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Both are G-Sync compatible, but depends on your region as to whether they ship them. In the case of the P750DM, unfortunately both are 60hz. I've got the 1080p G-Sync panel. Even at 60hz G-Sync is a real winner for tougher titles (ie Witcher3).

Have a look at the NBC page here (great comparisons including the 6820HK Oc'd and 6700K etc) : http://www.notebookcheck.net/Skylake-for-Notebooks-Core-i7-6700HQ-and-i7-6820HK-Review.150864.0.html

I carry the P750DM around a bit and while it's heavy, I'd say it really depends on the bag. Get yourself a good backpack (thick sturdy straps etc) as a regular shoulder/messenger bag won't cut it. I carry the P750DM, cooling pad (deepcool wind pal), brick, mouse, water bottle, various cables, crimping tools etc and it's ok to travel with. Mine is an old Logitech Kinetik backpack (ie, the turtleshell).

It's about 2mm. The keys also have large bevelled edges which makes it seem shallower than it is.

AFAIK it only applies to NVME drives. Boot time on my 950 Pro 256GB is 21 seconds from pressing the button to the login screen. Not brilliant but not too annoying. I think the issue is something to do with the preloading of drivers upon booting. It may be able to be improved in a BIOS update. Alternatively, you could use another cheapy 120/240GB M.2 SATA drive in the other slot and boot off that.

 

Hi there. Thanks for the replies!

The NVME thing is abit of a shame...

About the IGZO displays, Eurocom website shows that they're not G-Sync compatible, and a trawl through Google suggests this as well. I hope they become compatible in the future......

I missed a couple of articles on Anandtech, and I saw that the 6700K could OC to 4.6 GHz pretty well. Now honestly I'm not sure if I need that kind of processing power, so I'm leaning more towards the 6820HK for now. I still have plenty of time to consider my options, so I shall see what the near future reveals.

Hadriel

 

So what are the chances a Kaby Lake will fit in this laptop? Seems to be the same socket but different chipset. Im guessing Clevo will use the same chassis with a new MB for Kaby Lake.

 

Hey!
What do I have to look for in a monitor if I want to keep the G-Sync goodness the 770DM-G has to offer? Is it even possible?

 

Kaby should work with z170.

 

Yup, totally possible. Just buy a G-Sync monitor (one that has the g-sync module).

 

Thanks.
The 980m I got is the G-Sync model, so a G-Sync monitor would be perfect then.
I was kinda hoping it would work via the DP with a non G-Sync monitor, but I guess that makes no sense...

G-Sync monitors are pretty pricey. I ended up going with a AOC G2460FQ. It's a 144Hz non G-Sync monitor. Has a decent TN panel and it makes up for it with the refresh rate. I'm pretty happy with my bang-for-buck decision. Here's my (finally completed) setup:


P771DM-G
Coolermaster Ergostand III cooler
AOC G2460FQ Monitor
Corsair K70 keyboard
Logitech G502 mouse
Steelseries Qck Heavy mousepad
Beyerdynamic DT 990 headphones
Microlab B77 speakers
Creative E5 Amp/DAC
Macbook 12 for work

 

My stock bios (from Korean Clevo Reseller) allows good OC of CPU (4.5 passed linx0.6.4 20times) but doesn't allow memory OC.
I've tried eurocom, xmg, clevo stock bios and these allows memory OC but limits boost TDP < 60w after 3dmark11 or 3dmark benches.

So.. I am thinking of OCing my memory by thaiphoon burner which I've done for DDR3s.
Has anyone succeeded OCing DDR4 samsung ram by thaiphoon burner?
Does the stick allow SPD writings?

 

there is a sort of fix tho, which i still use. Set your multipliers and voltage to your desired values and then start up Throttlestop and i the OC should stick. Reference Link

 

What is this decal or what does it represent?

 

Thunderbolt.

 

Thank you. Appreciate the quick response.

 

Thunderbolt port

 

P750DM is fully hackintoshable! with full performance and all output ports enabled!

 

That's way cool!

 

I just tried to flash my GPU on my P770DM-G (First time flashing) and I am stuck on a screen and worried.

This is all I see and I can't close it, I can't do anything. Please help with what to do and if it flashed or not.




@jaybee83 @Prema @Mr. Fox


EDIT: It did not flash. I followed the instructions and ran the modme.bat but it didn't flash. Is there something I am doing wrong?

 

Did you run it with the batch file he included? Is it the latest version? Older ones needed the card manually disabled to flash properly.

 

That happens sometimes with Maxwell GPUs. It has never caused a problem for me, but it is kind of disturbing and worrisome if you are not aware of the possibility. As long as the flash process is not underway (erasing and writing, which will show on your screen,) you can kill it and start over without any harm. Open Task Manager, kill nvflash.exe and the cmd.exe tasks that are running. Open Device Manager and disable the GPU. Then flash and it should complete without issue. The @PremaMod tweaked version of NVFLASH will normally do it for you, but sometimes it hangs like that. After the flash is finished, re-enable the GPU in Device Manager and reboot. You should be good to go.

 

I did run it with the batch file he included.
It it the latest version of 1.1.1
I may disable the card manually to ensure it works even though it is the latest version

Okay this is very good information to have. I did not disable the GPU in device manager as I just followed the simple instruction of running the batch file.

After I killed the nvflash and cmd I did try it again however it said it was in use and could not access it or something to that effect.
Is it best to manually disable the GPU and flash or allow Premas modified version to run fine and disable it on it's own? (Or are both ways fine?)

Oh one more question, you may have an answer to it Mr Fox. The issue I am having to want to have a modded vBIOS is forced P1 state while overclocked in some games on stock vBIOS. I notice it with even only a 1Mhz OC when entering Blade & Soul, it will enter P1 state with 540Mhz core clock and will stick at that until the GPU is disabled/enabled or machine is rebooted. This happened also after ~2hrs in Dark Souls too. (Perhaps only happens in DX9 games?) I have had no issues with OC's in DX11 games (Black Ops 3, Killing Floor 2, GTA V etc). My GPU is never under full load when the downclock occurs.
Is this an issue Premas vBIOS can fix or is it a nvidia driver issue that I will just have to live with?
EDIT: Please note it is not a thermal issue. On auto fans I cannot make this GPU go above 60C even when looping in Unigine Heaven for an hour with +135Mhz OC it flicks between 59 and 60C

 

@Plur
You should also uninstall your nvidia driver with DDU if you haven't already.

 

I assume this is because of 361.xx drivers sucking?
If so.. I have 359.06 and wont update

 

@Prema or some one with more competence could answer why you need to uninstall video drivers before flashing vbios, i only know it's safer that way.
Read this:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...e-to-the-batcave.767105/page-356#post-9925107
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...773-owners-lounge.768770/page-95#post-9936532

 

Thanks for that information. I had never seen that being talked about before but easily enough to do that before flashing.

 

The drivers hook into the firmware and lock out the interface.

 

Hi,
I have Defiance II from pc specialist (p771dmg). I saw a bios update on xmg for the same model and tried to flash it but i somehow managed to brick it instead!
I followed the instructions in the readme, including running meset but received an "error 18 - secure flash rom could not be initialized" message from afuwinx64. The Intel flash tool completed successfully.
It's a complete brick, pressing the power button makes the hard drive click as it powers on and off, there's no display whatsoever. Pressing Fn+B makes the power led flash orange but the display remains off.
Is there anyway I can bring this laptop back?
I can probably borrow a flash writer for the bios chip if that's of any help? Otherwise I'm really not sure what I can do. I don't think Pc specialist would take too kindly as they don't offer any bios downloads and I'd already have to pay a pretty hefty postage charge.
Any advice would be a life saver.
@Prema @Mr. Fox

Just to add, I've tried a cmos reset. No change.

 

Did you do the update from Windows or pure DOS since you mention afuwinx64?

 

Win 10. With all the tools having Windows counterparts (with gui) included I didn't see the need for a dos environment. Particularly since there's no way to boot dos without disabling uefi boot.
That isn't something I'll be doing again.

 

I myself did the same.
XMG bios made my laptop brick.
Now not even looking at XMG bios any more.

 

What happened to it in the end?

 

I would advise against cross-flashing between different vendors as there can be slight hardware differences between models.

 

Hello.

Is there any 4K LCD that is compatible with the P771DM series? I read something about a sharp panel as the AUO one that is available on the P775 and P870 is physically too big to fit.

 

Something I noticed in the P7XXDM service manual is that the Alpine Ridge (USB 3.1/ Thunderbolt 3) controller is connected with PCIE lanes 5->8 to the Z170 PCH and NOT directly to the CPU. All 16 PCIE lanes from the CPU go directly to MXM3.

What this means for those looking to use the P7XXDM with eGPU, is your eGPU will be sharing PCIE bandwidth with everything else connected via DMI to the CPU. It remains to be seen, but this means you could very well see bottlenecking when multiple PCH devices are stressed simultaneously. In particular, loading from an SSD or maxing out LAN could create this kind of scenario.

Another interesting tidbit: DP1 from the GPU goes through a switch so it can be sent out the Alpine Ridge chipset. DP2 is connected directly to the GPU.

 

Thanks for sharing. I've been looking this info for quite a while. Is there a way to get these service manuals?

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My seller fixed it for me.

 

Does anybody have a good download link for latest Control Center version 0.38 for P75x models?

 

Flashing from DOS exist because sometimes low level stuff needs to be done and GUI DOS is not pure enough(ensures windows drivers aren't initialized and other background stuff won't cause interuption),after meset the computer needs to be reboot,then you call flashme.bat so that it does it business, calling afuwin independently with no other flags is not exactly wise especially if ME/EC other files needs to be updated.
Cross flashing vendor firmware is not recommended but if you follow the vendors instruction you should have no problem,have done several xmg updates and not a single hiccup as yet.

You may need to find out which bios version your pc shipped with so that you you can perform a crisis recovery with it.

 

A pure DOS environment guarantees nothing else is trying to grab any firmware.

 

Thanks, I followed the instructions of running meset (or the Windows based equivalent - which rebooted fine) and then the relevant bat. Why ship the update with the means to flash in Windows if it can't be done reliably? Amiwin wasn't run blindly. There is a bat file for win10 flashing, it seemed to set the same flags as the "pure dos" version. The first few steps with Intel flashing tool ran without incident.

How would I do a crisis recovery? I know what versions it was shipped with, I don't know where to get copies of those or what to do with them after. From what I've heard there should be some display from Fn+R?

 

https://biosmods.wordpress.com/bios-recovery/

http://repo.palkeo.com/clevo-mirror/

If you don't find one which matches the current EC in your system,tell us the version via here or email the vendor .Which vendor do you have anyway?

 

Ah sorry typeo in my last post. It's Fn+B that gives no display. Thanks for the links but I can't access the recovery mode to perform a flash.
I don't know the key pushes to try it blindly if it's working but not displaying anything and I'm not certain on the naming convention for this model. It isn't listed on either site.
Vendor is pc specialist, they don't offer bios downloads but generic would be fine.

 

My inbox fills more and more with reports of BIOS bricks after using random XMG updates...could you please link me to the "exact" files you guys where using, so that I can check what's wrong and inform them in case it needs to be pulled...

 

This is what I used and almost bricked my p751

http://www.mysn.de/driver/XMG/XMG_U506_und_U706/Bios/XMG_U506/

I will find the post explaining the issue and post it. Also I sent you a PM a while ago detailing the horrors I went through. Though I doubt you still have it. It was during the time you said you are on vacation.

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Thanks for the updated vbios!

 

I have a samsung 950pro as my boot drive and two 2.5" inch ssd's . Is there a way to raid the two 2,5" ssd's and atill use the 950 as boot drive?

 

That BIOS has internaly been wrongly re-labeled and is using a base meant for the P775DM model instead of being for P750DM(-G) or P770DM(-G). The signature is also broken...
I am not sure what model name @XMG is using for the P775DM but its a different model.
And just to make sure: P775DM1 is again using a different BIOS, so don't flash it on those systems either.

 

Good to know. Maybe you can reach out to them to pull it out. Lol.

It's amazing I didn't fully brick the laptop though.

 

That would be the same file I used. Interesting that the P77xdm bios aren't cross compatible with the P775dm. Would that explain the "error 18 - can not start secure rom flash" message?
Any tips on how to resurrect my laptop would be greatly appreciated.
What did you go through @myx? I can't see anything much in your post history

 

Check your PM for recovery...

 

That would definitely explain that error. I had the same but I just remembered that I didn't write it on the thread anymore. I was just happy to fix it. In the end, with all the errors and what not, I had managed to flash it with the windows app not the dos one. And, amazing enough, it's working.

AFAIK that laptop is still running that version of the bios. Strange. If @Prema wants to check that particular laptop out, @edit has it.

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I would always check with a site or indeed Prema before flashing bios files you happen to find on sites due to the risks involved. Unless he or your reseller is explicit about it.