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Best temps should be ~80 for xtu benchmark, but again, it depends on ambient temperature.

99 and throttling sounds like your vents are dusty... Open your laptop, dust it and while you're at it give it a 'paste!

It really is not that different from repasting a desktop, only that you are operating on die directly

 

At least it's nice an easy to get to, not like some other brands where you have to take apart the whole thing

 

in the end I just sent it back to sager, who did waive the repair cost but charged for shipping (which is only about 80 dollars back and forth ). it turns out the gpu crapped out on me after a year and this is what happens with on board dGPU....

 

Okay, I have a compressed air spray duster, will try cleaning the vents with that. As for reposting, what's the best method to use with Gelid Extreme for the CPU and GPU e.g. should I just squeeze out a thin line down the middle of the dies and then press the heatsink down to squish it across the dies or is there a better method?

 

Depends on who you ask for the thermal compound application method. Usually they will all give you about the same temps for the most part, within a degree or two from what I've seen. But a thin line or a thin X should do it typically.

 

I use the cross method and works quite well IMO... @OXFORD Guy, GC Extreme is really easy to apply... Much less painful then IC Diamond!

 

With diamond being a bit thicker I usually am able to get the perfect application each time with it, for the GPU (up to the core size of a GM204 in the 980M) I use a single blob with tiny (and I do mean tiny) bits also placed on the very corners.

With my GM200 based titan you really have to use the cross method due to the size of the core.

 

How thin a line are we talking about? Also, how easy is it to take the heatsinks off and replace them?

 

I suggest practicing, you get a feeling for how much to use. As little paste as you can get away with.

 

For my p751 and former p650 I applied paste on the chip and then spread with a plastic card. Seems to work best for me. Usually a layer of about 1mm is applied (eye measurement) for the entire surface of the chip.

I used this method with Arctic mx2 and some shin etsu paste I had in the bag (leftover from previous 2960xm cpu).


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will the latest NVIDIA driver 361.75 work fine with the P6xxSG (non G-Sync) Mod and vBIOS from Prema's website - i think V2 is latest.... i didn't upgrade my drivers for months and would like to do this soon and now i had read somewhere about problems with 361.75 and different vBios revisions. I am not sure wether i need a new vBIOS MOD or not.

 

i guess yeah it will work, i just updated my Vbios to the V2 from prema and the newest 361.82 works flawless here

 

1mm sounds a but too thick to me, no?

 

I agree, you wanna aim for about sheet of paper thickness (about 0.1mm).

 

Personally I wouldn't stress too much about "proper TIM application". I just put a pinch in the middle and screw in the heat sinks. I get about 75-80C while gaming. I think that is acceptable for a gaming notebook.

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Could be that my 1mm appreciation is wrong. But the line is very thin

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I just bought a three month old P650SE with broadwell as a replacement for my w230ss, it was too good a deal to turn down. I do however have a couple of questions though:

a. Any recommendations for a 2.5" enclosure that works with the eSata/USB port that works off of a single cable (i.e. separate USB connection for power not required). While I could use USB 3.0, on a previous laptop I found eSata to provide a somewhat better experience for external storage

b. The laptop has the killer n1525 wifi card but unfortunately I run Linux as my primary OS and it isn't very compatible with this. I was hoping that kernel 4.4 would add support for the wifi and fix the bluetooth issues with this card but no dice. I was wondering if replacing it with a 2x2 Intel 7260 AC is plug and play, i.e. you could just re-use the existing antennas and they snap right in. Not sure if the antenna connections are standardized or not as I've never had to replace the wifi card before.

Very happy with this laptop so far, though going back to a bigger size is taking some getting used to

 

internal antenna connectors are standard. Not too sure about esata on 2.5" enclosures, I've only really seen them in older 3.5" hard drive enclosures. Most of the 2.5" enclosures I see in stores today are mostly usb3.

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If spreading it manually then you want the paste to be practically transparent assuming your heatsink contact is good.

 

When it comes to the external drive problem you can get an esata/usb3 combo to SATA+power cable to plug hard drives right into the laptop

Ex.
0.5m 12V 5V Power eSATA USB 2.0 Combo To 22 Pin SATA Cable For 2.5" 3.5" HDD https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NSEL108/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_PNxSwb54D48C5

I have one and have used it on my p650sg and it works well, the only thing is that our laptops will only do 2.5" drives because it does not have to 2 12v pins on the outside of the esata connector that are required for 3.5" drives


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Thanks for the suggestion, I'm on the road a lot so I'd really prefer an enclosure for the extra protection.

 

So I bought an Intel 7260 AC card, cracked open the laptop and went WTF when I realized the n1525 card is half the width of the Intel one, I guess the card size has changed relatively recently because I'm pretty sure my w230ss has the wider size. Of course, none of my local computer stores have this size so I guess I'm ordering on-line.

Oops I see now, it's using M.2 instead of pci-e, lesson learned.

 

The intel 7260 is msata, not m.2... The intel 7265 ac m.2 card is the one you should be looking for...

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Actually the 7260 came in both, but yes for this model you do need the M.2 version.

 

So I've seen a few people post about this thermal grizzly kryonaut, for those who have used it, is it worth the upgrade over ic diamond, I'm going to be repasting soon as I do about once a year and was thinking of getting some, thoughts?


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Would you risk buying this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...krvCqRTjybA2Ykygn1mskaAhg98P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

Not worth it.. Get Gelid GC Extreme.. Cheaper and maybe 1-2C hotter or the same... Honestly, GC Extreme is awesome.. Easy to apply and has kept my 4790K on a leash..

Spend a bit more and get the Acer H257U.. Awesome looking monitor!

 

LOL... you have my quote from the "thread of hate and discontent" here.

 

Yep Gelid GC Extreme is great. Ok if you run prime or Aida it might throttle, mine throttles only on core 3 which should be in the middle thus runs the hottest. The rest is Ok. Gamin temp are around 60 or low 70 in both CPU and GPU.

 

I'd stick with pure displayport displays if you can, it just saves headaches.

 

Does anyone have an recommendations for a decent mid-price FHD (doesn't need to be more) 23" or 24" display for use with my XMG P505? Would prefer a matte-ish screen, reasonable colour reproduction (though am not a professional photographer or anything like that) and reasonable response time for gaming (not necessarily the fastest). Would be useful to know if includes speakers or not, though presence/absence of them is not a deal-breaker, as can plug into other speakers. Budget up to about £250.

I'm fine most of the time with my laptop's display, but there are times when playing some games, watching movies or even working on large spreadsheets where I'd appreciate a larger screen. I have a spare bluetooth keyboard I could use in this configuration. Thanks

I've been looking at monitors by Samsung and Dell so far, but I guess there are better options?

 

Look at the Asus MX239H for FHD or have a look at the Acer H257U, scan has it for £239 and it's a 1440p monitor but pretty awesome IMO...

 

Hi i installed prema mod, and reverted to stock bios from prema site. But the stock bios i installed is something different from what SAGER gave me initially.

And its not playing good with my clover with the same settings i used with sager BIOS.

Can anyone tell me, how can i flash original SAGER BIOS. with the SAGER LOGO

Thanks

 

Hey the maskofwraith, email our service department for a copy of the latest bios for your machine.

 

Hey Meaker, can you send me a copy of the latest bios/firmware for the P651SG-A? I hope it can help some of my bluescreening in w10.

 

This is to fix that Broadwell crash problem (it's stock apart from the fix):

https://biosmods.wordpress.com/p6xxsg-a/

 

That or again email in the service guys, it's up to you

 

Already did, but no reply??

 

Anyone here using a SAMSUNG 950 PRO M.2 ??

 

Nope - but i'm interested in experiences with That device also

 

Does this laptop even support NVME SSDs in the first place?

 

It does not with the stock bios and too my knowledge Prima has not added support yet, if they ever will


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M.2 drives seem to have a lot of problems with overheating & then throttling & low performance, they're also more expensive than 2.5" SSD's - see the following thread (is just one of them): http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/nvme-ssds-not-all-theyre-cracked-up-to-be.788103/
I've specifically heard that the 950 Pro can overheat too, if you've got a standard 2.5" slot then I'd just get a large capacity & cheaper 2.5" SSD.

 

Ah yes, the 950 Pro was s NVMe one - That will not be supported by BIOS. Was thinking the 950 Pro is also available as SATA - ok, is someone using a SATA SSD with PCIe in the Laptop? How does it work?

 

Indeed... The 950 pro won't work.. The SM951 AHCI version will work though!

 

If anybody ever gets the SM951, just remember to get the AHCI version as there is an NVMe version. Just be sure to check for that before purchasing.

 

Good that overheating myth is confirmed. I read that few posts about it. Too bad this laptop does not support NVMe. That would be just wonderful/phenomenal.

BTW is there a list where people posted 980m gpu overclocks.

 

I find it hard to believe that m.2 SSDs overheat on regular use. I've my laptop botting for 24 hours and it did not in anyway throttle GPU, CPU, or SSD. Maybe if the user is constantly writing to the SSD then that may cause overheating.



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Under regular or small file transfer use no, it's large sustained transfers where you may see a drop but even then it's not huge and still faster than SATA III.

 

Check this thread:

https://tapatalk.com/shareLink?url=...eads/776542/&share_tid=776542&share_fid=33462
Average 980m overclock?