*** Official Clevo P870DM/Sager NP9870-G Owner's Lounge - Phoenix has arisen! ***

Was able to overclock the cpu to 4.4ghz, -80mv, 130 turbo power, using throttlestop also. No throttling during gaming this time! Benchmark below

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/8339623

 

That's why we created this thread bro so that we don't overload this busy thread with overclocking results and/or settings

Clevo Overclocker's Lounge

 

Lol...if you look at the previous 20 plus posts in this thread it's all about OC settings/results . Don't think that other thread is working out

 

With 217 pages in just a few days, I think it's working out pretty darn well and on Turbo Mode


I actually created that thread when one user here was complaining that this thread is becoming over flooded with BIOS / OC settings

post whatever you wish wherever you wish, I just suggested this as you would get better feedback / responses in that thread which is all about overclocking

 

No problem here! I'm new to sager and clevo systems, so with me having a sager NP9870S I thought that the clevo thread was for clevo only. It turns out they are all the same system

 

NP Man.

Clevo makes the base unit/chassis, then they sell it to system builders/resellers like HIDevolution, SAGER, Mythlogic, Eurocom, Origin PC, etc.


they then put their logos/branding on it and might even change the name like my unit is a Eurocom Sky X9 but it's the exact same laptop as yours which is the same as the Origin PC Eon 17-SLX which is exactly the same laptop as the EVOC P870DM-G, etc

Welcome to the P870DM bandwagon by the way

 

Good info right there! Thanks

 

We get listed as the main American distributors a lot so you will often see both model numbers together.

Enjoy your machine.

 

@Phoenix > Lmao
... when given the choice to go left or go right ...​

 

I believe they were set up by some of the founders of the pre dell alienware which would explain that.

 

@Meaker@Sager
Sí, the Sibling Rivalry's alive & well
6700k FTW​

 

I would have chosen alienware (left) back in the core2duo/turion days when they actually made unique systems (pre dell). It seems like sager/clevo/etc are the only ones left. MSI isn't too bad but they need to also move away from bga. Ill always love my alienware m9750!

 

I for one would want to like MSI. They seem like pushing boundaries. But.... They seem to do some bad things too. Like, they have 2XGTX980 in a laptop, but did not provide the power for it. So laptop battery heats, consumes, and when it reaches zero, you cannot use those 2 GTX980 inside. Not to mention that this process can blow it up, there were hundreds of such cases with mp3 players in the long forgotten past.

I would avoid MSI until they sort things out, even though they had tried to introduce revolutionary things, like mechanical keyboard, or water cooling, or 2XGTX980 in a laptop.

 

Back with a day 3 update:

So, I know I'm an idiot. The possibly failed delid of the first processor just made me itch to do it again...

So I did...

And despite this one being significantly harder I successfully completed it. There were two corners which had HUGE amounts of adhesive (visibly leaking), I should've snapped a pic because it was INSANE! It took way too long to get through, and a super tiny part of the razor I was using broke. I "noped" out of there and started going from the two sides I had already gotten through. I had my old processor as kind of an under the hood diagram of where to cut and what to be careful of, so I was able to very smoothly cut through the huge gunk from side to side.

Plopped in some good ol' CLU and umm... it seems worth it? Very much?

Before delid: peaked 86 @ 4.5 GHz (-75 +120W) WITH: ambient temps dropped, big fan blowing into my CM SF-17 Storm cooler, propped at a 45 degree angle for airflow

After delid: peaked 75 @ 4.5 GHz (-75 +120W) WITH: an old desk blocking good airflow

Both with IC Diamond Paste. I'll go back later and apply CLU ontop of the IHS.

Just can't help the satisfaction of doing it yourself! (though if anyone else has this issue don't do what I did!)

 

​

Ah yes. Like the end of the Muscle Car Era, beginning in 1972 for 'Emissions'. I posted about my Love Affair with Pontiac's Firebird T/A 100pages back.

'1974 Trans Am SD455: We drive the last Muscle Car'​

Spoiler: Phoenix Has Arisen

AutoWeek / Barret-Jackson: The original muscle car era is usually defined as ending in 1974, but that’s being generous. Thanks to stricter emission controls, most other American muscle cars had long since lost their thunder by then. In truth, the muscle car era stretched as late as 1974 because of one car, a lone hold-out that could mix it up with almost any favorite from the 1960s – the Pontiac T/A with 455 Super Duty V8.

Stick your head inside this 1974 T/A and you know what it smells like? High school. Craig Jackson graduated from high school in 1977. By then, of course, the muscle-car era was dead and buried and we were all wallowing around in Pintos and Datsun B210s. But the T/A we got to drive, the one you see here, was still a muscle car, the last muscle car. It was like the last buffalo, only faster and with 395 lb-ft of torque.

"The muscle-car era stretched as late as 1974 because of one car," wrote Barret-Jackson's Steve Statham.

This was that car.

"This is the end of the era," said Craig Jackson, mashing the throttle on the T/A ...

... the 'last' Muscle Car ...
mash the throttle fellas
__________________

Gentlemen, have no fear: 800 Horsepower for 2016

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Just make sure your IHS makes even contact with the heatsink, mine doesn't so CLU ends up being a waste for me.

 

Good to know, I'll keep that in mind. Might even try that Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut since people's reports make it out to be small but still noticably better than ICD.

I past 4.6 and currently can't go past 4.7 GHz on TS, keeps crashing after a minute or two. I assume this means the CPU can run at this rate, but it needs more power? I was under the impression that a CPU that can't run on a specific multipler simply crashed/BSOD's almost immediately. Also, will running my current stock BIOS inhibit increased voltage? Aka should I grab a custom BIOS (I assume prema is a very well recieved one)

I presume I should start posting in the OC thread as well, since it seems all my more pressing issues have been resolved.

 

@Cass-Olé Man, that Trans Am looks gorgeous! If I hadn't just bought my Stingray that would be a serious contender, though it most definitely will be outside my price range . (being a collectors item and all, or so it appears)

Maybe I could interest my father though, the Trans Am was his ride back in the day!

 

That's more on Intel for BGA, as it was their decision on CPUs. I don't think a lot of manufacturers were fans of that really.

 

some customers - or potentials, like myself - weren't fans of that really either ...

 

This man ↓↓↓ prefer that their *High end* gaming laptops have BGA hardware. Desktop processors are not worth it, since use of such processors in laptops result in lower quality systems... Yeah. Better with much better battery life so you can game over a prolonged time on battery, razor-thin gaming laptop design with inadequate cooling and that you can use their proprietary graphics amplifier rather than upgrade your internal graphics card. When you use Dell's proprietary graphics amplifier will the actual processor benefit from improved cooling becauce the internal gpu is deacivated and you can now use external G-sync screens. A very very nice concept.

Spoiler: MR AZOR, the well known CEO of Alienware. Now, more known for having killed AW as a brand for performance enthusiasts...

 

I hope someone gives Intel a nice kick back like the p4 days, as that's how they are getting again.

 

Welcome to the delid club. I posted it long ago as well. I would never have cleaned up the adhesive with a razer though.... a toothpick or a credit card would work. I read a bit later down the line you were returning the CPU though?

Have you tried doing a clean-install of drivers? A friend had a similar issue and a clean install fixed it.

 

Please thoroughly read info on this forum. You can used "Display Driver Uninstaller" for good results:
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

 

Yeah, originally I thought cutting into it might have done it due to the fact that I applied little pressure on the adhesive cleaning with the razor. But after using the credit card and feeling the difference, I realized even with not much pressure, the amount of force you need to scrape the adhesive off would also probably be enough to damage the PCB afterwards.

I'm pretty sure the processor is gone, But as cass said its possible that it could still work. I should check up on it and see if that's the case.

I probably won't return it, but I'll try. I read on another forum that someone failed their delid and intel RMAed, them a new CPU. I'm sure delid doesn't fall under Intels warranty, but can't hurt if I try right?

EDIT: Oh if by return you meant the Amazon return, well I'm not sure if I could do that now that I delided (although that's if they noticed it after I use a silicon adhesive. Honestly, I'd kind of be doing the next person who gets it a favor ). I've been working on my stuff for finals, but I want to see if I can push this past 4.7 GHz. If not I may try returning it and just trying a 4.7 + delid off Silicon lottery.

 

For the next processor :

 

Another thing I forgot to mention. Coming from the AW 17xR3 & AW 18, This thing is a dream to disassemble. I think this was the only laptop that I had enough confidence in tearing down completely without a video guide, mainly because of how easy it was.

I was also very impressed with the internals and how they're configured, some of the best designing I've personally seen with gaming laptops.

 

That's Vivian from HIDevolution

 

I do thank you for that.

Just for the record, I wouldn't say I was complaining, but rather pointing out things were becoming OT.

 

ohhh so it was j00

I'm glad you mentioned it, that thread turned out to be a great success and has the most exciting posts

 

Howdy guys and gals,
Have any of you experienced a completely abrupt laptop shutdown with this model?
Mine seems to be doing so when the slave GPU reaches 85C.

The two GPU's were running at a 15C difference under load, but I've since removed the restrictive foil and black plastic from inside the bottom cover. That gave me a 5C difference between the two. Ran Unigen Valley again and as soon as the GPU 2 reached 85, it shut down.

My Kill-A-Watt is reporting a ~280W power draw. I have 2x330W PSU's, but sadly no AC-100 converter box. Even so, I don't think I'm pulling too much from the one power supply.

Disabling SLI seems to be a temporary fix, which makes me think the GPU2 is the culprit. Possibly faulty vrm's or power fets?

All this running stock BIOS/vBIOS, no overclocking. Fan profile set to Auto.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


It runs fine if I set the fans to max.

 

Yes I did, twice. I was monitoring the stability of the offsets and then I had an abrupt shutdown. I figured this was because of the power settings of the laptop, I turned off hibernation and sleep. My fan profiles are set to overclock. It is working fine now

 

Agreed. I think perhaps we could use a thread for each model, but you've done a great service with what's been posted already!

 

Thanks dsp, I'll check those settings tomorrow and let you know what I find.

 

@Papusan @Phoenix

Just saw wingnut playing around with the 870DM, the build quality seems plasticky? Kinda gives off that cheap feeling? :|

 

The internal chassis is made of plastic yes, this improves weight and durability, it certainly wont feel like a cheap machine however.

 

yes it is kinda plasticy, Alienware has much higher quality in terms of chassis build but working on this machine is super easy. I was never able to open the Alienware 18 I had before, like even if I removed all the screws, when it cam to the part of actually removing the mid part and opening it I was never able to do it. Maybe because I didn't have a prying tool back then but it was very hard to work on. This Clevo laptop, even a small child can work on it due to how super easy and well engineered from the inside it is.

 

Maybe don't let your kid work inside though even though they may manage

 

Thanks for the info.


Is yours gold plated or?

 

what's gold plated? nothing's gold plated but I'm not sure what you mean

 

Because dubai

 

I'm satisfied with the whole machine... The performance from this beast is absolutely exceptional. +11.70 in Cinebench 11.5 and barely above 132 sec in Wprime 1024M with a 4 core i7 with ok temp in a laptop is quite rare to say the least. The same with the graphics performance from the single 980. The cooling is also top. That is to say... Perfect match for me . There is no other option, if you want raw performance from a laptop today and hate BGA Crap. The possibility of Sli is also a big + for this machine.

Edit:
I am very pleased that Clevo choose clean plastic on the palm rest. The solution Dellienware created on Aw 14/17 "Elitist" and 18 "Viking" was a big fiasco... Dellienware still use the thin junk coat on the palm rest on their new slim Echo BGABooK's. I hate this on AW machines.

 

Yeah, Alienware has great chassis material. The mid part, are you referring to the peeling of the top portion just above the keyboard to get access to beneath the palm rest? That's probably the scariest part. I think I just used a butter-knife to peel away at it; I just went at an angle and never scratched or dented it (it was scary as hell though)! This part was probably the part that hindered me most in taking the thing apart.

 

I am not sure if that is offensive.

Seems a bit wrong to think like that though.

 

This laptop has been amazing for me also. I just picked it up a few days ago but having major buyers remorse and may return it to Sager. Given pascal is releasing very soon I don't feel that dropping 3200 bucks on a machine that is outdated already was a smart idea; especially since I hear sager doesn't like offering future GPU upgrades. I will probably send it back and wait for Sager to offer the 1080M SLI option.

 

Actually, it is up to Clevo if they offer upgrade options.

But you should take into account that only the GPU costs around 1000Eur.

 

Yeah upgrading doesn't make sense for the price either. I spoke with the sager sales rep and he told me it would be a couple of months between receiving the NVidia 1080/1070m sample and releasing a new model, so that is definitely too long for me to wait. But then again, Nvidia might have sent out pascal samples a while ago and new notebook could launch in June.

 

Do what now? Shall I send you a cookie?

 

From @Phoenix

 

Nah, I'm good with just a ride from your house to burj khalifa and back on your gold plated ferrari/lamborghini/mclaren/r35