*** Official Clevo P770ZM / Sager NP9772 and P770ZM-G / Sager NP9773 Owner's Lounge ***

I will. If astounding results, I'll recommend. Otherwise, I'd recommend delid, lap, and spring screw mod. I'm going to attempt some measurements to better recommend screw length, etc. For that mod, possibly. It would be easier than removing the MB, that's for damn sure! And user friendly is what my recommendations generally are...

EDIT: one check will be the difference between the plane of the heatsink/IHS and the tops of the mounting arms, then the difference between hs and the lift for where the spring screws are. If the lift doesn't sit tight with the mounting arms, just doing the spring screw mod is potentially the better option (with considerations that go with it).

 

Tell me about it. Arctic Silver is most notable example - ~9W/mk advertised! In reality, about 1 W/mk, small overstatement - you wish Blatant lies more likely, because who will actually check, right?
Its even on wikipedia now - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_Silver#Claims_and_test_results

 

yep, dont go choosing ur TIM just based on the manufacturer´s stated thermal conductivity

btw superkyle, u DO mean Gelid GC extreme right? cuz u keep mentioning Gelid ultimate... just making sure, cuz gelid has a lot of different pastes with very similar names

 

Yup I do I'll go back and fix it. Too many different pastes I keep mixing up the names...my bad.

 

Ordered! Jumped on mySNs Easter sale. I changed my mind right at the end and went for the 17" instead. Nothing beats rash decisions when there´s 2500€ at stake

U705, 17" IPS, 980M, 4790K, 2x8 GB Kingston 1866, 512 GB 850 Pro.

And so it begins. The great, nervous wait of our time.

 

HAHA you'll love it...

BTW, Sager is supposedly shipping the P770ZM(NP9772) with a Sager IPS pannel (I assume it's the LG IPS 17.3" pannel..).. This was according to XoticPC's site... Can someone confirm this? @Hutsady@XoticPC??

http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np9772-clevo-p770zm-eta-jan23-p-7856.html?wconfigure=yes

 

New lightsaber review! lol
http://www.notebookreview.com/notebookreview/avadirect-menace-clevo-p770zm-review/

 

Sager is not guaranteeing brands at this time.

 

I know the screens have been discussed but I can´t find it (yes luna I searched).
Is the IPS this one: http://www.panelook.com/LP173WF4-SPF1_LG Display_17.3_LCM_overview_21056.html

 

I didn't say anything lol, and from the looks of the specs it is. I noticed Eurocom has a 90% gamut though I believe its still TN.

 

It is TN, and it is glossy. If it helps, N=1 has been able to OC his over 100Hz.

Edit: talking about the 90% panel

 

Pre-emptive strike
I knew there´d been discussions regarding an LG-screen being the only possible one but couldn´t find the posts. According to to this there are 1 IPS LG, 2 TN AUO and 2 TN Chimei in production now (17.3"):
http://www.panelook.com/sizmodlist....resolution_pixels=19201080&production_state=1

Edit: Found it, post by jaybee on page 10. German mySN lists the following:

 

Got our video review posted

 

Even if it is TN 90% is a large improvement over the current screen. Do you have the exact model number I would love to look it up and see the luminance difference. Viewing angles are not that important to me but I do want an accurate screen with a decent peak brightness.

Edit: watched the above review. What the heck is up with a 41.2s boot time. Even when uEFI disabled mine was never that slow. That's insane!!

 

Officially delidded! Next step, lapping.

 

It's probably booting with CSM (Compatibility Support Module) enabled.

 

Curious to see what your temps are now before you do anything else.

 

Had about an 8 degree drop from going stock to gelid gc-03. Had 2.5 degree drop delid and gc-03 in TIM 1&2. Next is lapping. And it is seeming more likely having to pull the mb instead of simpler screw switch, but I'll verify that later as well. They had fixed the corner contact, but the corner isn't touching again (although better than originally was) after delid. So getting better contact is paramount (then I'll apply CLU).

 

Eurocom has it. It's an AUO panel; the B173HW01 V.4

 

Wait are you not applying ClU between the chip and IhS?

 

Not until I seal the vrm. 24 hour cure. There hasn't been enough time to do that, so I gave you gelid temps, which are in line with the 2-3 degrees commonly reported with TIMs other than CLU when delid. For CLU, I don't have a control between lapping. That is nearly a day that could be used lapping to mirror shine. THEN, I'll be seeing the height on the arms. Only after this does CLU get used. If I have good enough contact, I may or may not use CLU in TIM2 and with GPU.

 

whats the difference between these two?

Intel® HM87 chipset and Intel® Z97 Express Chipset

which one is upgradeable / Better....


when i bought my NP9772 i bought it with only a single 980 gtx
can i add another one for this computer (sli) in the future...


what would be a better buy the NP9377 or NP9772 ...(future upgrades.. DEFINITELY )


"these are some of NP9377 specs" ( SLI is an option)

cpu:
Intel® Core™ i7-4940MX (3.1~4GHz) w/8M L3 Cache - 4 Cores - 8 Threads

Core Logic :
Intel® HM87 chipset

System Memory :
Supports Dual Channel DDR3
4x 204Pin SODIMM sockets, support for DDR3L/1600MHz
Expandable up to 32GB DDR3L/1600

I/O Ports : it has
1 Thunderbolt™ Port
1x HDMI 1.4a output Port (with HDCP)
1x eSATA Port (USB 2.0 Combo Port)
1 Mini-IEEE 1394a Port



Thanks

 

The difference is a mobile vs desktop chipset (the Intel ark lets you compare them directly).

As for which is better it depends on what you intend to do with it.

 

Gaming.....

 

Well the two gpu setup will last longer as a high end platform than a single gpu which is the main factor in games.

 

What is the material that makes up the P770ZM? Is it plastic or alloy?

 

Can i upgrade my single gpu to sli in the future? i have a Sager NP9772
thanks again

 

No the motherboard is a single slot design.

 

NP9772 has a desktop cpu but can only have a single gpu....
NP9377 has mobile cpu but can use sli...

theres always a catch...lol

 

The p570wm gives you both but weighs about as much as both combined lol.

 

is it still for sale at powernotebooks? i cant see the model there...

 

No, Sager is not selling it anymore. For gaming the mobile cpu does just fine however

 

@Meaker isn't the latest rumor that the refreshed lineup will include a dual GpU desktop CPU combo?

Edit: thanks @Prema I know it will be some time I was just trying to see and possibly let the guy above know that if he can afford to wait there possibly will be a laptop in the refresh that may include the best of both worlds.

 

Any refresh is a good 5 months away...

 

In time for my new job and fatter wallet so no hurries here .. 3940XM + 970M chugging along quite well!

 

I think I will heed your advice and wait ...." best of both worlds"... hopefully

thanks again

 

A desktop 2011 based system with dual gpus will still be VERY heavy and require dual power supplies.

 

Guys quick question. Would the standard 230w psu on this thing hold up? Im only planning to mildly overclock the gpu, say 10% at most, and leave cpu at stock clocks.

Ive read conflicting testimonials that it never reaches 230w at the socket but someone posted close to 280w at full. Load.

Any tips? Thanks gurus!

 

Yes, it will hold up. See the bottom of this post by Jaybee: http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...e-welcome-to-the-batcave.767105/#post-9860334

 

Thanks man. Also im planning to order from prostar via amazon. Are they a good reseller. Their prices in amazon seems to be better than xotic and they provide free shipping as well. Hows the customer service or warranty? Any jdeas?

 

Anyone tried the liquid metal pad in a 770ZM yet?

 

They are on here, they probably have feedback in the customer review section of the sager sub forum.

 

Got it.
One more thing, does it matter where you buy the clevo p770zm variant to any reseller? I mean does it affect bios or driver updates for the machine? Or all of those softwares come directly from clevos website?

 

Project on hold... In a mishap, I pinched a he at pipe. Time to order a new heatsink...

 

Im really torn between this and the asus g751 jy. It seems to me that the asus has temps of cpu very much controlled rarely reaching 80s c. But this one almost always hits the 90s c threshold in game. I know that the clevo uses a desktop core i7 part, but im really concerned of the longevity of clevos. Would it quickly degrade the cpu compared to g751? Heat build up in that small ff overtime would also affect other components right? Im really on gaming i dont know if having the 4790k is really an advantage over the 4710hq. I dont do video editing or other professional software utilization. Just pure gaming.

But there are really pleasant advantages of the clevo: 1. primarily storage upgradabilty (2 more empty storage slots) u can add 2 tb ssd/hdd along the way which the asus' clearly is handicapped on this essential part. 2. removable battery (i know kinda moot for a dtr but saves u the hassle if it gets broken anyway).. 3. Not much rate of part failures in contrast to asus laptop lottery as ive read rants in thr rog forum and here also (so far imo but i maybe wrong)

However, asus has its advantages too: built in bdrom drive, faster stock pcie ssd, 24gb ram vs 16gb on stock clevo, highly aesthetic machine with an aggressive and modern looks and attitude compared to the relatively modern looking clevo.

My main concern is longevity since speed in gaming for both machines differs only in + or - few fps.

Price seems to be almost identical now, the clevo is discounted aotm reaching very close to the g751 pricepoint with the same storage that is.

 

Yes, it does matter. All Sagers would be, essentially, the same as Sager is the builder. Some builders (Mythlogic, Eurocom in North America) offer a custom BIOS, working with Prema. It's best to contact prospective resellers or builders to find out their support after sale concerning drivers, software, etc. Clevo offers drivers, software but may not be as up to date as the actual manufacturer site, Intel chipset as an example. NBR is a good place to find out about updates.

 

90's in benches is not a factor. Just a minor point of reference. I rarely hit 70's hard gaming, barely reach 80 running boinc (averaging mid 60's) and really there is no comparison unless you need battery life. Clevo's are awesome computers with longevity. And the 770zm can take 32gb of ram not 16gb. Battery life is horrible, but you know that going in and there really isn't a DTR laptop with good battery life. Oh and GPU temps I'm quite sure whup up on the Asus too.

 

Ok thanks!

My main concern was for the gaming temps. Anyway. So it sorta gives me the slight push to lean on clevo. But that bdrive of asus is in itself a good value since i occassionally burn cds. Roughly costing 100usd. Id have to buy one if i pull the gun on clevo.

Regarding the 16gb on clevo, yes i know its max is 32gb i just compared it to the stock config of g751jy which comes with 24gb. Another value if i might add.

But storage wise i dont know if i can put up with asus on this one. My entire steam library now exceeds more than 500gb. Buying additional games down the road might fill up the entire available storage in no time. Thats why clevo gives me some headroom to play with. Not to mention my yify movies and uk top 40 collections, hehe.. (although augmented by my external drive but nonetheless)

 

Buy an external bd drive. I was hesitant but dont regret it. I rarely use optical drives to play music or install stuff these days. I mostly use optical for burning stuff. Defi itely handy for archiving stuff. It hasn't been a bid deal grabbing it when I need it. And with five USB 3 ports handy, only one of which is occupied at all times and the other four being on side it has turned out to be a no brainer. Now I just need to quit being lazy and get rid of my ssd's and hdd's since I am only using bd-r's for archive purposes currently.

 

+1 External drive. If it's only CDs or DVDs $20-30 should cover it.