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Personally, I'd call or email. If you are going to spend this much, you should get what you want. Ask if you can purchase without ram, see if they can source the ram for you at a decent price, or see if you can mail the ram to them and have them install it for you.

 

I just want whatever they are charging for it off my purchase price. It's a ripoff . I could get 2x8GB of 2666Mhz RAM for the price increase in 1x8GB 2133 to 2x8GB 2133. I'm ordering without the OS/HDD/SSD so them installing it is not really going to benefit me. If they have to validate it with their RAM, then I won't be buying. I'll see on Monday.

 

Well that's one way to do it! LOL!

 

Easy new delidding tool coming out is pretty cool....

http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=148622

 

Not sure if I like that tool. It sure looks easy, but its slow, so theres pressure on the pcb for a short time (unlike the hammer-vice method where its short and instant).

 

I'm a bit clumsy when it comes to this, de-lidding. Is there any place or anyway to buy a pre de-lidded skylake cpu? (with new tim).

 

http://siliconlottery.com/

I believe its 50$ for delid. You can buy pre binned chips too.

 

If you are not confident it's not a bad deal I suppose.

 

I think there is a somewhat low risk delidding tool called delidmate? Might be cheaper then shipping a CPU and paying 50 to get it delid.

 

TY!

Yes, but for someone not so experienced + the tim, I think it's worth it. Busy home also!
Em I correct when I think i5 is without HT compared to the i7?

 

Yes and slightly lower clock speeds at default.

 

lol that delid tool ROFL cant believe they making something like that.

 

well, I suppose if you do it enough, like the guy who made it since he does a lot with overclocking, it makes sense. repetitive tasks lead to innovation. might not be worth it if you are just doing one processor every couple / few years.

 

whats so funny about that? thats the method i used to delid my 4790K sure it involves more material to start with but imho way smoother and safer than the razerblade method!

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No need for that as there is a timer build into the Mods.
Once activated its holding your system hostage until you fulfill the demands.
If you fail to comply it'll brick the system...LOL

Just kidding, after all we are the good guys in this game...

 

No I just found it amusing how easy it was lol.

 

It looks like something that could be 3D printed... I wonder if they will publish via open source?

 

Hello all! I'm new to the forums but have been a bit of a lurker here on the notebookreviewer.com forums for a little over a week now. I've been planning to get the Clevo p870dm-g for a little while now though because of work among other things I've had a few hiccups here and there so hopefully progress will be made this coming week. So on and so, I'm getting my clevo p870dm-g from HIDevolution since they seem like the obvious/best choice due to their pricing and among other financial options. But more to the point, I've been trying to find a 4K solution for the computer that offers g-sync. I know you have the option of choosing 4K w/o g-sync or FHD (1080p) w/g-sync but I've been trying to find a solution that doesn't make compromises. I've talked to the HID sales rep and found that the 4K panel is the AUO B173ZAN01.x. Why 4K? Because I also intend to use the laptop as a workstation when it comes to apps like clip paint studio/manga studio 5, corel painter 2016, sketchbook pro 7 and so forth (those of which I know scale well) and want to make native 4K res stuff as I grow more experienced w/o having to buy an external 4K monitor (yet). So on and so; so far I've only heard rumors that Nvidia is still validating the AUO B173ZAN01.x panel for G-sync but haven't been able to find out whether they've made progress on it and other 17.3 inch panels. So do any of you have more information or can lead me in the right direction? All I know is that according to the sales rep I spoke with that the panel can "technically" support g-sync but the issue being if I were to choose a 4K panel in its present state I would have to choose a 980m SLI or 980 desktop grade w/o G-sync, and if the panel gets validated in the near future, I would have to replace not only the screen but the GPUs to ones with g-sync (which based on HIDevolutions current pricing could cost as much as $1000 to $1225 dependent on the graphics solution).

So on and so forth...do you guys have any helpful info I could use or who I could get in touch with? I already have a clevo that's FHD 1080p with G-sync so I know how good it is, but I'd like to be able to give my current one to my brother once I get the p870dm. Thanks in advance!

 

They'll shave $50 off the price if you decide not to get RAM. I've already asked them this very question.

Don't you have a brand new AW18?

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Welcome to the forum, I take it you have been saving some energy up before jumping in as that's quite the wall of text you have there Try to break it up and maybe condense it down as it will make it a lot easier to read!

As soon as you see 4k G-sync offered you will know the panels will have been cleared.

Is there any particular reason for wanting 4k? For gaming experience a 1080p and raising the clock rate of the display and applying AA should give a better experience.

 

Cool. And AW is unusable.

 

I think the alienware would make an excellent doorstop

 

What happened to it?

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Speaking of raising clock rate of the 1080p display. Anyone have any idea on the rough OC potential of the LG IPS panel Eurocom uses?

 

Going to try to finish the review this evening... just not enough hours in a day, LOL. I or @Prema will notify in this thread when the review is finalized.

Enjoy the teaser video in the meanwhile.

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My
Clevo P870DM-G Review

 

I've currently got it at 75Hz, no issues at all. I know somebody else said they had it running at 100Hz.

Eurocom uses the same 1080p LG panel that everybody else uses - it's the only one currently available anywhere.

 

I play the demo from that version and the version before (music) every so often just for nostalgia

I always remember crossing my fingers that the barrel would move in the optimum way

 

Do you notice any difference between 60 and 75hz at all? I had a samsung PLS monitor before and I simply cant see the difference between 110hz and 60hz. Might have something to do with the fact I am horribly nearsighted....

 

Hi

There is a ton of pages and I will not lie, I did not go thru most of them.

I read that Prema bios is only from resellers? So I'd have to purchase from a reseller to receive it? Will it ever just be released publically if I buy this laptop used from someone (eventually)?

 

from 60hz to 75h there is a difference, juts try dragging a window in a circular motion on the desktop and you'll see how jerky it is, but with 75hz it's buttery smooth. Anything above that is really hard to notice though.

 

I have a P770ZM-G, which is a 75hz gsync monitor, and I could notice a difference between that and my Dell M6600 60hz

 

ouch, thats cold! ...and funny!

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Well, it depends on your GPU. Going from 60 to 110 means your panel can now display up to 110 FPS. If your GPU can't pump out 110FPS, then having 110Hz will do exactly nothing, other than cause screen tearing.

Also, not many people can really see the difference once you hit 60FPS+. That's why 60FPS is often the sweet spot people look for.If you can spot the difference, great. If not, then just scale back your screen to 60Hz.

And no, I can't personally see a difference between 60 and 75Hz. Then again, I don't play those ultra fast-paced FPS games. That's usually where people want that extra refresh rate, since it apparently helps in those games.

That LG panel is 60Hz, and unless your vendor over-clocked it to 75Hz for you, it's only running at 60Hz. The difference you're seeing is likely G-SYNC at work (unless you yourself set it to 75Hz).

Any time you see a 17" IPS panel advertised as being 75Hz, that means it's been factory-OCd. The only 17" IPS panel available currently is made by LG, and it's stock refresh rate is 60Hz.

EDIT: I meant to say the only 17" FHD IPS panel available is the LG 60Hz one.

 

Placed an order for the P870DM-G at XoticPC. Hoping to not be disappointed. Have to sell one of my two machines below to make up for the spending.

 

if u choose to sell the P650 im sure ull be dearly missed in the owner's lounge bro

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Depends on whichever sells first. I have both for bid on ebay under the name "d0wnw4rd".

 

It's live now.

EUROCOM SKY X9 - Desktop-Laptop-ÜberBook - Overclocking Performance Results | Page 5

 

Sold! Just need a buyer of Batman!!!

 

Yes, only from Prema partners, for now. Yes, eventually, it will be released publicly. This is normal for all of Prema's BIOSs.

 

Wow, this Skylake CPU can undervolt great! I was hitting 98-99C with throttling on wPrime at at stock. I set voltage to 1.000V Static (although reading 1.1-1.15V) and it's peaking at no more than 80C at stock 4GHz. I was a bit concerned at first, but now it seems these things can run cool and undervolt great.

 

broadwell E 10 core now, clevo gotta make that into a laptop.

@Mr. Fox, ssd portion is 950 pro for nvme pcie ssd.

 

They won't make a Broadwell-e. The Extreme processors are like server processors. Intel has agreed with server mb manufacturers (sure to market pressure) not to revise the socket and chipset for 2 generations. Broadwell-E is the second generation on that socket and chipset, meaning it is only viable for a year. The r&d doesn't make sense for that socket for a single year. So beg for Skylake-e and cannonlake-e version mid summer to January 2017.

 

That may be due to messed up settings. As you discovered, default voltage is way too high.

 

well they first said going to stop broadwell E and skip it go straight for skylake E, which then broadwell E will still come out. imho if they do skip it'll be kabylake E

but yeah 10 cores owns.

also on that front, ivy-E lasted shorter than a year i believe.

 

I'm talking Clevo, not Intel! What the hell are you talking about! We're talking laptops supporting chips. Keep up! Clevo won't put a laptop that supports Broadwell-e because it doesn't make sense. Skylake-e was originally planned for summer 2016, but rumours say it may be pushed to Jan 2017. Kabylake-e had never been documented or rumored. If cannonlake has the yields in performance sector, they may jump directly to it, but that is all speculative at this point. What isn't speculative is my annoyance. If I wasn't on my phone, caps would have been used on most of this. Know your hardware!!! Know refresh cycles. Know that the p570wm was niche and didn't have the sales projected, so was never updated for Haswell-e. Know that if you really want a Skylake-e laptop, you better hit the forums and drum up support. Not just talk, proof people will buy. Bring that proof to resellers. Otherwise, stop blowing this smoke out of wherever it is coming from.

I'm sorry, I've told people this exact thing a lot already!!! GRRRR!!!

 

P870DM-G Repaste William Tell style - with close up look at mobile desktop GTX 980 200W card. Now with 1080p/60!

 

i think you need to relax and stay calm lol. all i did was mention broadwell E will have 10 cores and put clevo name in there, as for really adopting that cpu into its laptop line up i know very well how slim the chances are for it to happen.

i plan for portable machine though if clevo doesnt support these 8 core/10 cores beast in future.

 

lol all i was thinking when watching that clip was like: BEEP BEEP! whoosh...

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Ha ha, very nice video!

Now "Notebook Virtuoso" is becoming a new meaning!