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That doesn't seem right. The RS comes with more than just the 1070. It also comes with the sabre hi-fi dac and the ti burr brown. Those are all on the motherboard which means if you put the 1060 motherboard in it you wouldn't have them. The websites I've seen that show both as an option typically just downgrade it to an rp6 once you have selected the 1060. Xmg for instance doesn't differentiate. You just pick the GPU you want, and they give you the clevo model that corresponds to that selection if that makes sense. I can't think of any real reason you would ever put the rp6 Mobo, in the rs chassis. It just makes it all bulkier when it doesn't really need it.

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Thanks for that link. I feel sick with worry about repasting but I think I'm going to have to. I screwed up an old ASUS ROG laptop years ago by repasting. The keyboard never worked right after I put it back in. I have gorilla hands. I'd seriously just pay someone else to do it but then again I'm not trusting a two thousand dollar laptop to just anyone.

 

Luckily it's far easier on the clevos. You just pop the bottom cover off and remove the heatsinks. No other modifications required. Some people say it actually takes longer to get the bottom panel off(so many screws!) Than to do the actual repaste lol.

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I agree with you .. I am just reporting what it's happening on several web site ..

Just to make an example ( and I saw this happening with different resellers) if you go with PC Specialist ...

https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/laptop-computers/clevo-laptops/40/

they let you configure what they say to be the P650RS G o P670RS G both with 1060 or 1070 ..
That is why I said don't take for granted that the RS has the 1070

 

I see what you mean. They are probably trying to just make it simpler for people, but it's more confusing for those who know what they are looking for. I didn't actually see the rp6 listed on their site, so I assume if you pick the 1060 you just get the rp6 instead of the rs. That wouldn't be a big deal if it weren't for the other changes aside from the GPU, like chassis thickness and weight which also get changed depending on what you pick.

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I just configured a clevo P670RS G on both HID and LPC Dgital and the price is the same for the same configuration. In particular LPC Dgital is 5$ cheaper but HID has the CLLU on the CPU while LPC Dgital hast the IC Diamond.

The only thing that sucks in my opinion is the warranty that HID offers.
1 year HID vs 2 year LPC

 

It seems to vary depending on what model you pick and what options you add. I'm not sure why mine winds up so much more expensive. It's probably the SSD and ram. The Sager special includes discounted upgrades to 16gb ram and m2ssd.

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but is this worth the candle? how do you manage your warranty?

 

I don't know ... I took a risk .. In the worst case scenario I have up to 90 days to pay 150 euros more to extend the warranty to international and end up paying the same as I would have bought it locally. But I have the lifetime thecnical support from hid and prema bios that is important to me since I want to oc

 

Well I'm on the cheap, I was talking about a cheap similar config, no fancy SSDs nor 16GB of ram, just the stock 1TB HDD and 8GB

Tanks for the tip! But Argentina is not located in Europe (Yet) so, yeah, no VAC but a $1000 dollars import cap and a 50% tax is here. You can be sure I'll get someone to bypass these limits for me

 

I didn't know that, good. So you didn't pick the international warranty to save up. I did instead and it was not worth it.
How long did it take to arrive?

 

You never know when Argentina might snap off and float over to Europe. Best to be prepared!

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I heard the EU is scrambling to add new members

 

Are there any alternatives to the massive brick that is the 230W power adapter for the 8153? Also what is the lowest wattage AC adapter that can be used to do basic stuff like web browsing and Microsoft word/excel?

 

65Watt would be enough I guess, and it wouldn't be that bulky. Nevertheless, I would measure the amount of DC power you consume when doing such tasks and buy accordingly

 

Can you explain how to fix the screen bleed? I know how to take the bottom panel off and swap drives and ram. But I have no idea how to take apart the screen.

 

if u r in europe they can charge u 7% of the total cost and handle the custom dutiea for u. I think they probably run away from that.

 

For RAM, sager is using a nameless brand called Goldkey, while HID uses Gskill by default.

 

True, but hynix actually makes ram for many mobile devices such as high end smartphones. I'm also positive you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a laptop with gskills and goldkey in use. Probably not even in benchmarks tbh. But I could see how that may raise the price a little.

 

I know Hynix. But what is the relation between Hynix and goldkey?

 

Hynix apparently makes goldkey. At least that was what was said by the person who discovered it initially, and I believe kittys confirmed.

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Can I confirm the P670RS-G come with 75hz panel? Will 120hz panel be available ? If so, is it worth waiting?
Btw, how is the screen quality compared to other brands like MSI GE/GS/GT, ASUS and Predator?

Thanks!

 

Actually, it has not arrived yet. It was shipped on september 9 and it should arrive by the half on next week according to HID

 

Hey guys, I'm still shopping around for the P650 and found PC Specialist (UK) to have competitive prices and I'm waiting to pull the trigger until Donald from HID gets back to me with prices. Is there anywhere better, price wise? Going for PCS over XMG saves me at least 400 euro, which is crazy.

Something I found weird was the offering for monitors in the PCS config, they do a 3k screen. Do these configs even exist or is that a typo. On that note, for people that did pick the 4k screen, how does the scaling work out in Windows? Same question applies if you happen to use Linux.

 

Isn't gskill just hynix with a fancy shell?

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Yes p670 is 75hz

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My Kingston HyperX Impact 2x8gb modules also contain sk hynix chips.

 

Hi guys, some new info :

I asked PC Specialist for the reference of the 3k panel the P650RP can have. It's the Panasonic VTX16T020G00. I can't find anything on that panel though.

 

Has ur machine been shipped on sep 9? I also ordered it from HID but so far nothing changes. It is still "payment review complete"

 

Thanks for that. I was trying to figure out what that was, so looks like it isn't a typo. I wonder if 3k is the sweet spot with the scaling and etc, maybe it would be better than the 4k?

 

Not really. They can do whatever they want with the screens, resellers can put in different ones if they wish. However, 4K is an even multiple of 1080p, so gaming at 1080p will look like a proper screen at 1080p. The 3k screens are not, so using 1080p to game will look weird. I'd recommend sticking with 1080 or going 4k, 3k is weird.

Also hype, we are the most active thread right now guys

 

Well that saves me 100 quid (108 to be exact). The more you know ~

Would 4k even be worth tho?

 

Idk, in the U.S. it was like a 100 dollar upgrade from 1080p. So for me that was easily worth it. But not that it will diminish battery life a little bit. You need to use scaling on it, but I love how crisp everything looks. The GTX 1070 can also handle a surprising amount of things at 4K. Shooters like BF4, or Overwatch can be maxed out at 4K.

 

I doubt I'd be gaming much at 4k as I worry for the temps, though if you want to put that to rest that'd be great. Mainly concerned about how the scaling affects other applications/everyday productivity.

 

I'm not sure what you mean by that as long as the 16:9 aspect ratio is preserved then it scales fine. I have a 2560x1440 QHD(4 times as many pixels as 720p) desktop monitor which is a common resolution and it looks phenomenal. I think that's what he meant by 3K. There really isn't any definition of 3K since we seem to be jumping from 1080p to 4K.

 

So I got off the live chat to PC Specialist and found out (for anyone that cares)

Screen:

Sound Card: They don't use the ESS Sabre DAC but the SOUND BLASTER® X-FI® MB5, I was looking forward to getting the former.

So would the screens be rather hit and miss because it just depends on what they have on hand at the time?

 

MB5 is a software DSP suite, not a DAC.

 

So first off their 3k panel is 2880x1620. A very uncommon resolution. Scaling also doesn't work well just because its a 16 by 9 aspect ratio. Your 1440p monitor will scale perfectly into 720p as the monitor just has to treat a group of 4 pixels like 1. Hence the benefit of the even multiple. However, 1440p into 1080p can't work that way, it would need to treat like 3ish pixels as one which doesn't work because that's not a square. So the monitor uses an algorithm to recalculate what color each pixel should be. This leads to 1080p feeling blurrier than it should if it was a native 1080p display. 4K doesn't have that happen with 1080p, it still looks like native 1080p.

The screen will obviously look great at native res (in this case 1620p), but gaming at that resolution will be difficult in better looking games. Though with a 1070 I suppose it would work fairly well.

 

I ordered the 4K model - I've gotten used to high res screens from my old 13" ultrabook. The pixel density is only a little higher for the 4K screen compared to that, but of course it will have a lot more real estate.

I'm interested to see how battery life and thermals work out. I honestly don't expect to get much more than 3+hrs out of the thing gaming (maybe more if I use the internal graphics, turn down the backlight, etc).

 

Gaming try 90 minutes. Non gaming usage should be more like 4+ hours. No laptops have good battery life under gaming load it draws way too much power.

 

The more I know ~

Still a pity that it lacks it.

 

That's weird what gpu are you looking at? Clevo lists the P650RS as having it, so if you ordered a 1070 they would have literally had to remove it. The P650RP however, with a 1060, does not come with it.

 

The Sabre DAC? The 1070. Maybe they weren't sure so they said they don't know?

EDIT: Though it could be my fault because I didn't specify the 1070, they just asked if it's the 15.6 inch of the 17 inch (so P650 or P670)

 

Clevo lists all the 1070 P6XX models as having the SABRE DAC.

http://www.clevo.com.tw/clevo_prodetail.asp?id=937&lang=en

 

Yeah I was perplexed and ended up there too. Though why are there more than one of the versions with the 1070, am I missing something? Went through the spec sheet and couldn't find a difference except for the model number.

 

Yes .. You have to know that for some unknown reason the order status auto update doesen't work very well .. You have to aske them the real status of your order ...
I always contacted them asking for the update status .. Mine was "in production", but they already shipped it so ..

 

The finish is different. The P651 lacks the chrome trim on the back I believe, and theres even like a P653 with a matte finish. The specs should be the same though.

 

Ah that's fair, clearly didn't check out the aesthetics. What do you make of PC Specialist using different IPS screens based on availability? That sounds like a lucky draw on which screen you get if you do get a lesser IPS screen.

 

Yeah... The default Sager one has a pretty awful response time of like 25ms though, so I don't think they'll give you something egregious.

 

I plan on ditching my 75hz panel once 120Hz one becomes available...if anyone will ever answer my emails...