*** Official Clevo P775DM2/3(-G)/P75xDM2(-G) (Sager NP9152/NP9172) WINGMAN 2.0/BATMAN 3.0 Lounge ***

Hm... Actually, the main reason is because I'm actually scared of it. I caused instability and restarts a few times with it, no idea what went awry (?)

How did you get a customizable BIOS ?

 

Made the BIOS changes myself, just something to try to improve my brand. Clients asked for options, i gave them.

 

Just use Throttlestop, it will do the trick mate. Nothing to worry there. In my case, I was using TS, had some issues because of CPU upgrade, so went to XTU and then moved back to TS (thanks to @John@OBSIDIAN-PC for setting TS profiles).

 

Okay. What settings are you using?

 

you grab the bios firmware files from the bios and extract the stock image and replace it with your own in the proper image format.
that involve grabbing the currently installed bios files from the mobo though which is why im asking is prema or anyone else would have issue with that.
its relatively easy to do if you know what your looking for as there are plenty of tools for the various makes of bios's to extract and add bits and bobs such as custom boot logos and other things like option roms (computrace, pxe lan drivers, lojack, various other pre-os boot software that runs in the bios environment) though the latter requires a lot of trial and error as they usually were not made for the particular system or bios they are being added to. (because if they were they'd already be in there lol)

 

Yeah due to this banding I replaced the 120Hz AUO B156HTN05.2 TN panel in my NP9152 with a 60Hz AUO B156HAN01.2 IPS. It MOSTLY fixed the banding but its still a 6bit screen. I've been trying to figure out if its using a 40pin to 30pin edp cable for the screen or if its straight 30pin. If 40pin then it would seriously open up a lot of screen options for getting a true 8bit panel that wouldn't have the banding. :-\ If not there is one 8bit 30pin panel that would most likely work: LTN156HL06-C01. Just hard to find for under $100.

 

See!!! I want to know if that is pulling the FULL 190/200W?!!! If it does, you might get a special order from me! Show me some Firestrike scores...this is my FS score from my 15.6 MSI 16L...7700K/1080...19,708 http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11873926

If that 1080 is at full power, I will PM you for more information and an instant order.

 

Aida64 combined cpu-gpu stability stress test can not push the graphics to the utmost limit. For a harder test for your cpu and gpu... You should rather run Heaven with Aida64 cpu stress test simultaneous. For max Cpu stress. Check only the box with stress FPU in Aida64.

 

ok good to know, EC in the package is still old 1.06.01 and 1.06.02 for EC2, i not have the black screen issues tho, i only had them when i first flashed the XMG branded 1.06.04, after the Schenker 1.06.04 Bios i'm good since. To modify the bios myself, i guess i will need propiatery tools right? i only modded my Desktop Sabertooth Z77 so far and it was pretty easy to begin with.

I think next time i will order from you guys , but so far no need after tweaking my P775DM3 runs like a charm, 75 °C GPU and CPU both OCed with auto fans, using only Afterburner and Throttlestop.

Edit: Well it would be better with a more optimized bios like premas e.g. but it runs great so far, as far as the stock bios takes me, no throttling so far

 

Yes I know, the point is there is no single test that will pull more.
Firestrike won't, and the GPU is not even a problem as it's temperatures are very good.
I doubt any real world usage will ever produce more heat than a stability test from AIDA.
I will do more tests, you guys can ask for any.
As I said this P751 behaves just like our P775 Wich was the all purpose of this testing.
Pretty decent temperatures and able to hold a 7700K plus GTX1080 without throttle.

 

Add CyberpowerPCs UK to the list of inept UK resellers... Quotes in response to questions on overheating for 7700K (with behaving GTX1070)

Did your tests pick up any thermal throttling or overheating on the CPU? What paste did you use?

Also with the overheating, we use thermal pads which are already on the bottom of the heatsink when installed. What are the idle temps for it?

What tests do you use? Are you sure they used just thermal pads?

Thermal pads are the same as thermal paste, just they are already on the copper heatsink. We use Prime95 and Unigene heaven for testing which was ran overnight.
Temps reached 92C CPU and 89C for GFX card, which are acceptable for the testing that was done and the thermals of the unit itself (with a top end CPU). The paperwork does not suggest it thermally throttled though.

 

Thermal pads instead of thermal paste? Hummm, sorry but that does not sound right.

That´s not how you test the unit...
Prime95 will only do CPU and Heaven will only do GPU, unless they did run both at the same time.

Please ask them to run AIDA Extreme is the easiest way to test the unit, remember the cooling system does use shared heatpipes so you need to pull both the CPU and GPU at the same time, otherwise even a game will be able to produce more heat than that, there´s plenty of games that will do 100% on the GPU and will still be intensive on the CPU.

Also it is always important to know if the achieved CPU temperatures were achieved with what undervolt value. The FIVR page from TS will show it even with TS off it will fetch those values from the bios.

 

That's interesting.

92C for CPU on what frequency? 6700K reaches 92C on 4.2 for me, but doesn't get past 90 on 4.0 GHz.

89C for GPU seems a bit excessiive though. Like... Quite a bit excessive .

 

Regarding to faulty card GTX 1080 in Clevo P775DM3-G i have today confirmation they going to replace it . Soon i get my babe back xD .

 

I am on a different chassis now - but the principles are still the same. This image was my very first test on a Cyberpower UK creation at stock (as it arrived).

 

Unfortunately, that was the case! And the thermal pads for the GPU outer bits looked like strips of half sucked chewing gum.

(all is exceptionally good now though!)

 

I perhaps should note that I have now downgraded to an MSI16L13. I just thought I would post here because Cyberpower UK also do Clevo. And if this build is anything to go by I would be very wary of buying from them too!

 

Well it´s actually more complex than that.

You see latest stock CLEVO bios will have a factory UV of around -100mv if i recall. So when you look at some posted 7700K temperatures sometimes the user might not be aware that we are looking at a undervolted system.

For a 6700K you should get away with NO undervolt, and even pulling 100% on CPU and GPU you should get enough good temperatures to be throttle free.
It´s just too easy to keep the 6700K under good temperatures.

Now if you are interested in CPU ONLY temperatures, let´s do some runs with FPU only with the 7700K which is a all new beast in!


A) The 7700K with the stock bios is actually at -100mv since recent BIOS versions do -100mv by default, so with 4 clocks locked @ 4.5Ghz (this is still a tad OCed comparing to stock clock):


MAX TEMP: 83ºC - Temps stabilize and will not move no matter the time you do the test.


->So saying that a 7700K @ stock clocks with stock BIOS values (which is -100mv) is doing 92ºC is REALLY bad in my book. If you are willing to step into the 90ish temps in the CPU (which is still throttle free) then a simple -50mv should allow you to burn 4 cores locked @ 4.8Ghz (at least) and land you around 92ºC to 95ºC, throttle free:



Those two examples are what i would say "acceptable" for the P775DM3-G.

So to know if we are talking about good temperatures or not we ALWAYS need to know A) What Prime95 test was done? What was the run time for the test? What is the Undervolt (is it stock -100mv or no undervolt?)
And only then we can know if it runs good or not.

Something really amazing would be getting something like this:

 

That's interesting. Really interesting.

So... If I were to change 6700K which reaches ~95C at 4.2 at -100mV for a 7700K, I would reach a lower temp at 4.2 with the ame -100mV. Assuming the paste job is good (?)

You see, The silicon lottery is as real as it gets...

 

It depends on the chip and if your heatsink is performing properly. A copper shim for the slightly lower Z height is also worth grabbing.

 

I really really really want to reach 4.2 GHz...

So far I've been running a 4.0 GHz with -100 mV adaptive on 6700K. With those settings, it generally stays under 80 and it is magically stable

If I just increase the multiplier to 4.2, the temps go over 90C... Any thoughts? How do I test how much I can lower the voltage and still be safe?

What is the expected value for -mV to be set with adaptive for a 6700K for 4.2 GHz on all cores?

 

Lowering the voltage will simply cause crashes, the only things it threatens is data (corruption from bad processing), the hardware is safe.

 

Are you delidded? And it depends on the Chip, i can do -80mV for 4.5Ghz for example which resulted in about 1.22-1.23v when Stress Testing. 4.2Ghz ran stable to about -160mV

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Thank you!

No delid yet, sorry.

But if it threatens the data already on PC is kinda bad since this is my main machine and I have tons of thingss that I don't want to lose. Like my discographies and such and my work files...

 

A good reason not to then, you should still have a backup of those things of course

 

i never had the "missing files or corrupted data" issue when ocing but @Meaker@Sager is right, better be save than sorry when OC. Do you know what thermal paste you have between your CPU/GPU and Heatsink? Could be a borked Heatsink too which causes the temps, i heard some storys for the P7xxZM/DM line that some are really really bad.

 

Even have a backup of the backup to be honest.

The problem though is that the current work, like last day or last 2 days is not saved in those backups and that is not exactly a minor thing.

So -100mV is fully stable for 4.0 GHz.

-100mV is fully stable for 4.2 Ghz but it causes high temps. Any chance that going for -115 might improve the temps with like 5 degrees or more?

 

I think that it is mx4 or something. But the paste job is good by itself.

In Romania, getting any other paste is an adventure.

 

My P775DM3 is here!!! I'm waiting on my NVMe drive to come in because I can't use any of my secret stuff anymore. My first impressions (without being able to use the machine) is that AVADirect actually puts in the box tops from the components they use, like the 7700K and RAM. I actually like that a lot. If I needed a warranty exchange, I could do that myself instead of going through my reseller.

Final thing I want to say is a HUGE thanks to AVADirect for actually honoring the price for this machine. They did not have to honor the price ($1965.84) due to the typo but they did and for that, they are on my very short list of resellers I WILL continue to do business with!!!

 

It's just trial and error that can help you out. No chips are 100% equal. Make a backup of your OS disk and then try it out when you have time. Otherwise it's all just guesswork. Up to you what you want... Same with delidding, replacing the thermal paste with a better one and if needed modifications with a copper Chim. Up to you bro I know you can if you have or need to

 

Is there a way to have HDMI In on this machine?

 

Without a external device i don´t think so.

 

My p750dm2-g just got in and I'm installing windows right now, much fun to be had with the rest of the day!!!


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My first Firestrike score from a completely stock 7700K/1080 P775DM3. No OC or delid. - http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11950577

My max temp is a respectable 69C. There is a small amount of CPU throttling but I'll clean that right up. I do have a lot of work to do.

Now versus my delidded Super OC Tornado F5 - http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11873926

EDIT: The OC potential on the P775DM3 is higher even if the cooling for the Tornado F5 is a bit better. My goal is 20k+

 

Super OC 7700k in Tornado is running at?

 

5.0ghz. Throttle Free.

 

Well, I figured I would see where I could take this beast without a delid and repaste. Using TS + NI, CPU @ 4.8Ghz and GPU & Core 100+ / Memory 209+ I jumped to 18,731 with no CPU throttling. http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11951180

 

That is some proper performance figure! How are your temperatures looking at 4.8?

My machine (now with the reseller) would start throttling almost immediately at stock turbo clocks :O


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75ish. When I finish weightlifting, I'll try to push higher. So far no problems whatsoever.

 

Where did you get your machine from? Those are awfully good numbers, I am beginning to think that resellers here in Blighty either don't know what they are doing or just plain don't care.


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Whats the temp on your CPU?

 

I got mine from AVADirect. The very last one before my gf kicks me in the head, we really have to workout.
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11951795 19k. I am using a modded cooler pad but the real adventure starts tomorrow when I delid and repaste.

Max 76C. I'll post photos soon before and after delid of temps.

 

Sooo....

What is your secret?

 

i'll take that as a "no"

 

So if it's not delidded, what mods did you make to the cooling system?

I asked my reseller (BTO) to exchange it for a UHD screen, handing it over on Monday. The banding is not nice if you also work a lot in Windows itself with photos and stuff.

 

No secret bro. Ambient temps count. Cooler Pad counts. Plus I'm using Max Fans during my OC sessions. My plans is to keep 4.8 as my daily and 5.0+ for OC'ing.

 

With those speeds and temps?

We both know you employ voodoo dark magic with lots of magical runes around the laptop to summon a mini storm inside its case and that you're having a while blizzard environment at microscopic levels under the IHS.

For real tho, I have P775 and it stays on top of a U3, max fans and don't get anywhere near those temps

 

I am in the same boat as @Georgel, though my temperatures are slightly better than his because of undervolt.

I am assuming you are not running a negative offset @4.8?



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I am running the -100 that comes with the beast at @4.8. I won't be able to do that when I am pushing 5.0+, obviously. I will have some brand new tools at my disposal soon. Going to be fun.

 

Well I reached 5.0ghz on it without a delid and WOW, this thing is hot. http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11966265