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Hi @ all,

sorry to be eventually off topic, but maybe you can give me some advice on this? I got a GTX 970m which I wanted to use for my P570WM3, but it seems to be damaged of some sort. Flashing with Lord Prema's BIOS and VBIOS went fine, but installing the Nvidia Drivers afterwards isn't possible. The card is neither recognized in BIOS nor in GPU-Z/Nvidia Inspector. Only in HWinfo, see pic attached.

Any ideas on that?

 

You have to flash the P570WM BIOS Mod (without 3) as only that has been made compatible with GTX9xxM cards.
(Reason being no existing 3D license for GTX9 by any vendor).

 

Yep.
Not sure yet. Will have to tinker more later. I had just gotten started when the laptop ran into some issues. 3 mosfets look like they need to be replaced.

This can't really be compared to rpm's....Because rmps are a true value and not a percentage of them.

And the TDP in a laptop (Gpu only) stands for Thermal design power. Not the actual watts. So you are setting the TDP based on how well it can be cooled, not by how much power it can pull from a system
This system can pull 700+ watts over all. I'm pretty sure that is far above 120% tdp on each card.
(Speculation of course)

Example.
The simulated true value should read about 180% to 220% TDP (Or from 110W to over clock of 210+W). Is this what you are seeing when overclocked? This would represent a closer to true value than 120%. The system is factory at this from the start. They just dial it back with throttling and call it 2.0 boost.
As many situations you have FIXED for us with your mods you should understand everything is an improvise. And if the manufactures were "always" right, then we would not be having guys like you fixing it for us.

 

Sorry for the misunderstanding! I flashed it in a Clevo P170EM with your appropriate BIOS for it and it went fine. Wanted to test the card in another machine before using it in my rig.
But what pisses me really off, is that swapping back the original GTX 675mx left the card in an unusable state too!? WTF??? *sigh*

 

@CaerCadarn there is no puplic mod for P170EM that requires no .inf mod. Just reset the CMOS on the P170EM for it to boot again on the GTX675MX.

@johnksss hope you get your system fixed up soon:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-the-new-batcave.776183/page-80#post-10094511

 

Thanks.

Talking to your friends at Eurocom now. A shinny new board with the prema factory bios on it! Is that bios the same as the current one im running?

 

They have a couple of newer betas...P570WM is here to stay a while longer.

 

Yes, so I see.

 

Prema,

I have an NP9570 with SLI 880M and Windows 10 Home 64 bit. I am trying to get my bios to be the premamod bios v5 for NP9570 in an effort to stop my graphics drivers from constantly crashing when they are not overheating or overclocked. I could not find out how to check my bios version so that I do not have mismatching EC and BIOS and brick my PC. In msinfo32, it says I have BIOS Version/Date: American Megatrends Inc. 4.6.5, 4/24/2014, SMBIOS version: 2.7, and Embedded Controller Version: 255.255. Is this okay to proceed with premamod v5 NP9570?

Additionally, once formatting my flashdrive to be FAT32 FREEDOS, I could not get a screen up to boot from it no matter how many times I pressed F7 (and I tried F12) during boot. It's like my boot functions don't exist. I'm probably just doing something wrong. Any tips there?

 

On this model everyone can directly flash the mod no matter what version they are on right now.

You need to disable UEFI/Win8 mode in BIOS first before yo can boot from USB...

 

@Prema: Unfortunately the CMOS Reset didn't help bringing the card back to Windoofs. I had to reinstall Windoofs and then it was back! Lesson learned!

 

Aha! I didn't see that in the read me, but it was there! My bad, and thank you! I successfully installed your v5 BIOS for NP9570.

How should I go about updating or modding my vBIOS? Is this something I should even look into for hopes of stopping inexplicable graphics driver crashes (SLI 880M and they aren't overheating but often crash under load around 65 degrees Celsius)?

 

The best way to stop those inexplicable driver crashes is to sell the 880Ms and buy 980Ms

 

Haha, yeah, that is the dream...

How would one go about that? I don't know the first thing about replacing the graphics cards in my PC, nor where to sell my old ones (nobody would buy them), or where to buy random 980Ms from.

Ideally, I would absolutely love to do that, but 1) I have absolutely no experience with computers (this BIOS modding thing was new to me). 2) Money.

Do you have any recommendations on how to do such a thing, though?

 

You could probably sell the cards (very cheaply) on ebay and get a ~$400 970M to hold you over until you can upgrade.

RJTech is a good place to check for cards. Eurocom might have videos on how to upgrade GPUs; they have one for the P377SM-A.

 

Gotcha. Thanks so much!

 

Since the heatsinks are all the same, if you are on the latest prema bios the new cards are pretty much plug and play.

 

You can find the vbios mod for GTX880M here:

http://forum.techinferno.com/showthread.php?t=1847

 

Thanks so much! I'll look at it tomorrow.

I'd like to report that with hours of gaming today though, my graphics drivers did not crash after installing prema mod v5 for NP9570. Not sure if I got lucky or the modded bios helped in some way, but this wasn't normal with the old, stock bios, so thank you so much!

 

I never had any issues with my machine.
Works perfectly fine.
Prema BIOS form day one!

Simply love this machine.
Waiting for MXM Quadro refresh though.

 

M5000M (N16E-Q5-A1 aka GTX980M Quadro) are already available:

Spoiler

 

Wait Wait Wait...What???!!!
Thats good...very good!

Little search did confirmed that.
[Dancing Icon]

But i could only find MXM for dell machines.
Any confirmed working cards for CLEVO machines?

EDIT: I guess we need a new BIOS mod for it to work.

 

It'll work just fine since it shares GTX980M tables which are already in the Mod...as usual no SLI connector though.
next Mod will also no longer require an .inf Mod...just waiting for the E-GXX to land to get them all done in one update.

If you get the M5000M now, just drop me a mail and we'll work it out together...

 

Thank you very much dear friend.
I guess after i'll get through our Jewish holidays season and my brother's wedding (3 weeks from now) (And a little amount of money i am waiting for) i'll order myself a couple.
As soon as i get them i'll get in touch to solve any unexpected issues(and the expected ones too).

I do not care for SLI because my gaming experience in the last 2 years comes down to my own projects and 1-15 hours a day of Wolfenstein ET hardcore sessions.

Already built myself a 3D-Printer.
And bought Solid Works licences.
But the GF drivers or the lack of DP power(or both?) are crippling SW hard.
Now the waiting is over!

The beginning of the Solid Works FUN Era starts.

10X again for your (most helpful) help and the excellent work you are doing for the sake of humanity.

 

Dang Prema. Quite editing your post. I keep missing things.

My ram is running at 2400 mhz with timings of 12-13-14-31
HyperX impact

 

You're probably the best person to ask John... what would you say is the best brand of RAM to get if aiming for 2133MHz/2400MHz for my notebook? I've seen G. Skill (which I've seen benched lower than others unless Typhoon Burner has been used to manually set RAM timings etc), HyperX Impact and Corsair Vengeance so far.

 

Hello ALL.

I am a proud owner of a Eurocom Panther 5 (Clevo P570WM). I have been lurking and trolling this forum for awhile and i finally purchased me a Panther 5. Here are some of the specs of the laptop.

• Intel i7-4960X; 1TB 7200; 120hz 17.3 inch Matte
• SLI; 16GB; 2x 8GB GDDR5; NVIDIA GTX 980M
• Free Second AC Adapter
• 6x Blu-Ray WRITER; 32GB; 4x 8GB; DDR3L-1600
• Killer 1202 wireless; 3 year return to factory warranty

This laptop is awesome and i am proud to own something this powerful in a mobile product. I still have my Alienware 18 and Sager NP9380S 3D with dual 780M but this laptop is a monster compared to these two laptops. I am not really a numbers chaser but it is impressive to see benchmarks and overclock scores for this laptop from members of this forum. I am deliberating on installing Prema's BIOS mod to unlock more options to get the most potential out of this machine. I also was contemplating using SV7 vbios to unlock the potential of my Dual 980M. It was sad to this laptop discontinued so i had to get one of them before stock and parts ran out from dealers. With major laptop manufacturers moving to thin and light chassis it is a shame that power users are being disregarded. I appreciate having more power to run every game at the highest settings possible for extended periods of time or video encoding than something lighter with a longer battery life but not as powerful to run the games i want to play. Just wanted to write a post since i have not been in the notebook forums for awhile but with you guys influence I finally have my Panther 5 as well.

@D2ULTIMA, Now you know someone else who still has their Sager NP9380-S (Clevo P370SM3). LOL.

Cheers!!

 

Congrats Brother @DreDre - good choice.

 

Oh the Kingston or a good set of the old samsung ram, mine did 2133mhz 10-10-10-24.

 

Spoiler: Don't worry, it's not discontinued as far as Clevo is concerned yet

People just aren't selling them XD

YAY I'M NOT ALONE! (I've been hunting for us users for ages T_T).

Definitely Kingston or Samsung, okay. I'll look for those then. I think you just have luck with getting fantastic parts though Meaker XD. Is that Samsung RAM DDR3L?

 

I'm running my G.SKILL Ripjaws at 2400MHz on the Panther without issue.

 

I know you got it fixed up with Typhoon burner, but I remember your attempts in the AW18 before, and without using that program you had it run worse than the Kingston and Corsair even though they should have been at better timings than the kingston and equal timings to the corsair.

 

I used typhoon burner as well. Great program when it's working, but don't plan on getting rid of the machine doing the flashing or you'll run into problems.

I would think the ripjaws would be better than the hyperX. Even with the same settings I think they still pull better over all numbers.

Looking good Brother Fox.

 

The machine doing the flashing? Do you mean I need another machine to flash the RAM separately? I really only have the current laptop I'm using, and an old 2005 HP laptop for emergencies.

 

He means the machine that is running the ram stable.

Ex: Let's say I have a P570WM with 2133mhz ram, I flash it to 2400mhz and it runs fine.

I sell my P570WM and buy a different computer. Put in the flashed ram, computer does not boot. To make things work I cannot flash the ram back since I need the computer that ran it stable to flash it back.

At least that's how I interpreted it.

 

If that's the case it's not a problem; I'd be using this machine until it's dead, most likely. I'd have to have a huge resale value on this laptop + have a 120Hz screen in the P870DM for me to consider actually changing laptops. And if that was done, I couldn't use the RAM anyway; it'd be DDR4 next.

 

In that case you can boot using one good stick with an empty slot to boot, then slap in a modded stick and flash it with stock SPD. I've actually done that before. I don't like the idea of doing it, but it works. Just be sure you are grounded to avoid an ESD problem. You will have to buy Thaiphoon Burner for the new machine. The important thing is to always dump the original SPD and save it in case you want to put it back later.

 

I always have a spare stick of slow ram to clamp sticks to a slow speed if I need to.

 

Since I don't know how Typhoon burner works, I am quite confused right now.

 

I don't own this machine. Thought about it. The P770ZM, I own, is like it's offspring. I read this thread because this is where the masters are. A lot to be learned here.

 

I had thought about it too when I was considering this, but I went with my current machine because I had thought I wanted a mobile CPU this time around.

I'm still unsure if it was a good or a bad thing, considering that the heat may indeed have been a hell of a problem for me here.

 

It was a good thing! Debate it again on your next monster.

 

That will not be for quite some time, as I refuse to get another machine without 120Hz support.

 

You know panels much better than I do and I'd say take good care of that one for a possible transplant.

 

tis not only about the connector, but the LCD cover/mounting orientation/size.

Unless I can somehow frankenstein the P370SM3 cover onto some newer laptop if the connector works. And I doubt that's happening, XD.

 

Since most laptop manufacturers do not have an ample supply of 120HZ screens it is a shame as we as consumers have limited options of either swapping laptop displays or using external displays. It is one of the reasons i got the Panther 5 because EUROCOM offered it with 120HZ screens. 120HZ is better for gaming in IMHO and it is nite and day between 120HZ and 60HZ to me. That is another reason I am reluctant to part with my P370SM3 because of the 3D and the 120HZ screen.

 

Your license is tied to the machine you buy it from. And in the past it was quite the hassle to get a new license. MY license changed 6 times on the same exact machine. If I swapped out my gpus or changed the gpu id or even changed drives or how much ram I had in the machine. And they do not like handing out new keys for this.

As to bad flashing. You can recover a few ways. Using a slower chip as some have mentioned or flash on the fly. Meaning. As you boot the system up you would insert the bad stick with a good working stick. It wont show in the system but TB will see it and you can reflash it. This is for extreme cases where just putting in slower memory will not boot the bad flashed chip.

 

so here it is guys. " http://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidia-announces-GeForce-GTX-980-for-notebooks.150756.0.html" showing "Despite the inevitable high price tag, Nvidia has mentioned a number of OEM partners and designs, including the Gigabyte/Aorus (X7 DT), the Asus (GX700VO), the MSI (GT72, GT80) and the Clevo (P870DM). All models will support G-Sync and no Optimus except for the MSI GT80. In return, this massive MSI model will be the only notebook capable of supporting GTX 980 in SLI. The first notebooks with the GTX 980 GPU will come by the end of this month."

along with this being released, " http://www.storagereview.com/samsung_950_pro_m2_ssds_announced". if MSI support two of these in raid 0 via chipset its easily 3600MB/s read and 3000MB/s write.

specs pretty much same as desktop 980 except a bit lower TDP..

now onto real question, how would MSI deal with it's PSU problem. with dual PSU method? or restrain clock on CPU and GPU. two GPU being at 300w, theres nothing left for CPU and display as well as rest of the system, it isn't just going to work. an overclocked skylake CPU at 4.0ghz constant is easily going to drain 90-100w..

this compared to p570wm, only real thing is lacking cpu cores and clock frequency, as well as adequate cooling. what do u guys think

 

That is a lie.

 

that better be, dont wanna spend so mjuch money buying that with only 4 core cpu and restricted tdp