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No, it does not seem to be necessary. As long as you never install XTU components of CCC you should be ok. If you did, and want to revert to the way things were before, uninstall CCC and do an nvram reset. Worked fine for me without a full format.

 

Use this utility to install the CCC. The build it downloads does not have the XTU components. It also helps you easily install and update your drivers. This was the only way I could successfully update the trackpad driver, as the version that was installed with Windows had a bug that would cause occasional blue screens.

 

This the right spot for P670HS as well? Doesnt seem to be a separate thread for the 17" HS like there is for 15".

Anyways, my EVOC P670HS will be arriving tomorrow from Hidevolution Cant wait to fire it up!

 

Hey thanks, the nvram reset after uninstalling the old version definitely seemed to help.

 

its odd about the complaints of the BSOD with trackpad, have never had that issue. havent had a single crash with my clevo, been remarkably stable, other than the time i bricked my first one trying to update the BIOS within windows... wont try that again.

 

I don't know how to undervolt. I just called eluktronics and asked them how but they told me to instead change the max. processor state in power options to 95%, which stops the cpu from going into turbo. If this doesn't work could someone link or describe the process of undervolting? I have the new kaby lake processor and the p670hs-g btw

 

its extremely easy to undervolt actually, you can check on google by your processor on from where to start , not to waste much of time,.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/

 

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Did any one had touch pad problem on their devices ? i have P670RS-G , and sometimes its ok , but now last few days almost every time it goes to hibernate after being unplugged from power source more often but now it happened even without that, when its powered on, touch pad does not work, the only think to make it work is full shut down , ( does not always help) or nvram reset ( always helps)

also have latest drivers from obsidian and latest bios

 

If it does not show even in device manager the controller could be having issues and be a hardware issue.

 

with a difference in core temps, how much is too much? i glance at hwmonitor at times and one or 2 cores is like 10 degrees higher than the others. it usually stabilizes in a few seconds to within 2 or 3 degrees difference, but i wonder if its a heatsink problem or just a CPU lottery thing.

for instance, with prime95 ( i know its not a normal usage of a PC, but im just using it as a test),

core 0:85C
core 1: 73C
core2: 86C
core3: 75C

i did repaste it some time ago with some arctic silver 5 i had lying around ( i know not the best but figured better than the stock paste..) and i made sure to use a small amount.

 

Yea so extremely easy it took me 30min of reserach to find out how to actually use the program with hundreds of settings. I went into FIVR and undervolted -150v hit apply and my temps are now even higher! Am I doing something wrong? If its so easy you could take 5 sec to explain. Getting 95c cpu and 88c gpu temps playing battlefield for less than an hour. This is bad. I thought you guys said this comp runs cool. I probably won't be able to return it since I'm past 30 day period. Feeling very frustrated right now

 

Could be a bad thermal paste job... or stock factory paste. What is your ambient temperature? What temps do you get just browsing the web etc?

 

What were your original light and gaming temps?

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no it shows up in device manager :/

 

just to double check you sure you did minus (-) not plus (+) ? because temps would go up if you increase voltage and not decrease

 

Is there a driver error in device manager?

 

i will have to encounter this problem again than will check, but as i remember no, as first time when i noticed this problem i started from reinstalling drivers tried updating etc. and the only thing than helped was nvram reset.
now sometimes helps when i fully shut down pc

this only happens when pc is woken up from hibernation and not always

 

today again have this issue, checked device manager and it does not show any errors. i have checked event log and found no errors also,


i found only old error almost 2 months ago and it looks like this :
Device ACPI\SYN1219\0 had a problem starting.


- System
- Provider
[ Name] Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-PnP
[ Guid] {9C205A39-1250-487D-ABD7-E831C6290539}
EventID 411
Version 0
Level 2
Task 0
Opcode 0
Keywords 0x4000000000000000
- TimeCreated
[ SystemTime] 2017-01-13T15:12:33.782064700Z
EventRecordID 476
Correlation
- Execution
[ ProcessID] 4
[ ThreadID] 5884
Channel Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-PnP/Configuration
- Security
[ UserID] S-1-5-18
- EventData
DeviceInstanceId ACPI\SYN1219\0
DriverName msmouse.inf
ClassGuid {4D36E96F-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}
ServiceName i8042prt
LowerFilters
UpperFilters
Problem 0x18
Status 0x0

 

I am not at my comp but I think its 40c while browsing but it occasionally shoots to 60c

 

What are light temps? Its always been pretty high. Battlefield was upper 80s now its in the low 90s. Overwatch was always hitting 90s. Am I the only one with these kind of temps?

 

This model does have good temperatures.
If your laptop is throttling and under-performing you should contact your point of purchase.
This should be taken care as something under the warranty, if it´s not working good just ask for support.

 

Hey guys I was wondering if Gsync is capped at 75hz as the laptop panel has a refresh rate of 75. Thanks

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I am also noticing my mousepad not working sometimes. I'm too busy trying to get my temps down to focus on that right now though

 

yes that is right.
75fps cap

 

Typo. Light tasks (browsing) and gaming

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Have you tried OCing the laptop panel?
What is the highest #hz you can OC it to?

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Depends on the panel in your specific notebook. I've gotten mine to 90 Hz - haven't tried higher, but I know people with other laptops have gotten theirs to 100.

 

i would not oc monitor as its bad for it.

i am quite fine with 75fps dont want to risk monitor for that

 

Depends on the panel, most are fine with OCing.

 

Is anyone running BIOS 1.05.07? I see it listed on the Obsidian website. I'm running the Sager flavor of this laptop. I'm running Sager BIOS 1.05.06LS2 (recent update), using the latest drivers provided by the Obsidian driver tool, and I'm finally having a really stable system.

 

Emphasis mine. Then there is no reason for you to update your BIOS. There are only two instances you would want or need to do so, at least on a Clevo laptop. The first is to fix a specific issue you might be having. I'm using the XMG 1.05.07 BIOS, which fixed some problems I was having with the MSHybrid graphics mode, as well as made the fan curves more tolerable. Unfortunately, it has another problem with discrete graphics mode, which I've detailed with video evidence here. It's not a deal-breaking issue but one I would like to see rectified, at least some time. The second case where you would want to update is that you purchased your system from a Prema partner shop and the BIOS he's developed has been released. The one for the P6XXRS is hopefully coming sooner rather than later, as I received an email asking if I wanted to beta test it. I've not heard back (this was about a week ago), but I'm looking forward to trying it. Now this is a moot point if you didn't buy your system from a Prema partner reseller.

 

I have the same issue as what I've read you have. I just keep it in discrete, and don't let it sleep. Hardly ideal, but close enough.

Used a Prema BIOS in my last Sager, and loved it. What do you mean by 'Prema partner reseller'? I'm really hoping to get my hands on the Prema BIOS for this laptop, when it is available.

 

https://biosmods.wordpress.com/partner/

 

Will the reseller tell you when it's released, or do you have to ask?

 

It probably depends on he individual reseller. They should contact you. It that doesn't necessarily mean they will.


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So I think I'm a minority here in that I have the p670hs with the new kabylake processsor 7700hq. Even in idle with nothing open, the processor is constantly in turbo mode fluctuating from 3300 - 3800 ghz with temps around 40c shooting to 60c occasionally. Turing the power option maximum performance setting to 80% plugged in did nothing even though eluktronics claimed this is the correct way to undervolt. I finally followed this link for how to undervolt - http://www.ultrabookreview.com/10167-laptop-undervolting-overcloking/ - I tried doing this at -1.5 like before and after not seeing much of a temp change the comp crashed. Before I decided to try that again, I just uncheck turbo mode in throttlestop. This reduced my temps by a decent amount (10-15c) but doesn't stop the spiking to high temps in the 90s. Tonight I will try discrete graphics setting. If this doesn't help drop the temps out of at least the 90s, I'll be returning this comp to eluktronics. I don't want to reduce the performance of my computer just to be able to use it...

 

I would use task manager to see what is hogging the CPU in the background.

 

I was having weird CPU spikes after one of the major Windows updates. Turns out MS added some additional telemetry thing. Stopping the service and deleting it using some console commands remedied it.

 

Well I bought my Sager from one of those, so I guess one will be available through them sometime. There has been some love lost in the buyer/re-seller relationship so maybe this will be a chance to improve that. Nice to see sellers officially supporting Prema.

I used SpyBots Beacon program to disable a lot of the extra telemetry stuff.

 

As meaker pointed out, could you post the apps utilizing CPU in idle?

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It even does this stuff on battery which is so annoying.

 

Do you have a link for this?

 

CPU usages isn't going above 3% - you can see its constantly at 3800mhz. Just getting onto this website and uploading this pic the core temps went up to 59c (not sure if thats normal though)

 

Just received my new P670HS today. I havent tried using TrottleStop yet but, on base settings my CPU temps are hitting 90C already while playing For Honor for 15 min. I opted for the IC Diamond paste option so this concerns me. Should it? That seems kinda high for a dust free system thats brand new.

I guess Im worried it wasnt really done when building, and since there is no way to really check... etc

GPU only got up to 78C

Thoughts @Phoenix @Galm ?

 

Has anyone had any success in tweaking the fancontrols with other software then the default control center?
There is this kind of "middle" throttle thing that i would like to try to avoid because the sound is annoying as hell. (It makes this kind of constant wooooooooo sound, where the lower sound is virtually unhearable en the higher speeds make a lot less annoying whoosh sound, even though it's louder)
(P670-RS)

 

the benefit is not that great to risk

 

I had the same problem when i first got mine (P670RS-G + Intel 6700hq), I was hitting 99C when stressing the CPU causing it to throttle. I contacted the shop i got it to see if replacing the thermal paste myself would void my warranty, it didn't so I stuck some fresh thermal paste on the CPU and GPU which dropped the heat to about 80C under 100% load of about an hour. I noticed the thermal paste the shop had put on the CPU was uneven, it looked like an air pocket had formed when they applied the paste so half of the CPU had a very thin, dry layer of paste, the other half was fine. The GPU's paste was fine but you still have to replace it once you take the heat sink off.
If you are going to do this yourself, I strongly recommend having a quick look at the service manual, you will find it with google (there's 1 in this thread for the p670RS-G somewhere)


Also, I dropped the voltage of the CPU by 160mv (any lower caused it to crash) which shaved a few degrees off too. To do this, use Intel XTU, just keep dropping the voltage by increments of -20mv starting at about -80mv, stressing the CPU after each increment (with a either a game or prime95). When the system crashes, Intel XTU will reset the voltage back to normal, just put it back to the setting before the one that crashed it. I was told that most 6700HQ CPUs will be able to go down to -150mv, I'm not sure if your 7th gen CPU will be different though, its all about trial and error, there's no chance of damaging anything from an undervolt.

 

Check control center, if it's set to performance mode, it will force your CPU to run at max turbo even at idle. As for hitting 60C from browsing, that's a bit high, basic internet browsing shouldn't really affect temps as long as your vents are clear. A good way of telling if your thermal paste needs to be redone is by stressing the CPU and watch how fast the temps rise, they should jump up from 35C to about 65C (for example) when going from idle to 100% load then slowing increase to a max of about 80C. If you temps just jump from 35 to 80+ then you probably need to redo the thermal paste. Of course, everyone's setup is slightly different but make it a rule of thumb, if your temps instantly jump to near what you think the max should be, its probably your paste.

 

Thanks. Yea that's just not good enough for me though when I paid extra for a service on top of buying from a certain reseller and paying around $200 more than other resellers because of their supposed stellar customer service. Ugh.

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Yeah I know where you're coming from, failing to apply thermal paste on the first attempt can happen to anyone that spends all day applying the stuff but when you buy £2000 worth of custom built laptop you expect it to be thoroughly tested and then thoroughly tested again before it's sent out of the workshop, it takes no longer than 30 minutes to fire up a stress test and get a good idea where your temperature stands.
It's caused by a "can't be bothered" attitude from a lazy engineer which is why I'd rather fix the problem myself.