3 has. And since ssds can perform way faster than they do on sata3/msata, M.2 ssds are getting way more popular since they can reach about 4GB/s transfer speeds. Anyway mSata ssds will keep existing and growing since they were the standard for ultrabooks these last years and are still way smaller in size than M.2 format.
     
  19. badiyee

    badiyee Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks for the pointers about the SSDs. Much appreciated. I guess adding / replacing the mSATAs to Samsung's are in place (or at least, the direction for me)
     
  20. Support.1@XOTIC PC

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    Shouldn't be an issue to have those fit. The regular 1TB 7200rpm drives are the same size basically.
     
  21. Meaker@Sager

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    9.5mm is the standard height for 2.5" drives, 7mm is the slim variant.
     
  22. badiyee

    badiyee Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks for the confirmation.

    Seems like after searching around, the only way to get 2 units of Samsung Spinpoint M9Ts are to buy Seagate Backup Plus Slim (2TB) external HDDs, yank out the HDD and hope its a Samsung inside. They don't import the 2TB HDDs directly into my country. Which is weird, and sad for me. That's gonna be a lot of job and being careful at yanking out stuffs for me :/
     
  23. badiyee

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    by the way, an odd question from me again.

    1) it seems that the P377SM-A's heatsink (i think slave GPU) shares the same one with P150SM-A's GPU heatsink
    2) how about the P870DM's CPU heatsink? It looks very similar to the P150SM-A's CPU heatsink.

    or am i wrong?
     
  24. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    You could see if international sellers are willing to ship to you;.

    1) Yes it does.
    2) Those CPU heatsinks are quite different in size.
     
  25. endlesstrail

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    Thanks D.Dastardly and Meaker@Sager for your help.

    I've received my laptop from the repairer. The Intel CPU was replaced and everything appears to be working fine right now! :)
     
  26. Meaker@Sager

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    Sounds like the igp itself failed then, i'm glad you have it back and working.
     
  27. jasonlam

    jasonlam Notebook Guru

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    My P157SM-A was purchased back in Jun 2014. And recently (in these two weeks) some of the keys of the keyboard start to not respond at all. The keys are "y" "s" "z" "v" and "b".

    But if I keep pressing it, or hold it for a while, it will come back eventually and respond again.

    Any idea what the cause is? Is the keyboard starting to fail? Or is it too dirty inside? And does the relative humidity have something to do with it? It has been very humid these days. The relative humidity are 90+ percent everyday and throughout the whole day, sometimes its even 100%.

    I have even considered buying a new keyboard from eBay and have it changed myself which is something that I am not very confident with.

    Thoughts?

    Thanks in advance.
     
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  28. Meaker@Sager

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    It's fairly easy to replace in this model, you may want to remove it and inspect the connection and the closer look that removing it will let you.
     
  29. Ponury Typ

    Ponury Typ Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi guys, what is best looking screen that we can put in this baby ? And is there somone that tried to put 2K/4K screen in this baby via eDP ?
     
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  30. Meaker@Sager

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    It's a purely LVDS setup since during the chassis time the only eDP panels back then were for 3D which optimus would not work with.
     
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    I finally managed to remove the whole keyboard. The keyboard, the cables and the connection seem to be okay to me.

    Guess I have to get a new keyboard and replace it.

    Thanks for the help :)
     
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  32. Peter Daley

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    Hi, question from a very confused guy. Opened up my laptop today intending to swap the crucial ssd into my new desktop, but there is no drive in the 2.5 inch slot, or the msata slot under it. I guess that means I have an msata drive somewhere else in the case, but can't for the life of me find it. Where is it?! Thanks
     
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    I believe there is an mSata slot above the battery, there should be a little opening between the battery and the vent on the right side (when you are looking at it opened up). Then the other one is under that drive bay in the middle.
     
  34. Peter Daley

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    It's actually under the optical bay :). Figured out how to read the manual from Sager (needlessly complicated .exe procedure). Thank you for your help though!
     
  35. Peter Daley

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    Oops ya sorry you said that
     
  36. Meaker@Sager

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    Depending on the exact model there can be two msata slots.
     
  37. 1337lutz

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    Anybody else getting blue screens before login when updating to a NVIDIA driver greater than 354?

    I am currently on a P157SM with a 970M. Everytime i try to update (with modded INF) the driver installs, but anything higher than 354 will just crash after boot (before logon) as a SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION.

    Any ideas?

    I already tried a clean install.
     
  38. 1337lutz

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    Just updated to PremaMod vBIOS 2.0 no more blue screens. However it still wont use my 970M, just the intel :(
     
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    Update: As long as i dont install the intel drivers the Nvidia drivers work. However i cant have an external screen. I really have no idea whats going on, im probably going back to windows 8.1.
     
  40. Meaker@Sager

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    Have you tried different versions of the intel driver?
     
  41. 1337lutz

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    Yea, from the first W10 driver to the latest.

    Ive now reverted to Windows 8.1 and it instantly works again.
     
  42. Meaker@Sager

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    Were these clean installs or updates/reverts?
     
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    Thanks for your messages so far, the steps i have done:
    NOTE: All installs were with the modded INF.
    • Windows 10 - latest update
    • DDU in Safe Mode to uninstall Intel + Nvidia
    • Install Latest install
    • Install Latest Nvidia
    • Didnt work.
    • Repeated for KNOWN TO WORK: First W10 Intel 15.40 and NVIDIA 353.62
    • Didnt work.

    • With all of these drivers i also tried to install nvidia first and then Intel.
    • Install nvidia -> restart -> disable nvidia -> install intel -> restart and vice versa.
    When I disabled the intel driver the nvidia card would work, however i cant use an external screen, which is a no go for me.

    All of this was with an existing install AND a fresh install.

    "Resolved" by:
    Reinstall Windows 8.1 -> modded INF for 970M (since my model doesnt support it officially) -> works.
     
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  44. Frula1

    Frula1 Newbie

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    Hi guys, i also have problem installing newer Nvidia driver. I also get BSOD upon installing the driver. Older series driver work normal (358.91), but this new series (364,365) give me BSOD when installing.
    I cleared old drivers with DDU,also have modded inf. I'am on win 8.1 with P150SM 970m upgrade.All previous drivers worked normal,but this new series doesn't work.
    Do you have some suggestions?
    Thanks.
     
  45. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    What BIOS are you using?
     
  46. Frula1

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    Stock Clevo version P15xSM_35_31, and latest Prema vbios for GPU.
     
  47. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    It may be due to the vbios.
     
  48. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    It is indeed the Prema vbios. You have to flash his latest one
     
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    Yes that was it,the vbios.I updated to latest Prema vbios,i didn't ralize that he created new one, i was on v1.1.1.
    Thanks to Meaker and oile.
     
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    Not a problem, Nvidia fiddling with things again ;)
     
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