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Nothing wrong with wanting a VGA output for connecting to some decade old projectors.

As for battery life, a mux could've allowed the best of both worlds.

 

Very true, however Optimus was asked for, which is just not nice for anyone who's even halfway techie. Some friends with Optimus tell me about issues with it now and then, and the cut-down NCP is not nice either.

Even I wouldn't mind a MUX here though.

 

Well that was good laugh though, now that I"m finally home lemme throw this up and finish up this weeks strip.

 

Just saying not everyone is troll and may have legitimate reasons for wanting something.

 

And you're correct.

 

jaybee what make is that matte 4K, is it Sharp?

Do you know any specs such as colour gamut etc?

 

Oh wait Jaybee btw that 100% color gamut you mentioned that was on a 1080p display correct? Just wanting to verify that I didn't get overly excited for the 4k instead xD

 

mySN.de | SCHENKER XMG | Schenker Technologies - XMG U505 ULTIMATE Gaming Notebook 39,6cm (15.6")

 

oh god the *GASMS* I'm getting.. Gonna afk on this and leave this weeks issue here...thank you for that iaTa <3


*Edit*

Well looks like I broke the maximum size allowed so here's a direct link

NBR WEEKLY ISSUE # 2 "It's JUST business~"


Enjoy~

 

Dear Lord, my faith in tech forums is gone - now where's my p6xx!

 

mysn told me its most probably the same sharp 4k screen as the glare version, just with a matte layer added. but its not written in stone yet, theyll keep me updated once they got the spec sheet themselves

 

Luna - You should start a thread just for this. These are great. I like being a monitor. It keeps me svelte and mysterious.

 

Yes, that helps, i will still go with i5, it looks like some compromise for overheating and still good results in games. It is cheap so i wont feel bad upgrading it to something more powerfull if cooling system will allow it. As for xtreem.pl they will know what type of screen they will get after christmas. Everyone is getting IPS's so i think they will get one too. I actually does not care that much about it as long as it will be better than my Samsung r580 one

 

Jesus this machine is a beast

 

I think you will find software rendering is the way forward, now if you will excuse me I need to go wrap this wire around some magnets to get another 320 words of memory.

 

But I don't know how to delid or repaste so isn't it risky to do for a newbie?
If I don't delid or repaste will it affect heat, throttling etc?
Also if this laptop is purchased from Europe from a reseller how will the warranty work? Will you have to pay to send it and to receive it?

 

delidding guide: Workshop Haswell delidding: improve CPU cooling! | Hardware.Info United States!
itll also be my very first delid, so ill make sure to have the right tools for the job at hand and take my sweet time to get it done

depends on the cpu model you choose, the applications its indended for and also if ud like to oc it or not. its not a MUST in every case per se.

again, it depends. this time on the reseller, if they offer pickup&return / bring-in service for their respective country, for the EU as a whole or maybe even offer an upgrade for international customers...

 

When you de-lid it, can't you just run it naked without putting the metal cap back on, that way heat transfer would be even better if the heatsink was able to make good even contact with the CPU die directly? One down side to doing that I imagine, would be that the heatsink might not make good contact as there is an inherent thickness allocated to the metal cap and the heat transfer glue underneath. (Just hypothesising, don't have experience with de-lidding!) (Afterall, this is how mobile CPU's are run.)

 

I think it would mean removing the metal CPU bracket. Plus being that the heatsink is shared with the GPU it might sit at a funny angle.

Could work though?! Exciting times ahead

 

Aye, just not sure where to, and didn't expect to get into it so much lol. Which section would I even pop this in? I'd end up covering tons of models and daily scenarios here lolol.

Dear god, spent the last hour, getting soda off my keyboard and desk after reading this +1 <3 Meaker xD




As for the P series

Hmm not able to find it on the UK site, since I'm not comfortable ordering in german... I don't have enough anger in my voice to imitate the language ;___; NEIN!!!!!!


Hoping we'll have word shortly from Sager if anything, though I'd be more than glad to order from the UK now I guess. Seeing as even if Sager announces it, it'll be a few more weeks out before we start receiving.

 

well with software OC you can't really fk up, if you mod the vbios and tuned the settings a bit over...you are gonna have some trouble booting up

 

Yes the IHS (the cap) is worth a good 2-2.5mm of Z-height. Normally on desktop boards you'd simply unscrew the existing retention mechanism, and adjust the height with washers to get the appropriate mount. Obviously not possible in the ZM however. Somebody suggested screwing down the heatsink more, which could've also worked if not for the fact that the CPU and GPU heatsinks are fused together, and I get this niggling feeling that overtightening the CPU heatsink (if even possible) could cause some contact issues over on the GPU side.

My idea was to actually solder an appropriately sized copper shim to the heatsink, which would be very difficult of course and pretty much impractical as you get one shot at it.

 

Exciting times ahead, can't wait till the first few people here get their hands on these machines, so many questions to answer!

Screen quality
Sound quality
Keyboard
Touchpad
Temps
Noise level under load and idle

And the de-lidding is also something to keep a close eye on to find out what turns out to be the best option from those already mentioned earlier.

Let the fun begin :thumbsup:

 

I can definitely see the value of having upgradable parts. Since I've received my laptop my mind has unfortunately kept on thinking how much more powerful the next NVIDIA flagship mobile GPU will inevitably be. I'll admit, I'm addicted to upgrading my gadgets. There's something just so thrilling and exciting about buying new tech. Of all the things my OCD could have focused on it had to be buying expensive tech didn't it? You Bat people won't have to worry about any of that.

The P35X v3 had the same design where both CPU and GPU heatsinks were fused together. Didn't cause any issues for me when I re-pasted it

I can safely say that if you chose either the Panasonic 3K or the Sharp 4K you're in for a treat for your eyes.

And as for GPU temperatures, well, they are guaranteed to be fantastic. P65xSG already cools the 980M amazingly well so the P75xZM is guaranteed to be even better with its bajillion heatpipes and thicker chassis.


Sent from my Nexus 5

 

Yep, that makes a lot of sense how you explained it, I bet some brave soul will get the solder irons out - could be the way forward! (If the heatsinks are not that expensive then you might not have much to lose anyway - well, apart from wrecking your CPU of course!).

 

Luna ever heard of Google translate? I've managed to make an order up through mySN de with google translate.. Come on it's not that difficult..

Anyways, bad news but I've got major upgrade fever.. I can't be bothered waiting for this and will get a P370SM-A instead from Schenker when their sale is on.. It makes more sense for me too in the long run.. My financing application should be approved hopefully.. Otherwise, it will not be a good time..

 

to be perfectly (mod)safe u could just open up a thread in the OT section, ill make sure to include a link to it here in the OP

as for schenker, id be happy to translate everything for you

have to agree on this one, best to do the initial ocing and finetuning of stable settings with software and then switch to bios once uve found the perfect clocks & voltages i for one stick to software, since i just cant stop tinkering

if uve got such a bad case of upgrade fever that u cant wait for another 3 weeks then ill prognose an even worse case of buyers remorse for you once batman hits the shelves *mwahaha* think about the 35 days in lunas last comic strip!!!

 

Jaybee the thing for me is that I can easily afford to wait however, I rather take my chances now with the sale on and the config I want for the Batman (Large 17") comes to £1500 and the P724 (Clevo P370SM-A) comes to about £2052 currently and it will be less on sale... I'm hoping it's 10% off.. However, the smallest it will be is 5% and even then it makes it even more of a no brainer to go for 2x980M.. My main problem is it all hinges on

1. Financing being approved.
2. Going with 4810MQ and hoping it doesn't bottleneck anything (I'm going to try to get a free upgrade to 4910MQ or with reduced cost however no idea how that is going to go).

Let's see... About 21-22 hours till tomorrow .. My cart is ready

 

understandable, but if ure so tight on finances are u sure its a good idea to spend that much money as fast as possible? just think its weird that so many people here seem to have to sell one of their kidneys to get a highend machine, instead of just waiting until theyve actually saved up the money...

edit: no offense, just that imo the only two things in life worth financing instead of fully paying right away are a car and/or a house

 

^^^ this is my advice as well.

 

Well I do have a job in the bag.. It's a matter of stretching out whatever I've got in the bank till September and then well, I can easily pay of that amount in a month.. I will be doing some tutoring from Jan so that should keep my head above the water.. When you don't have to pay anything from living costs ( I live at home ), life is much much easier.. Only other thing I pay for is my mobile bill and since EE can't be bothered fixing the network issues at home for the last 3 months, they can keep giving me entire bill credits ...

Selling my AW and have an ultrabook that I can sell as well so finances wise, I'm fine..

 

ok, just sounded a lot more tight than it actually turns out to be

 

According to this benchmark right here, it seems that for gaming purposes there is no difference between the 4790K and 4790S (which is what I would care for the most), and negligible difference in other applications, with the 4790S even winning in some.

However, what were the actual temperatures during those benchmarks? Come on, was it so hard to include the power draw and temps in the data?

I'm considering choosing the 4790S over the 4790K, but I'm afraid that in gaming applications the power draw would increase and the stock TDP would be pretty much moot as an argument for choosing the S over the K. Any reliable data on this available?

Also, what about the stock i5 4460? It's TDP is 84W, but it apparently runs at the same temperature as the 4790S? Seems like a perfect choice for a gamer on a budget.

 

You're so correct there Tom~ Why didn't I ever think of that?! Gosh I'm so dumb, here I thought maybe I could just get access to an English speaking site, with English speaking people, it really ISN"T THAT DIFFICULT AFTER ALL! Now I can just order in mangled translated German! and just worry about all the confusion that comes later~ it's so much easier than simply answering a question <3 Gosh you're so smart!

^^^ this

and yeah I guess I'll do that later.

 

Hey Luna, it's not that mangled.. I've actually found it fine and I literally understand 0 German.. I understand your relunctance and the idea Jaybee has given is great so go ahead with that..

 

Don't be so down, I gave you rep for such a brilliant comment, even added a write up, you totally deserve it! Also no need for excuses, I'm totally not reluctant, just patient, smart and not eager to dive into issues. I was only curious because I wanted to chat with someone there, though thank you so much for looking out ! <3

And nah, not gonna go ahead with it, I pm'd a MOD, waiting on their direction, its hard to break free of this thread when there's so much fresh content and ego's flying around for great material Makes me never want to put my stylus down! <3


*Edit its funny how the thread started mirroring the comic strip shortly after it was posted LOL seems like Jay noticed.

 

Why not the 4790T? 45W and just 5% performance drop over the 4790T, at the same price. That would've been my CPU of choice, if I had bought this laptop instead of the P650SG.

 

and you get to choose when to apply OC and when not to, I'm pretty sure I don't need my GPU running 1.3ghz running cs go LOL

 

+1 Profiles ftw <3

 

Is there a cheatsheet around on overclocking/overvolting/underclocking/undervolting and having it be dynamic via profiles and other power settings? I'm overwhelmed by the amount of info google brings up. I'd like some handholding

 

I think you were meaning 4790S.. Rememeber desktop CPU's are much more power hungry then mobile.. I think the T would struggle to hold the turbo clocks or even reach max turbo clocks with its power limitation.. IMO, the 4790K is the way to go...as I have said before many times!

 

Mm I wouldn't necessarily say cheat sheet, but I can pull up some good threads that go into it, I'm sure you're probably pulling up both software and hardware methods which also includes using devices, dip switches, bios settings, and other things which range from the early 90's to today.

As of current I stick w/ bios though some prefer software ( more advanced though its gotten easier from what I've seen ) the other part depends on if you're locked or not. VTT, VCore and VCCSA are going to be your main areas. After that you get into mem timings which then pushes you back to the previous respectively, that + IMC etc I can easily see why it would get overwhelming, it took me a good bit to get into it, and its def no quick walk in the park, OC'ing , Undervolting etc takes a lot of trial and error, but pays off in the long end once you have good results and settings. That + it turns you into an artisan~

I'll pull up some info from my other threads on OCN, as they have great tutorials, and tons of reps from other well established sites.

Ofc there are many established individuals here as well, and I'm sure Meaker or n=1 or Jay, as well as many others could easily devise it. I'll shoot you a pm though and we can go over some things.

 

http://ark.intel.com/it/products/80809/Intel-Core-i7-4790T-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz

 

All desktop parts follow the same power/voltage/frequency curve so just get a 4790k and tweak the TDP yourself to get the ideal temperature vs performance point. In the future you can reset it if games get more or less CPU hungry.

 

this. imo its just burning money getting a locked down cpu. just get urself the best and if u cant / dont want to handle the heat, then underclock / undervolt / limit the TDP and run it in 4790S/T/X mode

 

Honestly I started by going to HWBot and looking at the top scorers' XTU profiles and what settings differed from mine. I knew voltage was the one setting that could insta-fry my chip so I left that alone. Then I just experimented with the different settings and noted what effects (if any) they had. That got me started on software overclocks using XTU. Then I started doing more reading from different sites to learn more.

And my style of overclocking can be described as lazy brute lol. Basically I pick my intended OC, then tweak the settings to make it stable without any parameter going outside my comfort zone.

 

Exactly the info I needed. Thanks!

 

Any news from US resellers about this model?

 

Sager said Jan/Feb... It's going to be a bit later for the US compared to Europe for this model..

 

My New laptop purchase has been postponed till next year... I'm seriously thinking waiting for the 1080M now... Repasted my 3940XM and cleaned out the AW... Hardly breaking 80C @ 3.8GHz on Intel XTU stress test.. IC Diamond is epic..