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@ajc9988 Thank you for the info. Also since you are a Proud member of the 5.0GHz and counting club

What was your highest stable clock speed with full load?

 

Depends on the processor. I just bought hotrod717's golden 4790k and I have a lot of mods. Expect, if you perform all mods, 4.5 for every day use, 4.8 max for thermals at room temp (no avx at 4.8).

Edit: rationale on the driver opening up, they over produced the non g-sync and have a crap load of inventory they can't move!

 

i was under the same impression, i even wrote clevo.de directly an email but they didn't reply to date and i sent the mail about 1 week ago.

i really really hope so but why didn't they just sent me an email back with the drivers i don't know but i think they wrote the mail even angrily back to me like "maaaan this guy again and he's STILL asking about that ****".

 

NDA or just supposed to be quiet about it...

 

clevo.de is the service center so unless you bought a GPU from them directly they won't be in a position to help - neither will Clevo in Taiwan. Not to come across as saying it isn't their probm so deal with it - just that you System Integrator or reseller should be the one answering these type of questions

 

guess gsync will then stays a dream then R.I.P Gsync but still you didn't answer the question about the absolute need of the 1617 980M, so i guess you know something too

 

Any 1 has info about 4k screens in P771DM-G? 4k screen mounted in P870 is damn awesome with this adobeRGB color space...
Is 4k screen even possible in P771DM-G? Or rather not?

 

Yes, the same screen can be used when it becomes available (going off dimensions), unless it requires an unsupported cable.

 

If i remember correctly, it was @XMG who said that the 4k AUO wouldn´t be available on the P7xxXMs due to it´s circuitry being positioned in a way that makes it impossible to physically fit the frame. The P870DM on the other hand was designed accordingly. EDIT: and the P775DM, obviously.

 

Who's your reseller?

 

How long does it takes for you to shutdown laptop with UEFI enabled?
It works weird in my case. With UEFI enabled it boots really fast, but when I shutdown windows and display turns black, its leds continue blinking for half a minute before powering off.
With UEFE disabled it is the opposite: boots way longer but shuts down almost instantly.

 

Hmmm.... I'd love to have this confirmed, because I planned on upgrading the mb and display...

 

Any idea why my powered usb port doesn't seem to charge when the laptop is off?

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Picked this up on late September from MYSN/XMG site (translated from german): "There are so far only a single notebook display with 4K resolution in 17.3 "called AUO B173ZAN01.0. This panel is based on a novel design in which the control Eletronik (which has always been found on the display back) now extended underside of the panels. There is currently no reason to believe that in the future a 17.3 "display is to come in the classic design on the market. The new design is not compatible with the display lid of the XMG U706. The Panel AUO B173ZAN01.0 is therefore currently offered by us exclusively in the XMG U716 whose display lid is specially designed for this new panel design. "

U706=P771DM

 

I do believe that the u716 is actually the p775dm model.

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Yes, but the point here is the incompatibility of the AUO 4k with the current DM's (P771/0).

 

The DM is likely to use Sharp, for their 4K 17" display rumor is end of Dec, sharp is taking a while on this one.

 

Are there any particular advantages with the 17 inch clevo laptop over the 15 inch? beside the larger screen

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Colorado on state.
Don't have Skylake, had to upgrade and got the zm. If you get a good 6700k, the temps seem roughly the same. You might get an extra 100mhz for every day ops (which also has an average of 7.5% ipc) with all mods. So that should give you an idea. But other than that, can't give specifics.

 

Better sound, it has a subwoofer
Overclockable screen
Lower temperatures on the keyboard and palm rest

Other than that, not much.




Has anyone managed to update the nvidia drivers yet? I can't. Do you figure a BIOS update will help with that?

 

Got it, thanks!

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What's the problem of updating nVIDIA drivers on a Clevo? I am not aware of this, please explain

 

Current gsync enabled gpus, having different ids, cannot be updated using nvidia drivers directly. We are currently using clevo provided drivers, a tad older.

You can always mod them with the corresponding hw id in the inf file.

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Oh darn, even the latest 358.87 Drivers cannot be installed? These were just released a couple of days ago.

I don't know how to mod a driver to add the ID or what ID I need to add anyway

 

Thats the reason why me and probably many other people are watching this topic, hoping to see any kind of information that clevo and /or nvidia are actually doing something to fix this.

u can try to modify and download drivers from http://laptopvideo2go.com/drivers (in search terms put "1617" and "75031558", they are for 980M-Gsync as far as my web browser saved it correctly, but its about time to not to force people to do such things for stuff they paid (P7xxDMs are on market for some time now) . If u download only modified .inf, u need to unpack drivers of that version and replace factory inf with modified one, at least thats how i did first time (u can also download whole modified package).

in order to install modified drivers u must reboot to special win10 mode and allow your pc to install drivers without digital sign or something. Without it drivers wont work . It took me some time to find this information
Here u got some help http://www.howtogeek.com/167723/how...8.1-so-that-you-can-install-unsigned-drivers/

 

The P750DM has no subwoofer and the P770DM has one? Didn't know that.
The P750DM has an overclockable screen, it's not a benefit of the 17" model over the 15"
Is this also proven?

 

Currently, most, if not all shipped 750/1 are equipped with an LG screen that does only 60hz with no going over.

Yes it is gsync certified, as Prema, also mentioned in a post over at techinferno.

I do believe there is also a 75hz screen for the 15" model but nobody said they got it so far.

Gonna look for that post on TI.

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yep, the subwoofer thing was the same on the ZM series as well.

both sport overclockable screens due to the lack of switchable graphics, ymmv depending on the screen ure sporting.

i highly doubt that temps would differ, both on outside and inside, since both machines have identical innard dimensions, just that the chassis is "thicker" to make up for the extra space. also, temps are more dependant on hardware, ambient temps, load on hardware, paste job, cleanliness of venting system, etc. rather than the form factor in this case

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Nvidia usually take a little while to add in new hardware IDs to the driver stack.

 

My P771DM hard drives is a killer ! Each disk that I put inside starts to make noise

 

All HDDs will make noises, how are you handling the machine when in use, if you rock it back and forth, the lateral force on the platters can be very bad for them.

 

All the drivers listed for the these machines are supposedly Windows 10, some work OK in 8.1, some not. I've since found out that the Touchpad drivers are 'signed', (if that's the right word) for Win 10 only.

Win 8.1 didn't install anything other than a 'default' driver and when I tried to update driver using WIndows Update, it says best driver is already installed.
Did try to install an older 8.1 driver from Synaptics, but that wouldn't install either, apparently down to a digital signature issue from what I can gather.
TBH, all I really want to be able to do is vertical scroll, not that bothered about the other features.

Is anybody else using Win 8.1 on the P771DM-G and if so, what drivers are you using for the touchpad, Airplane mode and the Control Center?

I'm thinking maybe the drivers for the P771ZM(-G) would work?

Thanks.

 

Forgive me if I've missed this. Does anyone know if the P775 will have a 4K monitor option? If so, I'd want to game in 1080p and just use 4K for movies.

Will I be able to use the monitor settings to scale gaming to 1080p, or can I only scale it through GPU settings (which tend to make it blurry)?

Thanks,

 

Pretty much all reviews I've read show that, with identical specs, the 770 runs a bit cooler (and has cooler surface/keyboard temps) than the 750. The extra space in the chassis seems to drop temps by a few degrees C.

The 770DM uses the same 17" LG IPS panel that is used on almost all 17" laptops that use IPS, since it's currently the only FHD G-SYNC approved panel, not to mention the only IPS (or IPS-type/wide viewing angle) 17" display panel I know of. I know others are in the process of being approved (mostly from AUO/Samsung) but currently LG is the only FHD G-SYNC game in town, and the only 17" FHD IPS option.

All the panels advertised as 75Hz on 17" laptops are just this LG panel factory OC'd by the OEMs. It appears that the 17" LG over-clocks better than the 15" based on what I've read.

 

There's no dedicated monitor settings, but Nvidia control panel allows you to choose what handles the scaling. Don't know if it makes any difference. Honestly i don't notice any blurring when gaming unless i place my laptop next to my desktop display.

 

Do you think overclocking it from 60Hz to 75Hz is safe and won't kill the screen with time?

 

Well, the OEMs do it and its the spec NVIDIA wants for G-SYNC, so I'm assuming it should be safe. But don't take my word for it.

 

Ok, thanks!

 

no worries about overclocking refresh rate on screens. personally, ive never seen even one single verified report of a screen dying due to refresh rate overclocking ive already used 50%+ display ocs for several years without any hiccups whatsoever. its way more likely that ur gpu/battery/psu/hard drive is failing on you than an overclocked screen

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I have the Batman part 2 (p750dm-g) and it is absolutely wonderful so far. It came about a month after the order with free ups shipping which was the toughest part waiting, thankfully this time I had the time to wait since it was not an emergency purchase. Any laptop you order online via the company like dell hp clevo sager ect involves a wait time vs going to the store and buying one. However, going to the store will not get you laptops like these I tell you .

The machine booted up and I Installed several OS on it including windows 7 and 10 with no issues. The sager website has the drivers for other windows now so installing them was no prob using a boot usb. I have the i5 6600k and it is very powerful compared to what i had before. The nvidia 980m is insanely powerful and I doubt I will need to upgrade it for years to come. I plan on using tb3 for multi monitor and to connect a desktop gpu like amd fire pro or r9 when docking options become available but again for right now the skylake i5 and 980m are great.

I have tinkered with the xtu and I changed the base ghz on all 4 cores to 4ghz and do a bench and stress test and the machine handled it like a champ giving me 3.99ghz and a cpu temp of 83 deg C, not bad for stock paste but is that normal ?

Anyway thanks to the forum this was a huge jump!

 

I (with my 4690K only) experiences think its kinda hot.
Never went above 73° with 4 cores @ 4,2 GHz with stock settings and paste. But it felt like a good pastejob, since it got worse with my first repasting.

Nevertheless, you should be able to cool it down easily by decreasing voltages.

 

I should mention I'm in the west coast where ambient temps are about 85deg and I did no undervolting, also the fan profile was normal default auto. Did not get a chance to tinker with many things aside from installing multiple os and vm ware. Since you said that I'll try another bench and stress from a cold start and report that thanks kommando.

 

Shoot now I'm stuck :/ I can't make up my mind between the batman 2.0 and the phoenix P870DM

the P870DM Pros:

Extra M.2 slot total of 3 (1 for wireless card, 2 for hard drives)
SLI? if so it should support 4K gaming

Cons:
Thicker, i don't think it looks as good as the batman :/
battery with SLI may only be 45min?
few pounds heavier

I'm so torn between these 2! Help!

 

Given the cost difference, I'm not sure it's really a choice. Either you're ready and willing to pay extra for the 870 or you're not.

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There isn't an extra M.2 slot.
http://www.clevo.com.tw/clevo_prodetail.asp?id=812&lang=en
P770DM-G

 

so the batman has a total of 3 m.2 slots? awesome

Well i don't mind spending the extra money but the biggest draw back from buying the P870DM is it's looks. It doesn't look as cool or as nice as the batman 2.0 it's thicker and just looks bulkier not as appealing so it's a harder decision not being able to see it in person :/

 

They will both have 2 m.2 & 2 Sata. North will have kabylake. The question is sli and battery. For these machines, battery is a backup, you use then plugged in 98% of the time. So get the Phoenix is my recommendation. And get it from a Prema partner! Otherwise, wait till December for the Wingman...

Edit: all of them since zm use an m.2 Wi-Fi. It's not a storage m.2.

 

what do you mean by north, and wingman?
well there is at least one m.2 available for storage correct?
and then one for the wifi.

That's how I understood it

 

Sorry, on my phone. Both!

Edit: 2 m.2 slots for storage. So you can run raid. The third is for Wi-Fi, is under the keyboard, and not made for storage.