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I have the sli version had crazy temps in mine aswell 1 gpu at 65 and 1 at 88oc i opened the laptop up swaped the cards around re applied heatpaste to both of them ripped all the plastic off the bacl covering the vents including that stupit metal foil thing aswell, now when i run the machine i get temps of 55 and for the slave i get about 65 max i have seen is 70 so huge differences for me with those changes max cpu is about 70 so i feel alot more comfortable with it now. hope u got your issue sorted

 

pmsl yeah it is magic you showed me how to get mine to a stable performance with the temps etc but also with removing the plastic covering the vents at the back i have had even grater results so thanks again for your help

great form page with great help

 

I had to switch the UEFI off as it was telling me that there was so HDD available which is a bit annoying any recomendations to fix this ?

 

What OS? What setup? As in, AHCI or RAID?

 

Yes, the boot settings are not quite as simple as they used to be to use UEFI fully.

 

My OS is windows 10, i am using AHCI when I turn on the UEFI it says and i quote " reboot or select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key" but when I switch it off it just loads up as normal had the issue when i got it just didnt know how to fix it

 

seems like the OS was installed without UEFI in the first place. I would format and install in pure UEFI for fastest boot.

Please ensure you only have the disk you are installing Windows on otherwise the boot files will be placed on the 2nd drive which is a big mess

See:

NBR Windows 10 Clean Installation Guide

Clevo P870DM/DM-G Drivers Mirror

 

MBR seems messed up.
Repairing it using bootrec might fix it. Not too sure though.

 

Tried that one before tried everything only solution I have is to turn it off though it was weird though

 

You do need to install the OS in UEFI mode to get it to work properly.

 

yeah but I cant do that if it does not let me lol, doesnt give me a boot order menu its just empty and then it just displays the message as stated above no way to get past it tried every fix out there only fix was to turn it off

 

What media are you using to install the OS?

 

windows 10 disc that came with the laptop I have also been given other discs but its not the media as i don tthink that would cause it to not see any devices

 

I would call your reseller and get some step by step advice on it.

 

You see you didn't even read my guide. If you follow it, it will show you how to create the USB and it should be UEFI bootable,if not I will help you tomorrow over Skype step by step

 

Have you tried spamming F7 after turning the laptop on in UEFI mode, you should get a boot selection menu. Or you can create a USB Windows installation (use RUFUS to do this and it there will be a drop down option to make it UEFI bootable) , F7 to get the boot selection and use that to get into the windows installation.

 

Yeah I did try advised me to turn it off lol thanks for the help anyway guys

 

Just seen your message there I didn't know you had a guide about it. Is it on here ? Is there a big difference using uefi

 

Yeah I usedid f7 but the boot option menu is blank and gives me no option. I don't even know what RUFUS is never herd of it before what is it ?

Thanks

 

Nah you don't need the guide, he just wants you to use USB to install windows instead of a DVD, there's no difference as it won't help with what you have an issue with.

if secure boot is enabled try disabling it and see what happens

 

RUFUS is a tool for creating bootable USB drivers.
https://rufus.akeo.ie/

This might actually be the issue, if nothing is showing up.

 

I'm sure he's used the USB DVD drive in another machine. It's a bootable media via usb, regardless if it's a flash drive or a DVD drive, it still runs through USB. The other alternative is if the DVD was created without UEFI capabilities, as in not through microsoft's media creation tool

 

True, but this happened to me once that my USB DVD drive wouldn't get recognized on a x79 board but it would work just fine on a different one. Once i installed windows using a USB drive, it started recognizing it just fine after that.
But i have a feeling its something related to Secure Boot or something else entirely.
The easiest thing to try right now would be to make a bootable USB drive from the Image downloaded using the Microsoft Update Tool.

 

If its me I download from MS and put it onto a thumb regardless, they keep it relatively up to date so you've got less to pick up from update and it installs more quickly.

 

hello.... quick question for you guys


Does this means that I wont be able to use Oculus drift or HTC vive with my laptop??

 

yea basically no mobile gpu is vr ready yet

 

The mobile 980 (not 980M) is, but you are relying on the basic detection of that program

 

I am hoping is some kinda of feature that a driver can add.... i will be pretty upset if my 5k laptop cant run VR

 

Well seems I may have finally found my sweet spot for gaming with my CPU at 4.5 and GPU's at 160/100 each. Not throttling and pretty much every game has held clocks. Aside from my occasional weird shutdown I have been getting 1-2 times a day.. everything else works great. Hopefully I can figure that part out.

 

Well I still have the freeze/stutter/lag issue at desktop, but it only happens when I open a program, apply some changes, or change tabs/pages.

I found that the last 2 nvidia driver updates don't agree with this laptop. I've reverted back to 364.51, which was the Game Ready Driver for Tom Clancy's: The Division (although I don't own the game yet).

Somehow though I'm not having the lag with alt+tab anymore when using G-Sync, even when just enabling G-Sync normally & not setting it individually for each game in the nvidia control panel. I've already used this driver before, so that hasn't really changed. The only notable changes have been the installation & use of Curse Voice & it's in-game overlay, the reinstallation of the Mythlogic Control Center app, the reinstallation of the SB X-Fi MB5 software & finally, the reinstallation of Flexikey, which controls the laptop's lighting.

 

Did you check the power settings as i suggested? http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...enix-has-arisen.781814/page-539#post-10231213

 

Actually I hadn't read that, but had already looked into & adjusted it. Made no difference.

 

Ah gotcha!
Then the only suggestion left would be to take out all the memory modules and try them one by one. IF not this, then trying a spare RAM module.

 

Mod your inf files and load the desktop driver and then it will be ready. They aren't black flagging hardware so it won't know any difference. Its just their way to control the non technical users.

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Good to see you can enjoy things now so GAME ON! See you in the wilderness of kyrat.

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Yesterday courier picked my faulty GPU. As soon as my reseller will receive it, they will send me new one (replacement will be fast).
So I should receive new 980M ~~ on Wednesday. I hope this will be first and last issue.

Now I must prey if I've got enough paste in tube. Since it's black, I can't check .

 

Thats great to hear and that they allowed you to exchange, what vendor so people can see the service satisfaction on here.

 

Really wondering if the lag at desktop is due to the lack of a hardware raid controller.

 

Might be, RAID hasnt been worth it on the P870DM. The gains are very very very minimum and depend a lot on the type of use.
I gave RAID0 a shot, because i do a lot of reading and writing. And the advantage was just not worth the storage cost and the headache.
On my desktop it as worth every penny, because of the hardware RAID controller and extra lanes.

 

Also I seem to be unable to install the Samsung nvme drivers, or do anything with them in the Samsung Magician software. When I try to install the nvme drivers it acts like I don't have a samsung ssd connected.

 

Which OS are you on? The magician software is useless. Try installing them manually - http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/SSD/global/html/support/downloads.html

 

I'm on Win 10 Pro 64. They are already installed. The 950 Pro 512GB Raid 0 array is my OS drive. I'm just wondering if I'm missing out on performance for not having the Samsung NVMe driver installed (which it won't let me install...). Also I'm still looking into this lag that feels like it happens everytime something gets accessed/changed.

 

Be happy you can't do anything with Samsung Magician. It's junkware and shouldn't be installed in any computer

 

If you have a spare HDD , you can try a fresh install of windows and see if you still face this issue, shouldn't take too long.

 

I noticed with RAID 0 that the 4K Random Reads are lower by around 4MB/S, in addition to the lag. Even Samsung recommends not to do RAID on SSDs because most of their snapiness comes from their 0 lag factor and RAID just adds overhead / lag. RAID does excel in sequential performance but if you think of it, we don't really need that sequential performance unless we are dealing with large files all day long (video editors for examples). Even then, the NVMe SSDs have awesome sequential performance as well. The NVMe drivers are a must to take full advantage of these drives and when in RAID mode you cannot install them as the IRST driver handles everything. This is why I personally install them as single drive but depending on your needs, if you find RAID benefetial for you then go for it. I feel my system is much snappier in a single drive setup.

 

Well I'm using the Win7 backup tool in Win10, backing up & creating a system image n' such on my 4TB spanned storage drive just in case. Soon as it's done backing up, I'll try without the RAID. Don't really want to go through all the trouble of disconnecting drives though, because I do remember you saying windows puts certain files on another drive if available, during install, which is undesirable.

 

I know, but there is no way around this, you must disconnect all drives. In the PREMA BIOS I can disable the HDDs (2.5" drives) in the BIOS so during setup, they don't even appear but for the 2nd NVMe SS even if you disable it, it still appears.

one thing to note though, if your drives have no data on them, then you can install Windows as long you do a diskpart/clean on all the other drives so they aren't even initialized as MBR or GPT, this way the Windows installer will not place the boot files on them since they are not yet initialized/partitioned and thus, the moment you open disk management while in Windows, you will get a prompt to initialize them as GPT or MBR. That's the only way around not physically removing them and having a proper installation on just the OS drive

 

Why not use a Win PE boot drive and format them from there separately. After which you can install Windows just as normal.

 

So I disable the 2 2TB drives in BIOS, break up the RAID array, boot the Windows USB Drive, Format & Initialize/Partition both 950 Pros, then delete the Partitioning, etc on one 950 Pro before installing to the 1 that is still partitioned for the Windows install?

Also, if I expand/span the OS drive onto the 2nd 950 Pro, am I going to have problems installing the NVMe driver?

 

1) precisely, run the diskpart /clean command on both NVMe SSDs, then only partition one with an OP of at least 10%, I recommend keeping the drive @ 400 GB

so you do:

400.1 x 1024 = 409,702.4
then add 565 MB to that value (system partitions / reserve)

so 409,702.4 + 565 = 410,267.4

now round that value up to 410,268, that's the value you need to enter for the partition

why did I do 400.1x1024 instead of 400x1024? because if you don't add the 0.1 then the partition appears as 399.9 GB, messes with my OC so that 0.1 fixes that but making the partition to an equal 400.1 GB which appears as 400 GB in Windows

2) Regarding spanning, I didn't try it if it would still allow you to install the NVMe driver but bear in mind, I read on the OC Forums that when spanning, TRIM doesn't work properly so I wouldn't span an SSD. I only span my 2x2TB HDDs for a total of 4TB partition for my videos

games go on the 2nd SSD and the first SSD is for Windows