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Ok so I won't span the SSDs, but how about the HDDs that are already spanned and contain the system image and backup of the OS, games & everything that was on the SSD raid array? Will I be running into any complications accessing it?

 

If it was just spanned and not in RAID mode then nope,

when you re-enable their SATA ports from the BIOS, you won't see them in Computer

just go to disk management, they will have a question mark on them, right click, and select recover or something in that sense I forgot the word, and within seconds, they will be reinitialized and accessible. I have don this on multiple formats, works just fine

 

After splitting up the raid array & installing on one of the SSDs, will I still be able to use the backup, or system image on the spanned HDDs, to get everything back the way I had it, or am I going to have to copy everything over to the 2nd, unused SSD in order to restore? Can I even still use the backup/image to restore from, since it was a backup of what was on a raid array?

 

you can't use the system image, that was an OS installed in RAID mode, the only thing you can restore is your files (docs, music, pics), and steam/origin library folder. you have to place the steam/origin files in the Program Files (x86)

I create a folder for them on the D: drive

D:\Program Files (x86) then copy the steam/origin files in there

then when you run the Steam/Origin installers, change the drive from C: to D: in the setup if that's where you want them to be or leave them on C: if you want.

 

You can restore it to a single drive if the controller is kept in raid mode.

 

that's the whole point of the format, he wants to see how his system performs in AHCI/UEFI mode

I know there is a reg hack that one can do to enable that same RAID setup to boot in AHCI mode but I personally prefer starting from a clean slate.

 

It should be fine to edit the registry to get it to load the right drivers, it should not impact the performance. I have done it before.

 

Applied the same math & made the OS partition 120.1, so windows will show 120GB. This will help make my backup & restore functions quicker. I'll use the remaining space on the 512GB for software like photoshop, etc & as an initial location for quick downloads. The 2nd 950 Pro will be games. As I find myself no longer accessing downloads frequently, those files will be moved to the 4TB storage spanned drive.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-overclockers-lounge.788975/page-110#post-10232227

 

Has anyone tried the GPU overclock app?
Any benchmarks and reccomended clock speeds from it?

 

Rather use Nvidia Inspector. Can not see that this app provides some benefit. Zero volt control provides a rather limited performance increase in benchmarks

 

Alright, bloatware, I'll uninstall it

 

I do not know if you can do that, since the Oc app is integrated with the Control Center .
Ps. Make you a hardware sig.

 

Damn, alright.
Any recommended clock speeds on N.Inspector or should I take the experiment route?
Thanks for your help

 

You should take the experiment route first. See how far you get without having to raise the voltage. BTW what is your Gpu's Asic score?

 

Every chip is different so it's always worth taking a slow and steady approach @Syystole

 

Alright, so as of this moment my SDDs & HDDs are like this:
Samsung 950 Pro 512GB #1 - [C:\] 120GB w/OS, [D:\] 356GB for Apps
Samsung 950 Pro 512GB #2 - [E:\] Full 512GB for Games
Samsung Spinpoint 2TB #1 - [F:\] Storage for Movies, Music, ISOs, etc.
Samsung Spintpoint 2TB #2 - [G:\] Backups of D, E, a little of C, the System Image & I'll probably shrink the volume & create another partition later as needed.

I couldn't keep the 2 Spinpoint as a 4TB spanned drive, because it would make it Dynamic, rather then Basic and there would be complications when trying to restore from a System Image, if that image was stored on a Dynamic drive.

STILL experiencing the occasional lag, when loading an app, making changes, or accessing anything basically. Starting to wonder if it's a problem with the SSDs. I mean they still store & retrieve information just fine, but that access lag... My finger is waivering right now between the SSDs and the RAM.

 

did you install the Samsung NVMe Driver v1.1?????? that is an absolute must.....

www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/samsungssd/downloads.html

 

Ya I've already got that

 

Good chance its the RAM. Did you try removing the sticks one by one? Or try running mem86 test through a bootable USB.

 

Ya know.. I was just looking around in Samsung Magician and even after running the performance benchmark, there are 3 things bothering me....

1. The note at the bottom of the results suggesting I run "OS Optimization".
2. The fact that "OS Optimization" is greyed out for some reason.



3. In the RAPID section, it lists the 950 Pro as being unsupported.



I'm wondering... has anyone else looked at this software & have they too had this issue with the 950 Pro SSD?

 

Samsung Magician is useless on the 950 PRO, nothing is supported....

I never install it

Please run an AS SSD Benchmark and post your results, I am interested to see your 4K Random Read/Writes

Here are mine:

 

Drive seems normal.
Check the RAM and run memtest.
Magician is useless as already stated. If you really want to check, download HDtune Pro and do a full scan of the drive.

 

I remember a while back, someone stating there was an issue with using the 8GB sticks of Kingston HyperX Impact DDR4 2400 as I am. Before making the purchase I had asked around if the issue was resolved with a bios update & all seemed good and well. I wonder if whatever it was people were having issues with is now biting me in the butt. Gonna test the memory here in just a sec.

 

1) your scores are fine except for the Random Write, big difference between mine and yous. Can you run a TRIM command using the default built in Disk Optimizer in Windows 10? then wait a few mins leaving your system idle, then re-run the benchmark and post the new scores

2) as for the RAM, since you have a Mythlogic system, means you have a Prema BIOS. Did you ensure to set your RAM XMP profile from default to XMP Profile 1?

 

Doubt it, i tried my friends HyperX 2400Mhz 64 GB kit and all was peachy for the time frame i use them for. (about 5 hours of rendering in Houdini)

 

Which BIOS are you on? I'm assuming the Mythlogic specific one?

 

RAM has been set to XMP Profile 1 since I first installed them & I've already double-checked.

The Mythlogic-Prema collaborative BIOS. From what the Myth rep told me, it's full Prema.

 

I thought the 950 was supported, but the SM951 drives are not. Or is it where you just get some functionality, but not all of it?

 

Actually, if you dowload Vive's VR test on steam, you can run it and it says the SLI 980m is capable of running VR tittles, and actually on the "very good" rating if overclocked.

EDIT: you must set it to run on anternate render 2 on SLI settings on its profile on Nvdia settings.

 

Yeah. Samsung Magician is useless on the 950 Pro. Samsung MagiCrap is useless on any Samung drive
Here are mine.

 

It is supported as in, it detects the drive but none of the enhancements like OS optimization, Drive optimization (AKA TRIM), or RAPID mode work

 

I think that Samsung mentioned that RAPID mode would work only with 840 EVO SSD.

But it is shocking to not have TRIM on a SSD. Maybe it is done by the SSD controller, in the background ?

 

Should work in windows whether Samsung MagCripple not have this built in. Uninstall this garbage now. Perhaps the software recommended by @Phoenix is tempting? A great software I bought on the recommendation of the aforementioned https://www.oo-software.com/en/products/oodefrag Work excellent even if you want to run raid setup.

 

nope, RAPID works with all the recent and old SSDs, 840 PRO, 840 EVO, 850 Pro, 850 EVO. Just not this NVMe SSD

Not that it makes any real world difference though. RAPID is just a way to lie to benchmark apps, instead of the benchmark app showing the actual speed of the SSD, it shows you the speed of your RAM because RAPID tricks the benchmark app into benchmarking the RAM instead of the actual SSD. Nice marketing trick from Samsung to boast high numbers

A Closer look at the crappy CRAPID

@Papusan

 

waiting for sm961. 3200mb/s read 1800mb/s write worth.

 

actually not quite true, it is a marketting scheme but on some software that does be a little snapier.

 

maybe, not in my usage scenarios though.

 

that extra speed is almost non-existent for most of the time for sure.

i'd prefer real performance from a real controller and superior flash + firmware over the use of rapid mode. for rapid i'd just create my own ram disk and put files in here and there. not some junk TLC with SLC cache, overclocked controller are almost always welcome as long as temp is good.

 

Well, Steam VR is different from Oculus VR. It's the Oculus that has a very high requirement.

 

Steam VR also have a very high requirement (I'm pretty sure its the same actually), but its not hardlocked or blackflaging any hardware.
I believe that both requires you to run the images for each eye at 90fps.

 

With steam yes they are trying to keep 90 FPS with dynamic detail adjustments.

 

How much worse is a properly configured Alienware (maxed out) compared to a P870?

 

Worse lol. Much worse. I had one.. With a 980m. The difference felt like going from a mid grade laptop to a desktop. Even when mine was working great it still was a shadow compared to the P870. I'll never go back. Maybe my experience was worse then most but I'm being brutally honest.

 

What were the problems exactly?

 

Thermal throttling though the roof... No matter what. CPU throttling down to 800hz even after a motherboard replacement. Even when not hitting thermal throttle point because of stupid Dell BIOS and fan profiles. Tried every bios in the book. Repasted.. replaced part's. Never ending battle with Dell. NEVER. Again.

 

Thanks for letting me know ^_^

 

And I had never owned an Alienware, but was considering the option, due to some circumstances, but it would cost similar to a P870 with their graphic amplifier.

 

They where great once but that was many years ago, the M18 was the first one to take the fall then all others afterwards. Don't go there just don't lol.