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Hey guys, any of you getting blue screen on windows 10 lately?
I keep getting the kernel security fault error every-time i try to open adobe photoshop after a windows update.

 

Have you looked up to see if it's a common issue with adobe?

 

Any driver or mod for headphone jack in Linux ??

BTW: I opened the mouse-pad and tried to clean it. Still could not make mouse button 1 work. I guess there is something wrong with the button itself.

 

Lum-X, did you see my post about it a while ago?

 

Fixed it!!!

It was because of the latest Nvidia drivers! Rolled back to the previous one and had no issues!

 

Yes i did but i didnt work. I will try it again and see if i can make ti work.

 

Ah, there have been a lot of people having issues with the latest set.

 

Hey, your Galaxy S5 certainly supports USB 3.0. I believe it is one of two smartphones that have it along with Note 3. The warning popup saying that it would be faster to connect to USB3 port is correct. I think your cable isn't USB 3. USB 3 cables have blue port. Samsung didn't include USB 3 "cable" in every country. In U.S they shipped it with USB 3 cable but they shipped USB 2 cable in U.K for example. I know it sucks, I'm complaining too. I currently use my external disk's micro USB 3 on my Galaxy S5 when needed and it works fine, it provides faster data transfer and faster USB charging. You need to do what pat@XOTICPC wrote in below earlier where he explained nicely.

 

I must have looked up photos of the mini or something. I have the note 3 myself (I just ended my contract and went SIM only without upgrading, just replaced the battery and got a new case).

My note 3 came with a USB3 cable (UK), I just got a couple of extra ones.

 

any linux deivers for headphones ??

 

True, I didn't hear such thing about the Note 3, I think Samsung spared no expense in this case

 

Well it was a more expensive device, an obvious upgrade from the Note 2 but i'm not impressed by anything since.

Anyway, yes once USB3 is selected it should go into USB3 mode and run at full speed.

 

I think the Note 3 is a great all rounder. You have great runtimes thanks to 3200 mAH size replaceable battery, great performance, expandable storage, great FHD display, great camera, S-Pen and USB 3.0 port. Doesn't get very hot either. It would be a great shame if this marvelous device doesn't get Marshmallow update because it is more than capable.

 

Ok...so had my p650se for about a year now and yesterday i just noticed the metal cover of the screen has separated from the plastic mounting bracket (the plastic moulded frame that is glued on to the metal cover...the one that contains the screw threads) near the left side hinge.

It looks like it's likely to break at any moment if I'm nit carefull and as I'm at sea right now for 2 more months there's absolutely no way that I can get this into warranty.

I'm really bummed out.... I was afraid this would happen the moment that i saw how "flexible" the screen was.

Anyone have any idea if this is covered by warranty?

Anyone have this problem as well?

Also experiencing some thermal throttling on the cpu during xtu stress test so i guess i should repaste.

Anyone know of fake gelid thermal pastes?...it seems weird that after less than one year my temps went up nearly 15 degrees .

Maybe i repasted it wrong, but for the first few days after repasting my temps where lower by 3 degrees compared with stock paste so it seems weird ...hence the curiosity if my gelid extreme might be fake.

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Just a quick note on the CPU temperatures, you talk about repasting, but have you cleaned out the dust from the fan & heatsink fins? Can use a can of compressed air to blow out the dust.

 

I opened up the laptop and cleaned out everything....there wasn't much ti clean anyway....that's definetly not the reason.

I believe either the paste was not good and it dried out since i applied it almost 1 year ago....or I applied too litlle of it....but how would that account for the fact that initially my temps went down alot right after repasting.

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I had something similar with my laptop on my CPU. I use Arctic Silver 5 (not the best) and after about 6 months to a year I noticed CPU temperatures creeping up as well as temperature differences between cores increasing too - in my case I managed to solve this problem by just applying an ultra thin layer of paste (thinner than I'd ever used before, using the spread method); since the last time I re-pasted over a year ago the temperatures seem the same (good & low) with no large temperature differences between the cores. I think Intel CPUs and their mounting systems in mobile applications are finicky, unpredictable things & how you paste it up plays a part in the longevity of that application of thermal paste.

 

I don't spread.. I use the rice grain method... I will do it again when I get home because as I said I'm at sea right now and I didn't think to bring my repasting stuff with me.

In the meanwhile I just underclocked to 3.0 Ghz and undervolt by 100mV and it seems temps are ok without having negative effects on mu gaming.

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3Ghz is plenty really, I only have 2.6Ghz and don't notice any bottlenecks, and that's on the old Sandybridge architecture, I think IPC improvements (performance clock for clock) has increased by about 25-30% since then! At 3Ghz you won't be limited at 60hz (60fps) gaming, but if you were aiming for 120hz (120fps) then you'd probably want as strong a CPU as you could find.

 

Hey,

looked up all 882 pages

I've bought a used P651SG before new years eve - actually i'm searching for a Information: Is the heatsink of the P650Rx Models compatible to the P65xSx? Looked up the reviews of both notebooks and noticed on the pictures that the Skylake heatsink looks a bit different / larger. The only reason why it seems it doesn't fit to the Haswell CPU is that the fan connector could be in the wrong place.

best regards
bAsTiii

 

It's just the plate that's larger, it should perform about the same. There are two capacitors in the way.

 

Roger - so it doesn't make sense to switch to the "newer" one from the Skylake device. Temps actually are OK now i think, repasted yesterday with Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut which is a new thermal compound made in germany which should be equal to GC Gelid Extreme or IC Diamond. First i applied prolimatech pk-1 which was better then the stock paste/pad but not so good which i wished

Now i'm curious if i should flash a newer bios to the machine because i'm actually at 1.03.05 and my reseller mySN is listing 1.05.01 at the homepage Maybe a new EC/BIOS could fix a problem which i have with my speakers.. mostly everytime i start a sound e.g. windows sound or starting a mp3 in iTunes you hear a light sough from the speakers before the sound is played.. while the sound is played everything seems to me to be OK.

best regards
bAsTiii

 

If i have another brand P651SG can i still flash my bios with the mySN one?

 

If i have another brand P651SG can i still flash my bios with the mySN one?

 

Yes, the mysn one is basically the clevo bios with mysn logo at boot.

 

Anyway I could back-up the current BIOS right now so I can flash it back in-case I have any warranty issues with this laptop?

 

You can Switch to your Original BIOS - should be no Problem. On premas Homepage he has the original clevo bios to Download i think

 

I have a re-branded BIOS also for Asia market. I want to back that up so I can update to the new BIOS then if anything happens I can put it back to the original since my Lappy is still under warranty.

 

The speaker issue sounds like the sound chip being turned on after being in power saving mode.

 

@Studie: ok - Then it is wise to Backup the default bios
@Meaker: Actually the Hotkey Settings are "Multimedia" i guess in english - Windows: balanced. I will Look Up later if Windows is allowed to set the Realtek Device into sleep. This issue i had also at my p170hm in the past and was Never solved - thx mate for the advise

Edit:

I did not find any settings actually which could set the device into sleep - maybe it is a hardware failure.. maybe it is software related.. I must state that i had a MSI GT72S for a few days before i switched to the p651SG - i switched because of many problems with the MSI Device just from the beginning.. the device had also a sound issue which was that the subwoofer made a sound everytime a sound was played - it sounds like the device was turned off with a blob

Actually i'm loving my used p651sg, everything works fine and it is damn fast in gaming etc. - maybe i will switch at the of the year to a newer one with nVidia PASCAL, time will tell..

Edit 2:

Found a Energy Setting in the Realtek Softwares, seems That this Could caused the Problems

Edit 3:
=> Problem solved

 

Cool

Thanks for sharing your resolution.

 

Just curious, what was your problem ? And how does the Energy Setting of Realtek audio fix it ?

 

@ldkv: My problem was a light sough from the speakers everytime i played a sound file for example a windows sound or a mp3 etc. and no sound was played before.

For example: Surfing in the web with browser open, opening a mp3 => sough, then sound. Seemed like the speakers went to sleep and were woken up when the sound had to be played.

I looked up everything in the Windows Settings, didn't find anything.. then i checked the Realtek Software, in the software is a Energy Setting (Small Battery Symbole inside the software) and here you can switch between "On Battery" and "Everytime" with a Counter from 1-30 seconds then the speakers are putted into sleep mode. After i pointed the Settings to "On Battery" and 30 Seconds waiting time before the speakers are going to sleep, my problem is now solved. No light sough from the speakers anymore while i'm on AC since i changed the settings

Maybe i will post later a picture - i'm at work right now on my Thinkpad

(Sorry it's german, because i'm from germany - but i think you'll find it anyway )

 

There is no way i can fix the mouse 1 button. I guess i will leave it like this till i graduate because i wont need the laptop a lot after that. Now there is no way i can send the laptop back and be without it for weeks.

 

So I have this problem that the machine doesn't turn on, the gpu light is always on and hard drive led doesn't turn on while all 3 lock led start blinking like crazy. And after half a minute the both fans just started spinning at speed,even tho there was no heat. Does this mean I have a dead mobo or a dead gpu?


Ps : I checked my ssd and it seems fine, the same problem occurs even when I take the hard drive out

 

Seems like an Hardware failure for me mate - just get in Touch with your reseller, when drives are OK and you dont get a picture at Startup then i think it is Hardware related

 

Dead motherboard probably... RMA time...

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Try reseating the RAM or using one DIMM if you 2 or more installed. If that doesn't fix it, the mobo is probably dead and will have to be RMA'd.

 

Sounds not that good... Hope you will solve this issue

On a side note, I have had a look at the p650rx forum, apparently some users receive with their unit a 200W psu.

Any idea if we can use it on our model, and where to get it?

 

The plug is the same I think , above 180w bricks with that connector are really tricky to find.

 

Hi there.

Enjoying my Clevo since the first time I booted up about 13 months ago...

But now I've just bought some good speakers and I want them to give better audio quality. The audio seems very poor for me if I compare it with the output audio quality of a basic stereo.


Any easy way for improving the quality?


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Lucky for you, the P650SE has optical SPDIF output. If your receiver accepts SPDIF, buy a mini TOS link to regular TOS link cable and feed it to the receiver. If you can't use optical, then you can buy a USB to analog bridge that will you use regular RCA cable to connect the two. I have optical output to my Audio GD NFC 11 DAC, which feeds my Senn HD650 headphones. No more hiss, statics, or poor quality.

PS: You didn't connect the laptop directly to the speakers did you? There isn't enough power to drive the speaker from the laptop alone,

 

Sorry for the double post, but I want this questions to be separate. Any here do any encoding on their P650SE? The moment Handbrake starts to run the CPU temps shoots straight for 100C. I'm afraid encoding even one tv episode will fry the CPU. The only way I can keep the temperature under control is to throttle the CPU to like 25% usage. Is there another way?

 

That sounds like the CPU is not pasted up properly, or dust in the fan & heatsink fins (can of compressed air to blow out dust), or you might need to repaste the CPU. You shouldn't have to the throttle the CPU to 25% to get decent temps - I don't own your laptop but that's what I think.

 

Sorry, I don't even know where that spdif output is.

I was thinking about buying a external sound card and then plugging the headphones to the new card.

You mean that the new soundcard should be plugged via SPDIF?

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You using the Sound Blaster utility?

 

The laptop temp is fine doing anything besides encoding. Even the most extreme games will only make the CPU temp go to the mid 80s. Encoding will skyrocket the CPU temp even if CPU utilization isn't at 100%

 

There are three 3.5mm plugs on the right side of the laptop, 1 of them has red light coming out from it, that's the SPDIF. When you use SPDIF, the sound signal bypasses the onboard audio and is sent straight to your receiver/external soundcard/DAC/amplifier. This way, you can eliminate the noise from the motherboard and give you a clean sound. You can also do this via USB soundcard/DAC/bridge etc, it's just SPDIF is more straight forward. Basically you don't want the onboard sound card to process the signal.

As for what equipment you need, it depends on 1) what headphone/speaker you want to drive 2)what other receiver/amplifier you already have 3)the most important one, how big is your wallet.

 

Well that seems like a normal temperature while gaming for that thin laptop - in that case maybe you don't need to bother with repasting, but it might help, and you could use a quality paste like Gelid GC Extreme to shave off a couple of degrees (and liquid ultra to shave off another 5 degC maybe - but that's conductive). You could try undervolting your CPU to reduce temperatures.

 

I've just bought these headphones.

Audio technica m50x.

They sound pretty cool when I plug them to my house stereo.

Maybe I need an external DAC?

And yes, I'm using Soundblaster software but I pretty much doubt it makes the sound better by itself...