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Will they even RMA a heatsink? o_o

I thought my temps were high since I got the machine but yeah, the air coming out should be hotter than the air coming out from a cooler GPU...

I'll just wait. I set the TDP to max at 67W for now and that gives me mostly 4GHz unless its being stressed too much which drops to 3.9GHz at that point. Its still really crazy fast and makes me feel better about getting an MX CPU.

 

Full 3DMark...

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880M video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4940MX CPU @ 3.10GHz,Notebook P377SM-A

Minimum multi was x39

Max temp was 89C on one core, 84C on the other three. Figures that second core is still bad.

That's the stock vbios. I don't mess with anything else so graphics is way lower than it should be. It was an average core of 757 through all the tests.

 

lol my choice of words sometimes... too busy RMAing this and that to different vendors recently

I meant contact XoticPC about your observations, and ask if they'd be able to get you a replacement heatsink.

 

I'll just wait for them to get back to me about getting rid of these cards. I've got the CPU set at 4.1GHz and for every day use its just fine. It's all about the TDP. I think nitpicking the CPU when it runs 3.5GHz stock and is now actually doing 4.1 at times with a minimum of 3.9 is pretty damn good to me. I don't do things like Prime on a daily basis after all and its unlikely a new heatsink would be much better.

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It looks like my chip will do 4.2 @ stock volts with a -15mV offset.

PCMark 8 Home - 4638

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CPU Queen 4x Core i7-4940MX HT 4200 MHz Clevo P377SM-A HM87 Ext. Dual DDR3-1600 11-11-11-28 CR2 53391
CPU PhotoWorxx 4x Core i7-4940MX HT 4200 MHz Clevo P377SM-A HM87 Ext. Dual DDR3-1600 11-11-11-28 CR2 14289 MPixel/s
CPU Zlib 4x Core i7-4940MX HT 4200 MHz Clevo P377SM-A HM87 Ext. Dual DDR3-1600 11-11-11-28 CR2 337.8 MB/s
CPU AES 4x Core i7-4940MX HT 4200 MHz Clevo P377SM-A HM87 Ext. Dual DDR3-1600 11-11-11-28 CR2 19003 MB/s
CPU Hash 4x Core i7-4940MX HT 4200 MHz Clevo P377SM-A HM87 Ext. Dual DDR3-1600 11-11-11-28 CR2 4274 MB/s
FPU VP8 4x Core i7-4940MX HT 4200 MHz Clevo P377SM-A HM87 Ext. Dual DDR3-1600 11-11-11-28 CR2 7086
FPU Julia 4x Core i7-4940MX HT 4200 MHz Clevo P377SM-A HM87 Ext. Dual DDR3-1600 11-11-11-28 CR2 33078
FPU Mandel 4x Core i7-4940MX HT 4200 MHz Clevo P377SM-A HM87 Ext. Dual DDR3-1600 11-11-11-28 CR2 16638 (throttled @ 105W)
FPU SinJulia 4x Core i7-4940MX HT 4200 MHz Clevo P377SM-A HM87 Ext. Dual DDR3-1600 11-11-11-28 CR2 5325

Geekbench - Notebook P377SM-A - Geekbench Browser

Single-Core 3907
Multi-Core 14943

Certain tests throttled in GeekBench and I was afraid to raise the TDP past 80W as one of them pushed the CPU to 91C on the hottest core.

I guess the chip really isn't that bad, I could probably do better if I mod my bottom cover for more airflow.

I'm going to set this to 67W for my daily driver. It won't get 4.2GHz under heavy duty apps but most games should benefit from it. Let's see how it goes.

Oh yeah, two A/C adapters is mandatory for this if that wasn't obvious

 

The P377SM-A/Sager NP9377 is a unit that came out just this year, right? So basically this is a new unit.

 

Yes indeed. May was when I got mine and it was pretty fresh off the line.

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Do you,think that 3 years from now, the GPUs can,still be upgraded to the latest?

 

As long as they are MXM. The rumor is that Pascal will not be MXM so if that's the case, no.

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What is the rumor on Pascal? Soldered chips?

 

Different board or could be soldered, nobody knows at this point. It's safe to assume that the full GM204 part will be compatible with the machine, possibly without even a BIOS mod. Definitely with one though.

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Hey guys, I am about to order a 9377-s from Xotic and I need your suggestions on my configuration:

17.3" FHD 16:9 "Matte Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright LED Anti-Glare Screen (1920x1080) (SKU - SSC002)
- FREE! - 30 Day No Dead Pixel Warranty
- Sager - 4th Generation Intel® Haswell Core™ i7-4910MQ (2.9GHz - 3.9GHz, 8MB Intel® Smart Cache) (SKU – SPU402)
- FREE! - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
- SLI (2x) - NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 980M (16.0GB total) GDDR5 PCI-Express DX11 (Maxwell) [User Upgradeable] (SKU – GPU04X)
- No Copper Cooling Upgrade
- 16GB DDR3 1600MHz [2x8GB] Kingston HYPER X (CL9) Dual Channel Memory (SKU - RAMX99)
- RAID-0 Storage - (Stripe) Combines mSATAs for performance. (Requires identical mSATA SSDs)
- 256GB Crucial M550 mSATA SSD - Preconfigured as an OS Drive ( Operating System – Drive C: )
- 256GB Crucial M550 mSATA SSD - Preconfigured as an OS Drive ( Operating System – Drive C: )
- 1TB 7200RPM [SATA II - 3GB/s] (SKU - HDDX97)
- 6X Blu-Ray Reader + 8X DVDRW/CDRW Super Multi Combo Drive (Sager) (SKU - ODD084)
- Sager - Intel® Dual Band AC 7260 802.11 A/AC/B/G/N 2.4/5.0GHz + Bluetooth™ 4.0 (SKU - WIFI94)
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- ~Windows 8.1 - 64-Bit (64-Bit CD Included) + MS Office 2013 Trial
- Sager 2 Year Parts & LIFETIME Ltd Labor Warranty w/ Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Customer Support (SKU - WTY096)
- * 24/7 LIFETIME U.S. based technical support
* Extreme QA testing by dedicated technicians
* 24-72 Hour stress testing and benchmarking to ensure top performance and stability
- Standard Production Time
- Yes, I would like XOTIC PC’s White Glove Premium Packaging (XPC Service - requires shipment to XOTIC PC: will add to build time)
Total (Including 2% Cash Discount) = $3,633

I opted the copper cooling out as most of you advised me against it, and I decided to go with the Intel network card as some of you told me to stay away from the Killer cards.

What do you think about my ssd configuration? and is the 72% gamut screen upgrade really worth it? Thanks!

 

I like the configuration, The only thing that I see as not overly necessary is the CPU, typically don't need anymore than the 4810 unless you have a specific program that's a CPU hog. As far as gaming the 4810 is plenty.

72% is definitely nice. Again not something crucial, especially for gaming, but you'll notice it when watching movies, looking at images, or just general usage browsing around the internet.

 

Thanks Derek! Glad to hear that. I was just talking to Alex H. He takes cares of my order You guys are awesome! The reason I considered 4910mq is I mainly play MMO's which I believe tend to be quiet CPU dependent. Do you think 4910 is just overkill or would I run into some heat issues? Because I am not looking to save money I just want the best possible performance I can get within my budget. Thanks a lot!

Oh and what do you think about the network cards?

 

Can't go wrong with the 4810 or 4910. I have my MX @ 4.2GHz just because, not because I have games that need it. Other than that, you did exactly what I would do if I were ordering now.

In fact my machine would be with a 4910 if I could do it over.

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The 4810 is only 100MHz slower. I have the 4810 and it's pretty darn zippy. It will only hold you back if you are looking to top the benchmark charts.

I have the 7260 and has the strongest signal of any card I have ever owned. You will like it.

 

Thanks Ethrem! I just ordered it. I only wish I could also have a 120hz screen, ad it would be too perfect haha

 

I'm glad to hear that about 7260. I agree with you on 4810. However it was in my budget and I thought that extra power wouldn't hurt so went with the 4910

 

I would have taken xotic's advice but it's going to be a killer system

 

Hey guys, so I ended up ordering the np9377. However I really really want a 120hz screen to properly use my dual 980m. I will also make a thread but I just wanted to get your opinion. Well, I did some research:

Eurocom still offers 120hz screen for their version of np9377, called X7. The part number for it is listed as: LP173WF2 (eDP). I asked them if I can purchase it from them. If so, voila!
http://www.eurocom.com/ec/configure(1,240,0)ec

Also I checked laptop lcd sellers and found laptopscreen.com I am not sure but It seems pretty better than random sellers from China or Hong Kong, since it is US based and I will have a contact to sort out any problems.Also they offer 3 year warranty and guarantee that it is not an aftermarket item. Anyways they have the LP173WF2 on their website:

LP173WF2(TP)(A1) Replacement Laptop LCD Screen From $79.99 Brand-new screens.
It is A+ so it is not taken from a laptop or anything. And it is matte. Only thing is I am not exactly sure if it would fit my np9377. I have just sent them an email and waiting for a reply. Does anyone know?

Edit: Just found out they also have LP173WF2(TP)(B1) and (B2) too. This is getting more confusing now

Also I searched the website however could not find the n9377 under the sager list. There was np9370(?) however. Again it is new and matte. I still dont know if it fits a np9377 though.
Screen for Sager NP9370-3D. Replacement Laptop LCD Screens

Has anyone tried to replace their screen? I would really appreciate any help. Thanks!

 

It needs a different cable and uses a different connector on the motherboard which may or may not be soldered onto your motherboard.

 

Xotic has already said that all Sager 9377s have the connector.

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Let's hope that continues but as it's not an official feature I would always air on the side of caution.

 

Well if xotic tells someone that yes, it has it, then they will have to deal with the fallout if it doesn't.

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It depends on when they said it, we just had a graphics revision which requires a new revision of machine. Sager could have changed their options from clevo. They may not have but it's best to check rather than assume.

 

Do you know how can I check that? I asked Xotic but they did not give me a clear answer. They just said "They usually do, but the guys at tech said they have not checked the latest 9377's for a while so we are not sure" A dodgy answer

 

It takes a fair amount of investigation if you don't have one open at hand. They are just agreeing with my point. To investigate it if you have the machine you will need to open it up and look for the connector on the motherboard which I believe is under the keyboard on this model (I don't have the manual to hand right now).

 

Yeah you are right. I think I'll just stick with 60hz for now.. until I am absolutely sure that I can put a 120hz screen in it. I just can't understand why LG decided to stop producing them. Maybe I'll just buy a 144hz monitor. Thanks for the answer man.

 

You can overclock the 60hz panel in this machine. If it can do 100hz like mine it might not be worth it anyway. A nice large external would still be good though.

 

I was the one who asked Sager a couple weeks ago. They told me yes it's still there. As it was pointed out though, that's subject to change given they don't have display option to make use of it currently. Best bet would be to check specifically when you're getting ready to order for confirmation at that time rather rely on information that's old.

 

Hey Derek, thanks for your reply. From the info I gathered, there is a 50 pin eDP connector but in order to put the 120hz on, I will also need the actual cable, since the cable inside is 40pin. I have no idea how to change the cable though :S You guys are absolutely not able to do it if I send it over right?

 

That would honestly be a question best asked of our service team. I don't know how Sager would do that with them.

 

To put it in requires a bit of disassembly to route it properly.

 

Yeah I guess. Do you think I should trust a laptop repair shop for this job? I'll try to find the best one possible but still I am nervous

 

A good shop can do it, I had one to a jack for me once which involved some over PCB solder work and they were good. It depends who it is.

 

Any 980m sli guys play some bf4 yet? If so what kind of frame rates yall getting?

 

Pathfindercod,

Check HTWingnut's review of the SLI system. Battlefield 4 was the first game benchmark covered in the review.

I've got one of the systems on order finally (have been waiting years to say that!) and was curious how the headphone amp is for the system? I've read that a headset such as Sennheiser's need a decent amp/DAC to take advantage of them and I was wondering how the on-board amp would do if anyone knows?

 

It's ok but you may want to consider an external one for particularly high end devices.

 

I use an external USB card (Xonar U7), and I notice a difference in the clarity of the sound through my headphones using that versus the onboard sound - using some old but relatively good quality Sennheiser headphones. (Yep, I have a different laptop, but still).

 

Thanks for the responses. I'll look into an external amp/soundcard if I decide to get a headset like that. First I've got to justify having an additional nice headset for home use alongside the one I just bought that will be my LAN party one.

One of the people attending the LAN I'm going to next week just bought the headset I'd linked and a DAC so I'll see if I can do some tests on that and will make a decision after some testing.

 

I've just got PX100's (from about 2008 or something!) and I think I can notice the difference. With better quality headsets you'd probably notice even more a difference.

EDIT: In my opinion the less sound processing the better: disable any software Dolby Surround (or other) nonsense and just get it piped straight through in native stereo (unless you have physical multiple speakers in your head set). Sound processsing in my experience only ever introduces noise, keep it straight from the source without any nonsense inbetween! (There's no magic to be had).

 

The best way to get pure audio is via the optical out.

 

Configured this setup with Black November deals at XoticPC

Sager NP9377-S (Clevo P377SM-A)
- Special Upgrade Package - "the Security Package" = McAfee Anti-Virus + Global Anti-Theft Protection ($74.00 Value!) (XPC Service) (Requires shipment to XOTIC PC)
- Special Upgrade Package - "the Cooling Package" = IC Diamond Thermal Compound + Copper Cooling Upgrade ($94.00 Value!) (XPC Service) (Requires shipment to XOTIC PC)
- 17.3" FHD 16:9 "Matte Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright LED Anti-Glare Screen (1920x1080) (SKU - SSC002)
- FREE! - 30 Day No Dead Pixel Warranty
- Sager - 4th Generation Intel® Haswell Core™ i7-4810MQ (2.8GHz - 3.8GHz, 6MB Intel® Smart Cache) (SKU – SPU401)
- FREE! - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
- NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 980M (8.0GB) GDDR5 PCI-Express DX11 (Maxwell) [User Upgradeable] (SKU – GPU01X)
- COPPER COOLING UPGRADE - Extra Cooling Copper Heatsinks Applied to the Heatsink/Heatpipes (XPC Service - requires shipment to XOTIC PC: will add to build time)
- 16GB DDR3 1600MHz [2x8GB] Dual Channel Memory (SKU - RAM04S)
- Sager Branding
- Standard Laptop Finish
- Non-RAID Storage
- 120GB Crucial M500 mSATA SSD ( Storage Drive ) - Stock
- 1TB 7200RPM [SATA II - 3GB/s] (SKU - HDDX97)
- 6X Blu-Ray Reader + 8X DVDRW/CDRW Super Multi Combo Drive (Sager) (SKU - ODD084)
- Bluetooth Included *With select wireless cards only* (See “Wireless Network” Section Below)
- Sager - Intel® Dual Band AC 7260 802.11 A/AC/B/G/N 2.4/5.0GHz + Bluetooth™ 4.0 (SKU - WIFI94)
- Internal 9-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini SD/SDHC/SDXC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo)
- Integrated Digital Video Camera
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- ~Windows 8.1 - 64-Bit (64-Bit CD Included) + MS Office 2013 Trial
- 3 Year Parts & LIFETIME Ltd Labor Warranty + LIFETIME 24/7 Tech Support (SKU - WTY008)

Is this setup good? any suggestions w.r.t configs ? and since the laptop is around for a while.. any known issues with it?

 

Just in case anyone is wondering, still waiting to hear about fixing my machine. Getting angry for real because these cards are too hot. Last word was that Sager hasn't released word about their availability and I'd get an email. That was like two weeks ago.

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Build looks good, Only thing I'd really opt to switch personally is the SSD up to the 250gb range. Absolutely not crucial to do, I just fill up 120gb too fast.

 

Last I heard we're still waiting too

 

Well i found out that my RMA was cancelled when I really meant to put it on hold to wait to see what Sager would offer with the new cards. So it was just reopened today when I explained that no matter which way you look at it, the cards are defective because they don't hold their base clocks. It was a miscommunication. I never intended to cancel my RMA as the cards are still defective, I was canceling my request to switch to 780M cards and instead wait for the new ones rather than pay more money for older cards.

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Hey fellas does te 9377 only have hdmi out, no display or mini display???

 

HDMI and Thunderbolt

 

is thunderbolt only for disk io or can mini display port for monitor be plugged in?