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    *** Official Clevo P570WM | P570WM3 / Sager NP9570 Owners Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by jclausius, Feb 5, 2013.

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    The chips do vary a LOT in how they handle the higher speeds too. So hopefully the heatsink helps.
     
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    I sure hope so. I know the temps will improve dramatically with Liquid Ultra versus IC Diamond, but not unless I can get a really tight, high pressure fit. Liquid Ultra is awesome, but it really doesn't do very well at all with a sloppy fitting heat sink.
     
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    No it sucks at larger gaps it's true.
     
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    Thanks Brother John :D cheers bro, so glad to see all my great friends again. So cool yours is working flawlessly as well. Just got a Xeon E5 2697 V2 es ;) pretty cool chip :) doesnt use over 1867 ram though even on XMP. Issue i found with 2666/2600mhz on our P570wm is that the ram/system multiplier wont go over the one used for 2400mhz. I tried for days and days on end. The limit via motherboard/bios/cpu seems to be the 2400mhz system multiplier bud. Still 2400mhz sodimm is incredible in itself :D XMP is funky on our bios or motherboard but as you see if you set the right values/timings over what we are trying for we can get it to load exactly what we want ;) cheers so glad to see all my friends again :D
     
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    Awesome congrats Brother Fox I am so happy the new timings are doing that much better for you wow :) high five bro so coooooool took a lot of no sleep lol to find them but I can see it was definitely well worth it. Please share all the XMP here I sent for other users to try. I am so happy you and John have already benefited from them and I hope mny more do in the future. Thanks Mr. Fox glad to be apart of it all
     
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    Awesome I hope the new heatsink is perfect :) Brother Fox
     
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    I made custom XMP for it for the Panther 5 specifically because XMP certain timings are borked lol and we have a 255 tRFC limit !? Mr. Fox would probably post the XMP profiles so users can try to attain 2400mhz :D The first was a higher latency set of timings and another a very very tight 11-13-13-25 @ 2400mhz. I hope I can have made a contribution that truly makes a difference for as many that like to push their hardware to their fullest potential.

    Btw you probably knew but if not I am MW86 @ Tech|Inferno , Residualvoltage here and I don't mind sharing that my name is Marc. Cheers my friends.
     
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    It's amazing if you think where the stock machine came from and the original problems the P270WM had.
     
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    absolutely I am still amazed so much power has been packed into one laptop unit. Gave my brother my 4960X for his birthday to replace his 4820k. He gave that to me and I can use that to work on any 2400mhz ram testing if it comes up, am pretty sure the 4820k's imc will run the 2400mhz as well :) I picked up a Xeon E5-2697 V2 :D my first Xeon and well my first 3ghz@24threads cpu lol. My Alien 18 is my overclocking cpu I figure as I couldn't cool the 4960x like you guys in all these benches lol so I got the Xeon that has 130w tdp with the most threads I could find for LGA2011 socket. The Alien has nice latency and bandwith on dual channel 2400mhz. These laptops have come a long way.

    Mr.Fox I got sick of the crap automatic fan control and cut two wires on each of the 3 fans so the Alien 18 uses the max of all the fans 24/7 regardless of temps :) It was a fail on Alienwares part...
     
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    Hi friends.
    Any word on Windows 10?
    Anyone (with this machine) upgraded yet?
    Any known issues?
     
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    My Panther 5 is on Windows 10 seems to work without any major issues
     
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    And what minor ones?
    :rolleyes:
     
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    XTU has install permission issues
     
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    10X
    This problem already solved in the new XTU version.
    Ill try upgrading later today.
     
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    other than that mostly good but not the performance in physics and stuff you see on windows 7 ;)
     
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    Waited for it mostly for DX12 fun.
    Video games development.
    :vbcool:
     
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    yeah i read multi threaded communication from cpu to gpu etc for performance is a new plus in DX12 since was more single on previous implementations
     
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    OK
    Updated to Win10.
    Everything works very good so far.
    1 exception...Finger Print Reader.
    Not working.

    +Unlimited Draw Calls.
    A whole new building concept.
     
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    i havent been using it, which one are you using. whats the software called. I know one said Egistic??
     
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    Glad to hear things are mostly smoothly moving over :) I need to part out my machine at some point now, it's a bit big to just to have lying around!
     
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    That's the one.
    It recognized by the system but no windows log in no KeepSafe etc.
    I do not really care.

    So far so good.
    System works smoothly without any issues at all.
    Managed to set Hyper-V VM Ubuntu.
    Fun.
     
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    you jumped to desktop at this point?
     
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    Which version? @Samot had this issue but solved it.
    Here.
     
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    Also try running the install file with admin privileges.
     
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    Mine was pre installed on 8.1 and working fine now.
     
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    skylake cpu runs hot cause of IGP, will be good for skylake E though. comeon clevo..
     
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    The CPU tests I have seen have been with the IGP turned off and it's still hot.
     
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    i dont think you can turn off IGP completely can you? i think current/voltage still goes through it do they not?
     
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    Intel use special power transistors that power it off when not needed.
     
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    Well... Windows 10 is working as well as can be expected on the Panther. Still takes a hit on CPU performance and Windows 7 is still performance king where the CPU in concerned. Basically what we already knew from my tests with the M18xR2.

    Example is 4.3GHz on CPU, 980M SLI running at stock clocks. Crappy physics performance, LOL. Yay.

    http://www.3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/10164323/3dm11/10164262

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
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    there might be a mobile OC'd cpu thats not HQ, another XM cpu coming soon? or MX. either way clevo gonna fit that 6700k in their laptop, waas looking forward to get one except it only fits 1 GPU..
     
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    Yes, I most certainly do. I need money to have one, and right now I don't have any of the filthy green stuff to spare. With a devastating mountain of medical expenses for a surgery my wife needed I probably won't have any discretionary funds for anything like that for quite some time. I'll have to be content for now and keep my priorities in alignment.
     
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    Thank you!

    Looking on the bright side, when I can actually afford one, they should be a little bit cheaper. :vbthumbsup:
     
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    Awesome. Thank you. Let me know when you do that and I will see if I can swing it.
     
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    I have seen mentions of K series processors for mobile, we will see if they will offer an unlocked chip.
     
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    *sigh* Well, now I need to spend $1300+ for a transmission in my car on top of the medical bills... LOL. When it rains, it pours... but, there are still more things in life to be thankful for than upset about.

    I have seen that reported as well. Let's just hope they are socketed or it won't matter too much. Imagine the thrill of swapping motherboards in an effort to get a nicely binned BGA CPU in the silicon lottery.
     
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    I never was much of a person for chip swapping unless I got a real dud.
     
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    i have heard rumors of new version of 570wm, correct me if im wrong. then my alienware can finally retire.
     
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    ***Windows 10 Upgrade Information for Eurocom Panther/P570WM***

    Eurocom has updated their driver downloads page for this model to include Windows 10. Clevo Hotkey is still buggy, just as it was under Windows 8/8.1 and hopefully Clevo will put out an updated version of Hotkey for both of those OSes soon. The SoundBlaster X-Fi software is not listed for WIndows 10. I have not installed the Windows 7/8 version. It may work OK, but I don't know yet. However, I did note using the updated RealTek Audio drivers that the configuration has to be set to 7.1 instead of 5.1 or the rear speakers do not work. Enabling 7.1 shows side speakers (which do not exist) but the rear speakers work fine with this configuration.

    I am having a few bugs with Windows 10. Nothing major, but rather annoying. I am having random missed keystrokes, most often involving the space bar, but less often other keys. Highlighting text with the mouse cursor also skips while dragging and attempting to drag a window on the desktop frequently maximizes the window as soon as you single-click the title bar. A single-click on a file often tries to open it. These all happen randomly, not every time. My machine is dual boot and these issues do not exist under Windows 7, so I am guessing it is a glitch with Windows 10 mouse and keyboard controller drivers rather than hardware.
     
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    @bro kpaxx I would be interested in your p570wm with 980m sli too let me know when you decide to sell it :) you can reserve 4960x to brother Fox :) I would be happy with a 4930k

    My m18x is slowly dying off. by the way is p570wm heavier than m18x ?

    also any news new of Clevo releasing a Sli machine with desktop cpus?
     
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    Yes it's a bit heavier, especially if you include the 2nd power brick.
     
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    what are the chances any of you guys getting this =/

    http://www.blogcdn.com/cn.engadget.com/media/2011/06/spark-s9t-2011-05-31-1.jpg

    that picture is taken 4yrs ago of 17" model, they have got 4790k currently and 24" just came out a week ago, they are planning to do 21" soon.

    imho this would replace clevo machine quite nicely, too bad it doesnt have internal battery like laptops do. if clevo does make a new lappy with HEDT processors haswell/skylake, performance wise it will be comparable to this, unless people go for 24" which can go up to 2 xeons.
     
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    That's the size of a desktop so not really this market.
     
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    i'd need more than 32gb ram lol, 64gb would be bare minimum for me and laptop doesn't cut it. ddr4 sodimm soon?
     
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    I saw some corsair value modules for sale IIRC.
     
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    my guesses that ddr4 sodimm wont be remotely close to be affordable until kaby/cannonlake comes out. due to skylake can still use ddr3 nobody will go for expensive route as theres almost no benefit except longer battery life with ddr4, which can be accomplished but UL dimm 1.2v ddr3 anyway.

    64gb ram laptop, not for at least another 2 years..
     
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    I though that too but the initial prices in the US look reasonable.
     
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    by the end of this year it should come down to 60 usd per 8 gb sticks
     
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