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what settings did you use to achieve 4.5 GHz?

please list voltage (adaptive or static), any offsets, IA Current Limit, Turbo Power Max, etc.

 

Easy to fix the issue tho, just use Throttlestop latest beta, and the CPU Ratio should stick.

Edit: Ok looks like TS isn't working anymore, it really seems like the TDP is somehow hardlimited to about 50W, playing GW2 or at least standing in the maincity (Lions Arch) my CPU throttles to 4.1Ghz with about 12-20% Power Throttle, which results in about 42-49w CPU TDP.

Edit2: Ok works now again after some restarts

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While I'm not sure what values will match 970 performance I just ran the Steam VR Performance Test. The results are starting to look promising.

First run (issues)

Spoiler

Specs:
i7 6700k - 4.4GHz
Display running at 100Hz
980M - PremaMod VBIOS
Core 1108MHz (1196Mhz Boost) - +70 Offset
Memory 2505Mhz - Stock

It seems like it's thermal throttling, I'm not sure if this is because of the intensity of VR or the more likely explanation:
My laptop was just returned from an RMA, it's in desperate need of a repaste. GPU is running at 52c idle.

I'll re-run it once I've repasted and let you know some figures

Following repaste

Spoiler

Specs:
i7 6700k - 4.4GHz (Stock BIOS - may be throttling down to 4.0GHz)
Display running at 100Hz
980M - PremaMod VBIOS
Core 1098MHz (1186Mhz Boost) - +60 Offset
+75mV Voltage


I'm sure it can be pushed further but it's quite happy at this point, temps aren't out of hand and it's not breaking much of a sweet.

Previously I've been able to reach Oculus Rift min specs according to FireStike, it was perfectly happy running at these speeds
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/7341140 The clocks shown there should give you some idea of what's needed. (Ignore the P775DM-G naming, this is the P770DM-G)

 

Didn´t know about this test...

Got a good result on my P751ZM. Cpu 4.0ghz@4c and gpu +135core/[email protected] (PremaMod vBios stock voltage). Temps didn´t go above 65c on cpu and 62c on gpu (auto fans).

 

That's a good result. My 980M is a pretty poor clocker.

 

It's good to see the 980m shows up in that VR ready spot, and didn't dip below 90 fps.

 

Current and Turbo Power max .. You dont need to know.
Because those variables should be always maxed for "good" OC.

We or I or You just have to find the sweet "voltage" spot for the clock.
Skylake CPU is one of the easiest and most simple CPU to OC.
Just try to find the voltage.. NVM other things except temperature.

My sweet spot is adaptive -75mv for [email protected] as you know.
Rock stable and OC never fails back to stock clock after or during any test.

 

As I've mentioned several times, stock clevo/xmg bios only allows 53w.
Korean stock bios allows 118w and I am using this to make 6700k run successfully at 4.5.
We really need prema bios for p750dm-g.

 

Your Firestrike score looks as if you didn't OC your CPU.
12xxx for physics is stock score for 6700k.

 

did you ever stress test with AIDA64? That's where the heats starts to go to the 100C range and then throttle. In normal situations, it's fine

 

AIDA is easy test. I mean it loads less stress than linx 0.6.4avx.
Tell me what you want me to do. I will do it right now.

 

Please run AIDA64 CPU Stability and Stress test for 5 mins and have HWiNFO Sensors on the side then show me a screenshot, that should show us what are the max temps and if you are getting thermal throttling on any of the 4 cores.

 

If ThrottleStop can be configured to stop downclocking on stock BIOS that would be a breakthrough. Personally I couldn't get it working reliability at all and I'm inclined to agree that it can't overcome the current BIOS limitations.

You're completely right about my Firestrike score. There's a couple hundred points difference but it downclocks back to 4.0 too quickly to really impact the score.

Still disappointed that I bought from Eurocom for PremaMod and I'm still left without it. I'm just hoping it's only a 3 month exclusive and will be released in the next week or so. Otherwise I guess the next logical thing could be 6 months and the thought of another 3 months of being locked out of my own BIOS makes me sad. It's not just overclocking I want access to.

 

okay doing it now. wait for 5 mins.

 

At least you had a chance to buy premamod. Here in Korea, there is no reseller selling with prema mon on it.
I also really really hope to get prema mod soon.

 

same here, set and forget in the bios would be a dream, i noticed too after i used the latest bios from palkeo static voltage isn't working anymore, i can put it to 1.09v and still get 1.25-1.3v

 

It really wasn't offered, I would have had to ask and pay before purchasing apparently. True I had the chance but I imported a laptop rather than buy locally, so the same options you have! Except now you have local support/warranty and everything you expected. I've just had to pay €100 shipping for an RMA within the first month and didn't get what I thought I was paying for.

@Scerate since you're also in Austria just to ask since I'm new here. I had an incredibly hard time finding a courier prepared to insure my laptop when sending it to Germany for an RMA. I ended up using FedEx since the highest anywhere else would offer is €500. Do you have any experience sending expensive items just incase anything does go wrong again?

 

@Phoenix Okay this is it.
5 min AIDA test. Fan table at "overclocked" and delid (liquid pro inside, gelid extreme outside).

I know my OC is a rock stable OC. My sweet voltage can even bares linx 064avx.
AIDA which only demands 90w for me with -75mv @4.5, it is relatively easier test.
(linx 064avx demands 115+w)


edit : I dont know why hwmonitor says p775 but it is p750dm-g.

 

i have the advantage to send it over my company which uses DPD, never had to RMA a NB tho thankfully.

 

Thanks for the response, DPD wouldn't insure over €520 though that may be since I'm a private individual rather than business.

 

that is insane bro!

I might leave the CLU inside and repaste with GELID Extreme outside tonight

 

What do you mean by liquid pro inside and gelid extreme outside? Are they thermal paste? How do i apply them?

 

He's delidded his processor, that is; removed the heatspreader and the poorly applied TIM (thermal interface material/thermal paste) Intel applied and used Coollaboratory Liquid Pro inside between the die and heatspreader.
He's then using Gelid Extreme between the processor heatspreader and the laptop heatsink.

Liquid Pro is a liquid metal compound, usually applied with a tiny brush supplied when you buy it.
There are various ways of delidding your processor, the gains are substantial but there is risk, both in the process and using liquid pro/ultra over more conventional TIM.

Did anyone ever successfully download Control Center v5.0001.0.38 from the Clevo site?
The few times I tried I had corruption of Data2.cab when downloading from the Asia server and the other servers offered the original version (5.0000.0.16). Now it seems all 3 servers have the original version.

 

So its not adviceable to do? How many degrees are we talking about? Would love a tutorial on this. Oh btw my 770dm will be shipping out by thur or late friday according to larry. So excited but wont be able to get my hands on it as i am flying to Maryland on the 17th of march yet rofl.


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I wouldn't advise you either way. Inform yourself properly of the risks and make a choice. You'll find this very informative http://www.overclock.net/t/1313179/official-delidded-club-guide. Not that different processor generations need different treatment.
The most common method now or at least the safest way is using a 3d printed tool although the "der8auer delid die mate" is pretty safe in terms of getting the spreader off. Though you then still have to deal with applying the liquid ultra/pro for the best results.
It can really be a huge drop; usually between 10c-15c though higher isn't unheard of.
Fantastic news that it's almost on it's way! I'd be itching to get back!

Edit:
Realized that might have sounded a bit stronger than I meant! Basically just saying If advised you to do it and it went south I'd feel terrible, I don't know how comfortable you'd feel doing something like that and if you could afford to fix it should it go wrong. It's a gamble, done right the direct risks are pretty low but depending on your warranty it could invalidate the entire machine rather than just the processor.
Personally it's something I'm considering doing, but not until I've had the laptop a little longer, I figure if anything (else) is going to go wrong it'll be in the first few months or so far down the line the warranty is meaningless anyway.

 

There are of course warranty implications in such modifications to consider too.

 

Exactly, I thought I'd mentioned it in the original message made damn sure it was in the edit!
Out of curiosity where does Sager stand on this?
Would it be the whole machine out of warranty or just the CPU and any damage done during the process?

 

Delid is one of the best way to make CPU temp lower.
Intel has put one of the worst thermal paste inside heatspreader.
That's why most people who OC desktop, delid CPU to make it cooler.

Delid is easy. I've done it only 3 times in my life and 6700k was the 3rd.
My last try was 3770k, I delided it to make it run at 5.0.
If you do it properly, you wont make anything wrong.
I bought the laptop and checked if anything needs to be fixed, then I delid it on the day I bought it .

And as Meaker said, warranty is another thing to consider as well.
In Korea, my laptop is still under warranty except for the CPU.

 

Definitely the CPU, but you may want to check with where you are purchasing the computer, to see if it would void the whole system. Warranty details vary from seller to seller.

 

Hello all, maybe anybody knows, P770DM, P771DM, P770DM-G, P771DM-G is possible to use only IGPU with non-installed DGPU in MXM slot?

And what the max speed thunderbolt is supported? 20gbps or 40gbps in this laptops? What is differents about p770dm and p771dm?

Thanks!

 

From what i understand, it wont post without a dgpu. No idea about thunderbolt


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I send the question about thunderbolt3 to Eurocom (Eurocom X6 model) and I received message - thunderbolt3 in X6 model works up to 40gbps, but xoticPC says about thunderbolt3 on NP9978(Clevo P770DM) his thunderbolt works up to 20gbps. I confused.

If iGPU can't use in this laptop without mxm module - bad news for me.

 

1. iGPU doesn't work.
2. Doesn't TB3 support 40gbps? TB2 supports 20gbps.

 

Why dont you have a dgpu? Did you sell it or buy the machine without one? Is that even possible to get one w out a gpu?


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I need laptop with desktop CPU in mobile chassis for programming(I need to run more than 4 virtual machines and mobile CPU is very different to use this common task). In my task - dGPU is not usable and I do not want pay for dGPU over than $500+, thunderbolt3 with high speed need for plug ~2-3 monitors.

 

You can get the 980m and sell it over ebay so no worries.


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So i found out that the 8gb memory that will is in the laptop is a samsung ddr4. Will it be ok if i get another brand? Also will this work on my machine? http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00TY...s=8gb+ddr4&dpPl=1&dpID=41Vkj6Q5vtL&ref=plSrch


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Yes, I understand it, but my question in previous page: "Is it possible to use only IGPU without MXM dgpu"? - this question the same, if I sell dGPU.

 

this is a desktop memory, you need memory with 260 pins so-dimm

 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B014R...dr4+laptop&dpPl=1&dpID=41iHlt3CTeL&ref=plSrch so this one? Its so much cheaper if i get 2x8gb ram sticks than 1x8gb lol. I just need 16. Any idea where i can grab a cheaper one?


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Yes, this ram is correct. Often 2x8 kit is cheaper than 1x8.

 

The iGPU is completely disabled. You can not run with an MXM dGPU. It can be configured from the factory with a 965M, that would be the cheapest option. It may be worth reaching out to where ever you're looking at buying from and asking if they can supply you with this card.
The thunderbolt 3 is 40Gb/s though there are also two display-ports, and a HDMI out you could use for multi-monitor setup. All are wired directly to the dGPU.

That would be compatible. It's cheaper since it's less dense, it's easier to produce more at half the capacity than it is to make it twice as dense. I know your frustration though!
I would take a look at Newegg, see how their prices compare to Amazons. Search for "DDR4 so-dimm" and filter on the left.

Remember that your remember will run at the speeds of the slowest stick in the bunch, you might be able to overclock it and overcome this though there are no guarantees.

 

Will it be ok if its a different brand from what is currently installed in my system?Found 8gb over at ebay newegg is selling it for 35usd.


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It will work. It's not ideal as the timings can be mismatched but in practice it's unlikely you'll actually run into any issues. I run mismatched sticks in my P770DM.

I found Cruical to be the cheapest DDR4 SO-DIMM when I was looking a couple of months ago. I paid £35 for an 8GB stick.

 

Thank you for the answer. I should waiting when appears the new model on desktop chipset with optimus/enduro.

 

Gskill over at ebay is 34.99 and hyperx at 35.94. I might just get the gskill. The cheapest samsung i found is at 40usd. I am still waiting for larry to send me a pic of the ram


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You wont get one with that configuration soon.
Never have been one yet.


Edit : And moreover, unlike alienwares, old clevo models with optimus even didn't work without dGPU.

 

You may be waiting a while. I'm not aware of any notebook that uses a desktop chipset and also has optimus. Currently it seems the trend is towards G-Sync and it just isn't compatible with using optimus since the dGPU needs a direct feed to the LCD. Personally I'd prefer Optimus over G-Sync too, not just for battery savings but WiDi would be handy.

 

I hope, maybe this laptop announced after CES2016, when AMD and Nvidia announced the new GPU or wait while Intel announced Kaby-Lake.

 

If it's not a problem for you to wait then by all means. I wouldn't hold your breath unfortunately. G-Sync does seem to be gaining some real traction and there's just no way for it to be configured with Optimus without introducing input lag that apparently Nvidia considers too extreme. G-Sync really requires an all or nothing approach and while it's an option on a model it's just not cost effective to have a different motherboard for those that aren't using G-Sync.

There are cheap MXM 3.0b cards out there you might be able use if you aren't needing any iGPU features like QuickSync. You could either buy a barebones and fit your own or sell the supplied card. Something like a 560M looks like it might be compatible with the existing heatsink and can be had for cheap. Though I have no knowledge at all of its compatibility beyond that.

Then again maybe with the renewed interest in eGPUs you'll find what you're looking for in that niche.

Best of luck finding what you're looking for.