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    *** Official Clevo P75xDM and P77xDM/Sager NP9758-G and NP9778-G "Batman 2.0" Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by ProFX, May 18, 2015.

  1. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Maybe bro @Mr. Fox Have saved some notes for you. If not, then check out his Youtube channel. Go after years when the model was out. @Prema bios should be the same 770DM-G and 870DM-G. Here is a few videos you can look at.





    See also... http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-p870dm-n00bies-guide.789463/
     
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  2. SierraFan07

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    Thank you @Papusan! I was able to get in touch with @Prema who provided me with the most current BIOS. Now I just need to start researching what is upgradeable on this machine as I'm happy to keep it and just upgrade what I can. Specifically I'd like to know if new WLAN, m.2 SSD, RAM, video card, and better fans are possible, and then find a local company to reapply new thermal paste as I'm not sure I'm comfortable with that part. Currently I have Intel 8620 AC (802.11ac) wireless/bluetooth combo, Samsung MZHPV256HDGL (256GB) m.2 hard drive, 32GB Kingston 2400DDR4 RAM (4 sticks of 8GB), and the NVIDIA 970M. Is there some magical utility out there that will scan your computer and show you what you can upgrade lol?
     
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    1070 mxm cards (from MSI for example) can be modded in, not sure beyond that.
     
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    For what it's worth to anyone who may still be looking to upgrade, here are the choices I have made based upon my initial review of what I believe is upgradeable. And yes, I am aware some/all of these upgrades may offer negligible benefits but lets just say I need to make some purchases for a tax write off :) .
    Hard Drive: Samsung 970 EVO Plus
    RAM: Crucial Ballistix 32GB (2X16GB) DDR4-3200
    WiFi/BT: Intel Wifi 6 AX200 w/ BT. 5.2
    Video card: Nvidia 980m
    Laptop cooler: ? Not sure yet, the market is absolutely saturated with products so I'd love suggestions.
     
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    bennyg Notebook Virtuoso

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    Is someone able to point me to a good from-scratch setup guide for the P750DM?

    Got no brightness control and some sleep resume issues, mouse pointer disappearing, fairly typical stuff, on a clean reset of 20H2 update Win10.

    I picked up a max spec P750DM with "gtx 890m" off ebay recently for a good price (always great for bidding in a vacuum when sellers typo their item names) while I rebuild the P870DM3 watercooling and heatsink, this is also a Metabox so Premabios will be on the horizon. It does need a new keyboard but if that's all I'm pretty happy
     
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    razor0601 Notebook Evangelist

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    So I read on Page 500 That a Quadro P4000 runs in a P770dm. I have a P771DM-G with Dsanke Bios and an I9-9900T ES installed. This P4000 will also work in here and maybe also an RTX 3000/4000?
     
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    The heatsink holes position on the RTX 3000 (non quadro) cards are different.
     
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    razor0601 Notebook Evangelist

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    You mean These cards?
     

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    MrBorsky Notebook Enthusiast

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    All 10xx series will work and will be plug and play (Except 1080, and except Zotac and Aetina versions), All Pxxxx Quadro's will be plug and play (P3000/P3200/P4000/P4200/P5000/P5200).
    But RTX3000/RTX4000/RTX5000 will be incompatible due to different from standard MXM (f.e. 980M) GPU die placement (Check photo of the RTX3000). Say thanks to engineering department of HP MXM GPU's, all RTX3000/RTX4000/RTX5000 are from HP.
     

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    The GPU die is not so different out of range like you Said. The only problem I think is to build a bracket to hold the card in its position and maybe modifying the Heatsink. I would test it again, but the HP RTX cards are not cheap enough. I installed an RTX 3000 in my old AW18.
     
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    MrBorsky Notebook Enthusiast

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    If you have 3D Printer, like cheap Ender 3 or it's clone, then you dont have problems with building a bracket for GPU. Main problem - heatsink, since you definitely need to resolder it.
     
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    Tentenkun Notebook Consultant

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    lmao sorry guys, didn't notice I posted in the wrong thread
     
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    Hi, i just wanna inquire about what possible component might be the issue in my P750DM.
    Yesterday morning i was about to join a zoom meeting but i saw my own webcam video footage had random wide horizontal stripes running along my video camera image. I had a virtual background in place but it was not affected, just my overlaid camera image. I went on to my msi afterburner graphs and saw there was minimum load on the gpu so i suspected that wasn't the problem. The cpu was the one very active. I did a reboot but nothing changed.

    When i did a repaste a a visual inspection, nothing seems out of the ordinary. When i powered on i got a POST screen but the load time was extra long and never got into windows. Upon a restart, my screen went totally blank but keyboard lights are on, fans are on, other lights were on but no LCD backlight. I tried reseating the GPU, RAM, CPU, SSDS but nothing changed, even removed the CMOS battery and BIOS reset to default but screen remains blank after power on. I could control max fans with FN+F1 but still no post.

    What could be the problem?
     
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    I have a P771DM-G with an 980m MSI GSYNC. When I installed all in uefi it works very well. In legacy I have the same Problem. Maybe that‘s the solution?
     
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    I can't even enter the bios, it's as if there's no GPU installed. Could that be the problem?
     
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    I have a Clevo 980m also here. With various VBios versions there is also a black screen and sometimes the fans are spinning at 100%. System thinks no gpu installed. After 4/5 times of starting, then it works. But next time same procedure. In my case I think it has something to do with the Dsanke Bios.

    if you have another Laptop with optimus, try installing your GPU there.
     
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    Thanks for the replies! I don't know what would have caused it though, It used to work fine. Could it really be the gpu or something else? Iam also considering that some remnants of my liquid metal TIM could could have gotten somewhere it isn't supposed to, but there are no obvious signs of that as far as my eyes can see even after removing my CPU and GPU. Could it be the memory?
     
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    Tried reseating and rearranging but no improvement
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Liquid metal could have shorted something if it got out.
     
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    That's what i'm afraid of, i just hope it's not something major
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Unfortunately there is a lot of stuff on the board that will kill it if it goes.
     
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    Did you have areas around the board taped off, conformal coating, or covered with nail polish? Or setup a dam system around CPU to keep LM from escaping?

    Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk
     
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    Probably not, those are certainly helpful to beginners.
     
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    Agreed. I would certainly consider myself a beginner so when I used LM for the first time just about a month ago I took every precaution I could find from the internet prior to application. There is no doubt it makes the most difference in temps, but is also the most dangerous.

    Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk
     
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    WAY more dangerous indeed.
     
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    I hear there are laptop manufacturers actually applying LM now. I'd be interested to see how they do that as they are obviously comfortable enough to apply it and then ship it without any issues.

    Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk
     
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    Yes actually, i had some high temp electrical cloth tape and some kapton tape on some areas. My problem is the terrible contact patch of the cpu heatsink to my pure copper cpu IHS (aftermarket). My Conductonaut seems to dry out every now and then so i needed to repaste quite often. cleaning has been difficult when LM dries out, some bits may have reached a few places it isn't supposed to (as i've looked at it macro through a reversed camera lens) i hope it's just the main board, i found a replacement on aliexpress at 295 usd
     
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    With barriers usually.
     
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    would you guys say this is a motherboard issue? would a motherboard replacement fix this? or could the cpu or gpu be damaged as well?

    I'd be adding more barriers in my future repasting for sure, this has been quite a learning experience.

    thanks for your replies!
     
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    Unfortunately I'm not knowledgeable enough to know, but I do know that if the right thing got fried then sure, it has the potential to burn up the CPU/GPU and just about any other components. Only way I know to tell is to put the CPU/GPU onto another board and see if they work, then you'll know what was actually damaged. From what I've read, unless the LM got onto any exposed Pins or contact points on the CPU/GPU then usually the damage is limited to just the motherboard.

    Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk
     
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    i also wanna inquire, would my 980m work on a p750tm? i'm considering getting the upgrade package since my CPU could be affected, looking to get a cpu with a much higher single core performance as well as i use it for BIM.

    i understand that the 980m has a mxm 3.0b form factor while the p750tm accomodates mxm 3.1
     
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    The TM has a different expected core position.
     
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    Got this, perhaps i'd be better off just getting the DM repaired than upgrade. Does anyone know also if there's gonna be a 15 inch clevo with replaceable gpu and desktop 11 series CPU, like a current generation version of the P750TM? The x170 is way too big and expensive,
     
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    There isn't one now and I wouldn't think there will be, but @Meaker@Sager would know better since he's a reseller. I'm afraid that full desktop replacements are going the way of the dinosaur and may eventually go extinct. The market goes where the $ is and that is definitely the thin and light, long battery life, nice screens, and RGB lighting laptops. One can always hope but I think the writing is on the wall and if desktop replacements do survive it will be limited customization and expensive.

    Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk
     
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    sad but that is very likely. I think among the biggest limitations are cooling and power delivery (battery life and power brick output). after the pandemic, more perople will be working in coffee shops again, i do hope we still get that upgrade.
     
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    No signs of 15 inch model going forward that I can see. (I don't get all the info so I can speculate with everyone bear in mind).
     
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    Just a quick update:

    my p750DM-G is alive again! the 6700k was damaged and had to be replaced. Fortunately i found a cheap replacement in our local facebook marketplace, and got it the same day i brought home my laptop. The good thing about these desktop replacements is that you can test them with the new parts on site, and i found a 6700k gem.

    the 6700k i found was bought in Germany by an American and was being sold locally here in the Philippines by a Filipino like me. It tested on site with no problems, not delidded. So i immediately got home, and repasted with conductonaut making sure to build dams and tape protection and i was able to OC to 4.6 stable with no voltage offset. The delid tool i ordered arrived today and repasted, covered the essentials with kapton tape as well as the socket, and conductonaut all the way. I'm currently running 4.7 with no voltage offset, stable. havent really done a stress test but everything is looking good! with some voltage offset i'm guessing this could probably get up to 4.9. I feel blessed after a time of such uncetainty. thanks to all for your replies!
     
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    It's rare for the CPU to go but at least it's back up and running :)
     
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    Hey all,

    I sold my P775DM3-G to a friend about a year ago but now he seems to be having display issues (flickering, white screen). It's the model with a 4k screen and a GTX 1060 with gsync enabled. Since he lives very far now all I've been able to do is diagnose very shallow and my friend isn't very tech savy. So far we've noticed that if you gentle tap this connector:
    https://i.imgur.com/PXoWLtN.jpg the screen warps and bends a lot and sometimes works again. From what I've gathered this is an 8p to 9p GPU power connector. I have been able to find one for about 35 euros but before we actually go ahead and replace it I wanted to know if anyone has ever experienced an issue with this?
    On a side note, wouldn't the system work with this connector fully disconnected, doesn't it draw it's power from the MXM slot?
     
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    Check the connection on the back of the LCD is properly seated. Does an external display work ok?

    That cable is as required as cards with 8 pin pcie cables need theirs. Different power planes.
     
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    Thanks for your reply!
    He managed to take the screen off and the LCD cable itself seems totally fine. It's still really stuck and he can move it without the screen warping.
    I tried getting him to test an external screen but the poor guy doesn't even have a tv to try.
    I see, was hoping I'd be able to test without the cable but oh well.
    I'll urge him to take the laptop somewhere to test out an external screen but he's afraid to even move the laptop at this point. I'll keep you updated.
     
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    Yeah it's the easiest way to test if it's an internal hardware or connection issue. He could get a cheap external monitor somewhere, it's nice to have an external display for some stuff.
     
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    Sorry it took so long, he finally sourced an external screen. The external screen works totally fine, so it has to be non gpu related. I'd have to test the laptop screen and internal cables again. In attachment you can see how it looks like.
     

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    Yep, both motherboard and back of the LCD need checking for the cable connection. Then I'd assume the panel and if that does not work the cable itself.
     
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    Hello, I have bought a Clevo P775DM1 laptop. Well, not a laptop yet to be honest. It's all empty and I need parts for it. I know the CPU that I can use, probably going for i7 6700. But before I invest in everything I want to test it, if it's working at all. So I was planning to buy or find some old MXM card locally that fits the size, will it work? How can I know which MXM GPU is supported?

    P.S. I found a used GTX 965m for cheap, will it work with this model?
     
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    Try to either post in a thread or keep it in your own, that will keep answers together.
     
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    MXM 3.0B GTX965m is supported. Only vBIOS is the last part to be tested or flashed.
     
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