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I thought that part was pretty obvious.

To answer your question. Yes. A game can use more than 4GB. This is a fact. Matter of fact, there is one game that uses can use at least 8gb. Never tried it with my 4 Titan X's
PS, looks like a lot more than 15fps...



Didn't mess with the card at all, just did a vbios edit and ran with it.
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i dont get fun out of oc my gpu cause i know i wont ever use it to benefit from it. where as cpu i wanna oc as much as possible and use it at that overclock donno if same goes for u guys.

 

@johnksss do u guys win anything for being on the top ranking list?

 

You can win if you place in any one of the many competitions they hold every year, but this is not a get out what you put into it sport/hobby.

 

I run an asus swift monitor so i get a fair amount of advantage

As for the memory usage in SLI programs often show double the usage than a single card, second to show that memory is becoming a limiting factor in performance you have to find the point where it goes from playable to stuttering otherwise you are just showing a program allocating memory and not necessarily using it

 

Ok, Meaker@sager. You're getting a bit way to technical and out of the scope of the conversation.
This is to show that a game can use the 8GB of vram on a card. That's it there big guy. No hidden agenda. No secret handshakes in dark alleys and sleazy motels.
We all know that the memory is being stored on both cards. And is used as one (8gb), There is a long explanation about why that is but im not going to explain it. It's common knowledge.
Sorry bro, but the game is in fact using it. There is stuff about that as well. I was thinking you knew this already? My bad.

 

Hey guys... I found this 4TB "Portable" Seagate HDD that I was able to ransack like we did their 2TB models and now have it running as my data drive in the Panther. It will fit in a ODD bay HDD caddy in an Alienware laptop as well, but it is too thick to fit in the Panther's ODD caddy. The only place it fits in Port 0 (the drive you see on top when you take the HDD bay cover off). If there was about 1/16 of an inch more space it would fit in the Panther ODD bay. $122 at Best Buy... what a steal for 4TB, LOL.

 

Nice find there.

Other news.
There ya go. 12GB.

 

Yeah, 7TB of storage in the Panther now, LOL.

 

I would use that hard drive strictly for backup of the other 3 drives....Well, maybe back in the "first gen ocz every single drive fails" days.

 

Yes and on a 980M you are going to be hitting into the low teens of FPS at those settings so again a single card can't really use them.

SLI 980M I think there could certainly be a case to be made but for a single 980M 4GB makes a lot of sense.

I know I get technical at times but I am trying to explain why you can't just look at a listed number and go "Oh I must need that much" as that can be misleading.

 

I don't just look at numbers I go test them out myself. That sli video is mine. And that is exactly what it was doing. Even Brother fox tested this I think with his 780M. (I could be wrong) But on a machine with 2 to 4 gb of video memory and let's say...16 gigs of ram. The game will pick up the slack using your ram up to a point. So the less vram the more ram the game uses. Could use 6 to 8 gigs of it and a lot more cpu power. I will get back to retesting that theory later though....

 

If you do, the results will be interesting.

 

LOL thats so thick. sammy's 4TB ssd be out in july-sept this yr, gonna be premium switching everything to SSD.

 

Damn you. I just did the same a few months ago with 2TB drives. I have 5GB of storage in my X7200.

Any idea if the X7200 and Panther have the same HDD layout? If so I may grab 2 of the 4TB drives and swap them for my 2 2TB drives.

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from my understand they are the same, i think

 

They are except the p570wm can solder on an msata connector under the keyboard too.

 

Got it. Thanks!

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i'd just buy one instead of solder, would have to find resistor that would work on it dont wanna risk making mistake ruining a board and be out of computer for days.

 

I suppose you could pay someone to solder it for you, I don't think any boards came with it there as standard.

 

Right. I believe I read in another forum something about how they were soldered onto some development boards, but never made it to release. Mr. Fox was all over this at one point if I remember correctly.

 

there are two people who soldered their board and have msata working. i dont have this machine so i donno how it'll work out but i soldered unused pcie slots in other of my laptops and they work fine. xps m2010 mobo was cheap, i ruined one i think but replacement was only 30$ compared to this mobo knowing clevo probably wouldnt get parts from anywhere lol

so yeah i wouldnt risk anything if it's for a laptop this expensive, its a fun hobby to mod and add extra stuff different story when u really need a power house for pretty much 24/7.

 

Considering the existing storage options it should not be needed for most people especially as the drives in the cage are the sata iii drives.

 

would u jump on skylake-E if clevo ever adopts it with pcie storage option? quad channel 64gb ram.

 

I'd be interested certainly.

 

the type of spec is basically a desktop in a laptop. only cooling would be a problem at that point, and display size thats about it.

 

Well cost too

If you are doing that then being able to do something silly like 4x pci-e 3.0 drives would be fun.

 

samsung 950 pro and some of the newer pcie nvme ssd are already pcie 3.0 x 4 lanes, u'll need at least 4 lanes to get it's max speed although not yet saturated. unless you're looking for the SAS/pcie type thats capable of 3GB/4GB/s read type then yeah, but at that speed, gonna need some serious cooling lol.

seagate has a controller capable of doing 10GB/s in test, thats 1/3rd what desktop class CPU capable of at just a simple sequential read/write. cpu already need heatsink/fan, that SSD is gonna need some serious cooling. 950 pro is only at 2.5GB/s and its already so hot.

 

I'm talking about having 4x m.2 drives but given the PCI-E lane allocation maybe 3x would make more sense.

 

directly via cpu lanes or chipset lanes? cause chipset only dmi 3.0 which is just 4 lanes to cpu. and ssds through cpu lanes can't be raided through IRST. can only be raid via software through windows.

 

Exactly, one or two off the chipset for the OS and then one or two off the CPU for extra high speed storage that you can software raid together, they will be able to transfer to each other at full speed and access simultaneously.

 

usually those type of drives right off CPU lanes for high speed storage are like 15mm lol. usually those ssds would be HHHL of an actual pcie card that runs on 8 lanes and would saturate 4 lanes with sequential speed or high queue depth at random 4k read/write performance. after HHHL would be 15mm pcie 3.0 x4 drives which performance is cut down, and then finally those m.2 devices which are even slower.

 

There is a lot of room for PCI-E drives to develop so it will be interesting to see where they go exactly.

 

thats another thing, manufacturer needs to implement these lanes directly from the cpu, but for consumer, these cpu at 16 lanes most because intel doesnt wish to give us 20 lanes. 16 lanes will be split with 2 GPUs, and thats the end of it.

kabylake coming up will have 4 more lanes via chipset but ultimately intel still control the design, as long as we have got 2 pcie nvme ssds via chipset, we can only use two SATA 6gbps storage device, a 3rd would null all sata 6gbps ports.

what we need is those -E edition cpu made inside these laptops that can go over 20 lanes then it'll work out. fingers crossed for skylake-E in clevo.

 

You approaching speeds at that point that you may run into other limits of course.

 

iirc what u mentioned a long time ago, more pcie lanes design means mobo cost more. im sure they'll just do the bare minimum for laptop and always leave us hanging lol. even if cpu has 40 lanes it'll only use either 16 or 32 at most, just like p570wm

 

There was not reason really to use more on the P570WM to be fair.

 

Kind of like a one-car bachelor with a three car garage and a four-bedroom house?

 

Well back then devices to take advantage of the pci-e lanes were not really around.

 

i guess you're right. sandy-E time was when pcie ssds were really first introduced to consumer even then it was already super expensive, and it was meant for desktop, however SAS has being around for quite some time, maybe they could have done just that, fit a SAS SSD with 8 lanes of PCIE 2.0.

onto topic of next gen skylake-E in a laptop, i think chances of that are very slim, cooling would mean bulky laptop and tbh clevo is forced to move towards thinner laptops as majority of people tend to go that route rather than a thick power house. 18" to 17" is another thing, after the MSI 80 we might not see anymore 18" laptop in future, kinda sad though.

put hopes on cannonlake consumer would have 6 cores, but doubt it.

 

Guys, I need your help please!

I desperately searched for a spare CPU heatsink in Germany/EU, but there is none! The only vendor I know of is RJTech, but they charge 130 Bucks for shipping costs, which is unacceptable!

So here's my plea: If somebody (in the states) would be so kind buying it for me and shipping it afterwards to Germany, it should be around 50 Bucks shipping costs, which would be fine!

The math is: 85$ (heatsink) + 16,45$ (SC within the states) + 38$ (SC to Germany afterwards - USPS Priority Mail International). The package should be around 1-2kg, if it matters.

I will instapay with PayPal or another preferred payment method. I dunno of another solutions....

 

Have you actually spoken to resellers to see if one will order it for you?

 

I asked every reseller here in Germany but the only answer was that it is out of stock and they don't field them anymore.

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Have you tried some of the other countries or Clevo's european repair center?

 

I reached out to Clevo Germany, but they said this heatsink is end of life and they have no spares.

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Try Eurocom, they where the last ones Clevo produced the P570WMx for one year after it was EOL.

 

Last time I checked with RJ Tech they had one used heat sink that did not include the fan. I bought a new heat sink from Eurocom instead. I already had a used heat sink that was no good, so I was not down with the idea of paying them $85 for a used heat sink that might be available because it was no good for the machine is was installed in to begin with. (I find it questionable why would they have a used heat sink on the shelf if it was good one in the first place? LOL) Check with Eurocom to see if they have a brand new one available. I will send you a PM with more info.

I also heard from another P570WM owner a couple of days ago that a part he needed is no longer available anywhere. If service part availability is going to start becoming a problem, it might not make any sense to hang onto these machines. Selling them for a decent price while everything works correctly might be better alternative to having a broken door stop down the road with no parts available to fix it.

 

Hello All.

Eurocom assured me they had enough spare parts for this laptop to last for awhile but that was when I purchased mine in July so they may be running out of them at this point. I may be forced to sell it at some point. I do not see any of the new notebooks currently or on the foreseeable future that i would want to invest in until PACAL arrives. I do not want to go back to a quad core CPU and 6 or 8 core desktop CPUs in laptops are the only CPUs I would consider using. Since they have phased the Panther 5 out they are no longer updating the Nvidia Video drivers and i wanted to figure out a way to update the drivers so i can better enjoy ROTR.

 

Just download them from NVIDIA and go. I don't use GPU drivers from any of the OEMs. They should install with no INF mods or tweaks.

 

@DreDre just download the official 362.00 Driver from NGreedia. This one is very stable and bench friendly AND no tweaking Settings are castrated like in the newest one (364.51).