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    *** Official Clevo P870DM/Sager NP9870-G Owner's Lounge - Phoenix has arisen! ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by NordicRaven, Sep 22, 2015.

  1. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    I don't remember exactly, but one of the side contain the main ram slots. At least for the newer P870DM2-3 models.

    Edit: @Dr. AMK Maybe play with your different ram sticks vs. different ram slots to trigger the bios? You haven't much more to lose http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-overclockers-lounge.788975/page-613#post-10379479

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-overclockers-lounge.788975/page-613#post-10379602

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-overclockers-lounge.788975/page-613#post-10379548
     
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    Good idea, thank you, I'll try all of it tonight, I have nothing to loos :). I have 2 different ddr4 brands I'll try playing with them in all slots maybe the demon will comes out :mad:
     
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    so it could be busted RAM or a busted RAM slot.
     
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    Yes it could be, I'll try tonight, but I think the problem will be the MB mostly, hope that I can replace it with warranty like you did with yours, but I'm far away, and up to now I feel that my problem is not important enough to get Eurocom support attention, even by advises from them, I already taged them before.
    When I lost my 2 gtx 980m @woodzstack is one helped me to replace them, I hope that I can find someone to help me this time as well :(
     
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    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    hey there, need help again, just send me a PM and I would be glad to help.
     
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    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    your so funny Papusan....lol arrows pointing and everything..
     
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    Hi my friend, hope that you are doing well, you have all my laptop details already even the invoice, the motherboard has issues and I;m getting black screen as you see in my posts. I'll PM you, but please read all what we discussed here to know all what happen.
     
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    Delidded the 6700k with conductonaut. Dropped temps at least 20C. Can stress test FPU at 4.5 when it could barely do it at 4.2.

    83C at aida64 FPU only, at 1.288V (-25mV adaptive)

    This chip isn't the greatest but I should get 200mhz more out of it for daily running for similar temps

    When the adhesive let go with an almighty crack I almost shat myself. I was expecting shards of CPU to fall out of the delid tool
     
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    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    Your laptop motherboard is dead. What your describing is death.... in its electronic form, pure and simple. I recommend a large stick to beat the horse with.
     
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    Thanks for your kind explanation,

    Please let me know if I can buy that "large stick" you mentioned from you to make sure it's compatible with my laptop, I don't like to invest more and get stuff will not use or will not work to fix the problem :D

    PM sent to you, let's see what is my options will be.
    Thank you again for your kind support.
     
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    time to get a new motherboard!!!!
     
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    Yes indeed... I have some places to buy, please let me know if you know any place or any members has one used or new. You are the one who gives me the patience insist to keep this laptop, I saw what you are doing to keep it alive and really admire that, I respect all what you are doing and following your achievements, good luck with the 1070 SLI or even the 1080's who knows it seems that you will never stop :).
     
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    mod - plz delete this post too :)
     
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    pls delete
     
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    I'm getting a throttle at 4.5 when I stress cache

    You can see the throttle that TS detects (it flashes red occasionally too) and in HWinfo too. What's not shown is that the average CPU speed over time in HWinfo shows about 4300mhz

    HWinfo report tells me every limit (PL1 PL2 PL3 PL4) is way high (400W) - except for under "SA/Uncore Overclocking" there is an "IccMax = 20.0A"

    Undervolting the SA in TS FIVR page seemed to reduce the amount of it (certainly less of the flashing red EDP warning on the TS box), but didn't make it go away, lowering the cache ratio seemed to have no effect

    Which BIOS setting fixes this correspond to? I have all three ring/uncore/system agent pages unlocked and limits set high in the BIOS as per Phoenix' 4.5GHz OC youtube vid

    [​IMG]
     
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    Why not put the same offset voltage for Cashe? Or you haven't put in voltage? Can your chip run at lower voltage or is this what works for your chips?

    [​IMG]
     
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    I havent got on to lowering it yet at x45.

    I needed -25mV core for 4.5 to be stable pre delid but didn't really check too hard since it thermal throttled so easily I spent time instead on the 4.4 profile (where I did have the cache at -60mV along with core). Since post delid temps are down (FYI heat wave here it was 28C overnight when I captured that screenshot) I will test lowering it - after this last stupid throttling limit is sorted
     
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    Doh. Blonde moment. I did a NVRAM reset a couple of days ago and forgot to edit the cpu current limits back from auto and their low premabios turbo limits, to unlimited. Throttlestop, even though it looked like it changed all those power limits, mustnt have been changing everything. Undervolted system agent -100mV and now there is almost no throttle, I think I noticed it for a fraction of a second on FPU stress only at 4.5

    This CPU is far from the greatest. I got it down to -45mV core/cache on 4.5, perfectly stress test stable. It reports 90-95W package power on the same stress test compared to your readout of 80W at 4.6!
     
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    Yeah the 6 and 7 series starts climbing pretty quick at that point.
     
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    You can have a free US forwarder address service like mine if you really want it.

    Sent from my Mobile phone.
     
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    It's not going to work in the P870. Due to the mounting hole positions, the only machine it will work in is the GT73.
     
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    yeah, i'm not fussed it not fittting: the 1070 is a decent GPU. just waiting on @Prema to unlock the vbios!
     
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    The core position on the above 1080 is still different.
     
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    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    what would i need to do to take the 19v from the GPU power ports and down to 12v?

    thinking of attaching some LED light strips to see how well lit it will be.

    EDIT: is there even a kit that'll take the 19v and be small enough to fit into the laptop?
     
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    @thegh0sts, may I ask you a question? Why are you using crappy FHD panel with 1070? Get 4K 8bit AUO :D
    And your GPU is non-g-sync? Since you have "G-sync disabled" in sig :( I thought that there are too g-sync versions according to eurocom site.
     
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    not spending a s***-ton of money on a 4K panel nor do i have the interest to do a complete teardown for a screen.

    both the GPU and panel are G-sync compatible, it's the motherboard that's causing gsync to be disabled since the board doesn't recognise the GTX 1070 as a "licensed" GPU based on its ID. If there's one last BIOS update by @Prema then that might solve the problem.
     
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    Damn, so GTX 1070 G-Sync for me is still not good option to upgrade. :/ I'll have to wait a little bit longer...

    Panel itself is cheap. Resellers want sick ammount of cash for it. Try to search for display on your own, It will be 1/3 or in worst case 1/2 of reseller price. Upgrade from FHD to 4K itself is totally awesome, now I can't look on any other lap with FHD (GT72, GX60, HP EliteBook Dreamcolor... even these panels now look totally crappy for me).
     
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    it works you just need to reflash it....no big deal.
     
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    You would be best off designing your own little PCB for that kind of thing.
     
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    trying to find where in the manual that says what those GPU power ports output and i can't find it....bah!
     
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    Service manual pages 72 & 73. (Top two pins power bottom two ground.)
     
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    looking and i don't see where it says 19.5v.
     
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    so two pins have power and so how is that divided?

    EDIT: i think i can scavenge the connectors from this because they look the same as the one with the GTX 980.

    https://www.moddiy.com/products/4%2dPin-Mini-GPU-Connector-Extension-Cable-(40cm).html

    if i did buy the module would both + wires be soldered to the IN and the others to OUT?
     
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    They're divided to divvy up the current, making thinner wires possible.

    For your leds it doesn't require hooking up all four pins, just one voltage and one ground is more than sufficient. After soldering both 'IN' wires measure the voltage on the 'OUT' pads when the system is running using a multimeter. Adjust the blue trimpot until it yields the voltage demanded by the led strip. Power down, hook up the leds and measure again when powered up and make a final adjustment to the pot. Under load the voltage will drop and you'll want to have the leds run close to their specification value.
     
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    so 2 pairs for input, 1 pair for output?
     
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    No, 1 pair input, 1 or more for output. There's enough power on that port to light up a score of Christmas trees using just 1x voltage and 1x ground. No need to bother soldering the other two wires, then. Your little buck converter wouldn't be able to handle that anyway.

    While you have that 12V power at your disposal; there's some juice left after the led strip, so consider a desktop drive. A 3.5" 10TB would fit the dual-2.5" bay, so it'd hold 2.5x the maximum capacity currently possible. To get that 12V to the drive would mean soldering the voltage and ground wire to the appropriate pins on the mb's sata connector.

    Kinda weird they haven't actually made this an option on these 12V systems, come to think of it ...
     
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    Oh ok. so does that mean i could attach 2 plugs on the output? i'm no electronics expert so let me know if that's now how it works.

    i just want to see what it's like to have LED underlighting where the grills are or even on the edge of the case if i could mod the edge of the bottom cover :D
     
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    I just ordered a new Motherboard from Germany, the company name is CEG-HARDCORECUSTOM. It cost me almost $365 including shipping to my location, This is the best price I was able to get.
    I hope this will fix my problem after all.
    Will update my results after reciving the MB, install it and do all testing needed.

    Thanks for all respected members who have helped me.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-MAINBOA...-WARRANTY-12-MONTHS-/302002364721?#vi-content
     
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    you probably won't have the prema bios either.
     
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    @Prema already sent me my personal BIOS a month ago, thanks for him.

    Sent from my Mobile phone.
     
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    no dramas.

    just repasted my CPU with ICD7.
     
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    still deciding if i want to add LED strip lights to the bottom of the case cover :p
     
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