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I´ve been having Win 10 build 10240 for a week now and to be honest i´m pretty happy with it. Did some benchmarking also (3d mark 11 to be exact) and actually got some 250p. higher scores than i got previously on Win 8.1 . Altough i´m not sure how high 3d mark 11 fluctuations can be, but it seems to me that the new system has been improved quite a bit in terms of performance at least. Also games (GTA 5 & BF4) are running much more stable without crashes(running with the Nvidia driver 353.62)

 

Out of curiosity, do you use the fingerprint reader? I tried an earlier build of Win10 and the fingerprint login was terribly flaky compared to Win81. Waiting to see if thats been fixed before trying Win10.

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I do use it. It is flakey. It doesn't crash the system like it used to, but it isn't as solid as it was. It is more demanding than win 7 or 8 in how you hold your finger to set it up, which means the days of off angle quick swipe to login are over...

 

I actually found it on eBay, a seller had a very lightly used SM951 NVMe for sale. Ordered it for $400 shipped from him. Obviously going to run a CDI to verify it's very lightly used.

Still concerned on cooling it, guess I'll have to figure out finding small RAM heatsinks that can fit properly

 

Today I installed Windows 10 and had several problems:

1. Not working display brightness driver
2. Does not work the camera driver
3. Does not work fingerprint reader driver
4. Autocad 2016 does not work correctly. (Errors)
5. Does not work Nvidia GeForce Experience
6. Does not work Sound Blaster X-FI MB3 App.
7. It does not play movies in MKV format

LF

Clevo P770ZM; I7 4790K; GTX 980; 32 Gb Hyper-X Ram; 512GB Micron M.2 MSATA ; Windows 8.1 64Bit

 

Please let us know how you do with it, both whether it works (it seems from older posts that nvme won't work yet in these laptops) and if it does work, how you do with temperatures.

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Thanks for this. I might wait a bit to see if they improve it any before I update. I like my easy login

 

Same here. It still works, just finicky for enrolling fingers and swiping at an angle. Overall, I'd recommend the update, but can also see why people would wait a couple months to shake some bugs out!

 

What drivers were you using?

 

I have it on my machine. My configuration is a bit odd. I have the OS on a Samgsung EVO 500GB running SATA in one of the m.2 slots and my Flight Simulator running on the SM 951 in the other PCIe m.2 slot.

The machine sits on a Coolmaster U3 and I haven't experienced any issues. Actually I'm very pleased with how great the simulator runs.

I don't know what utility monitors thermals and throttle but if someone tells me, I'll install it and check.

 

The SSD wont be unusable if it throttles, and the speeds it throttles to will still be ok for most people.

 

So, first thing I'd recommend is a clean install. Now that your machine is registered, you can download the ISO and install it clean. This will resolve at least half of your list. There are problems with the upgrades still and driver conflicts. If you have time/are able to, try this first and let me know of the remaining issues...

Edit: I can't speak to the autocad (probably needs updated for Windows 10 specifically), soundblaster x-fi (haven't installed it on my clean install), and mkv isn't supported on the built in player (try vlc or another player that specifically supports mkv. I'm on my phone and didn't look it up for you). The majority of other drivers are built into the os. You should use the most recent command center (hotkeys) from the Clevo site. The us mirror doesn't work, use the Asia or Europe mirror to download it directly from the Clevo website. Also, install the most recent download from Intel for the chipset (go to website and search chipset inf). I think they finally incorporated a working driver for airplane mode onto the rtm of win 10. Hope that explains what you need.

 

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Nope, haven't even installed the drivers for it.

 

@MrDJ has this excellent thread in his sig. for monitoring temps and more.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/everything-you-need-to-monitor-your-temps-and-more.634395/

 

I installed it, seems to detect the headset just fine. I'll have to try it out with games later this evening and see how it fares. But you have to login with a Razer account to use it. I don't like that.

 

All of their software is like that these days. Does seem a little silly.

 

But...but...it stores your settings in the cloud

 

I'm using the divers who sent me ProStar with my machine

 

Try using windows 10 drivers.

 

Meh, audio keeps going out of sync with video. Not working well. At least the one driver I found from Logitech works well.

 

You're using Razer Surround with a wireless headset? Yeah probably not a good idea.

 

Thanks man, I went through it, and looks like it was both my Wireless card AND my USB driver. I've updated both and I seem to be lasting hours without my DPC latency spiking for more than 5 seconds. There are the occasional single spikes, but I haven't heard the "Sound freezing" sound since updating. Had no idea there was a program to determine what driver was causing it

 

I'm sorry if this is a super retarded question, as it's hard for me to notice, but for G-sync:

I enable G-sync, disable Vsync.
Then in games, I disable any Vsync. I set my maxfps to 75-80, due to the monitors refresh rate not going higher than 75.
This makes it so G-sync is disabled above 75fps, and if I go below 75, the monitor will auto-adjust the Hz to the FPS that is displayed, correct?

I'm just wanting to make sure I have g-sync enabled properly.

 

Good to hear that worked for you!

 

Enable G-sync in Nvidia control panel. Disable v-sync in game and don't put on any frame limiter. G-sync will do it all. With G-sync enabled it will not go higher than the native refresh of the LCD.

 

At least in the desktop G-sync you can choose what it does at the top either vsync or no frame rate limit.

 

So mobile G-Sync is stuck with V-Sync on?

 

It's not an explicit option, v-sync should be separated from the G-sync options and this should change the behavior going beyond the refresh rate in FPS.

 

Well that sucks. Desktop G-Sync lets you choose whether or not you want V-Sync as well. Did Nvidia lock out windowed G-Sync from mobile too?

 

Hi everybody,

I am looking at buying a XMG U705, which should be the equivalent of the Clevo P770ZM. I am just hesitating because of the heat/noise of the laptop, as I am not a pure gamer, I am only looking for a laptop with good "raw" performance.

Actually I was considering purchasing it with an i7 4790 "T", but it lacks of feedback globally on the web. I heard that a 4790 "K" could behave like a nicer, cooler CPU when tuned/undervolted properly.

However, I do not know exactly if that is true and how I can make it happen "easily" on a daily use basis. I am ideally looking at a laptop where you set the battery profile on the taskbar ("performance" / "normal use" / "energy saving") and that's it.

Any suggestions?

Thanks for this great thread in any case !

 

Intel XTU. It will let you save different profiles. Undervolt, underclock, overclock, etc.

 

Thanks for the answer, I will check it out. Is the impact on noise really significant when you tweak the CPU that way? I would like to have a "movie" profile (HD capable) that would prevent the fans from ruining a good movie...

 

For movie watching your temps should be fairly low. You could leave it on auto fans and I highly doubt they would even turn on. Assuming of course you don't have multiple background programs running.

 

Ok so I did that, decided to remove FPS capt, and it still does not stop at 75.

For my specific case, I'm using League of Legends.

I enabled G-sync in full screen and windowed
In monitor tech, I set GSYNC
I disable Vsync ingame
What about the Vsync option in Nvidia control panel?

 

Ok so I installed the SM951 NVMe, had to download a prema bios, but it was for the non-G, so my 980m would not funciton under the windows 10.

I suppose I need to wait for a proper update for the G model, and probably going to sell the NVMe SM951 and buy an AHCI version instead.

Just thought I'd give everyone a heads up as to why it didn't work out

I did run a CDM, I did not get a screenshot, but it was considerably higher than my 840 pro, but I'm sure you're able to find screenshots online.

 

May I ask what everyone's temps are?



This was with WoW open in the background and CS:GO open. It hit 100c cap

 

G-sync is a form of V-sync, so V-sync has to be enabled, and is enabled by the Control Panel when you select to activate G-sync. If you turn off V-sync even if it says "G-sync enabled" it is not, and the FPS can go well above the LCD's refresh rate and no longer works. It works with windowed mode just fine. I was just posting some videos on this. Sorry was going to do some narration, but kids were not cooperating... I wanted to do a short blurb on G-sync now that I've fussed with it a bit. Will work on that.

Showing Windowed and full screen G-sync works:


Showing that V-sync has to be enabled:


Honestly, it doesn't matter. Not sure what difference it is if V-sync is enabled or disabled if G-sync was enabled. It doesn't stutter or step at all. G-sync is effectively V-sync just on a different level.

 

When you enable G-Sync but disable V-Sync, G-Sync is still on as long as FPS is within the variable refresh rate window. When FPS exceeds refresh rate, G-Sync automatically disables itself, so you get a higher FPS but tearing.

Old G-Sync used to force V-Sync on, but Nvidia rolled out the option to disable V-Sync a while back for feature parity with FreeSync.

 

I'm hitting 91c with GTA5 under Win10 b. 10240 with turboboost enabled and nvidia driver 353.62. When turboboost is disabled im getting 82c max under same conditions.

 

Hm wonder if my CPU is not flat or something. I've mounted heatsinks on CPUs for over a decade so it's very unlikely that I screwed up mounting the heatsink.

I used Gelid GC Extreme

 

Do you have your fans set to full speed?

 

Im sorry 95c and fans are set to automatic.

 

well hmm lol

I suppose my temps are normal then. I did expect much better cooling out of this beast. I'm an avid fan of cooling, but looks like I'll need external cooling assistance so I don't throttle the CPU.

Suppose I should to research to see if it's possible to upgrade the fan to a higher CFM fan. I did the upgrade in two different M17x R4s, and it kept the CPU so cool

 

DUDE I figured it out, you may laugh, you may not, no idea. But it's something that randomly came to thought for me, something I ALWAYS do when I install windows 7.

So I used to stream a lot on twitch, and streaming programs required Windows Aero off early on, so I've always disabled windows Aero simply because I wanted as many resources available for the game performance as possible.

I decided just now to re-enable windows aero just incase that was it. Turns out G-sync requires windows aero enabled. Now every game I open in windowed mode displays "GSYNC ON" on the left side.

Hopefully if someone googles this problem, they can learn from my mistake, and turn on windows aero to enable GSYNC in windowed modes.

 

The reason why the "T" lacks feedback, that it is utter nonsense to buy it.
Additionally, if you buy a ZM, you dont want slow mobile-cpus. Mobile CPUs are slow because they are tdp-limited. A "T" version is even more tdp-limited. So in short: Don't buy this crap!

Buy any CPU with a TDP of >80W and you will be ok.

 

What about the S version?

 

There is no point in buying that, too.

Less TDP does not mean that the CPU will use less power at same clock speed.

 

(1) That is absurd, because what's the point of G-sync then? When your frame rates DROP you actually get the benefit?
(2) I don't know that is necessarily the case. I'll have to run with G-sync on and V-sync off and watch for tearing. I'll have to set frame limit to 75FPS with G-sync on and V-sync off.

Great find! +rep.

 

When streaming though, doesn't that limit the FPS anyhow?

 

The point of G-Sync is to provide a smooth, tear-free experience inside the VRR window. How is it absurd? More options is never a bad thing. Nvidia explained the reasoning behind it in the quote. You trade tearing when FPS exceeds refresh for an input lag win because V-Sync always adds input lag. Ofc if you don't want tearing nor input lag, which is what I'm assuming you want, then enable G-Sync, disable V-Sync, and cap FPS at refresh rate.

Assuming your panel is 75Hz, if you cap FPS to 75 with G-Sync on/V-Sync off, you won't see tearing. It's only when FPS exceeds refresh rate that it'll tear.