*** Official Clevo P870DM/Sager NP9870-G Owner's Lounge - Phoenix has arisen! ***

If that screen is 60Hz in W10 then you are using old vBIOS...its 75Hz after updating it...drop me a mail...

 

Sorry, meant video is 1080p/60. LCD is 1080p/75 and overclocks to 100Hz nicely.

 

Hmmm, very strange. Clevo is obstructing the second vga fan intake in the middle of the unit with a foil adhesing to the grill (see attached photo). I wonder if this is the reason why my slave vga card has much higher temps than the primary vga card lokated lateral to it. Or is the smaller fan in the middle just a bad performer? Temp difference between my cards in sli is about 10 grade celcius.

I think this picture better illustrate what I mean. VGA FAN 2 does NOT get any air intake from the bottom like the other two fans (VGA1 and CPU). Is this a design problem?

Bernhard

 

What test/benchmark pushes it to 80C? I'm running a -125mV undervolt and I don't think I've seen it go past 75C during XTU stress test, 3DMARK or the few games I've tried.

 

Looks like you got the single GTX980 (200W) bottom cover instead the one for the SLI version...

This is the SLI cover:

Spoiler

 

But the GTX980 has the fans orientated exactly the same, the only difference is that two fans are used for one vga 200W card. Could someone with a sli system post his bottom cover please?

 

Thats a good point, so this could even be for a single 980m but I am still not completely understanding why they would block them anyways honestly. Premas picture looks exactly how I would want it to be, all that blocking shielding nonsense is removed.

 

Posted the proper SLI cover a page back...
You can't use it like that, it doesn't even have the air intake in the front for the second GPU.
Either get them to send you the proper cover or simply remove the orange parts yourself:

 

I ordered the laptop from CEG. So far everything went o.k. except for a missing VGA screw. Good price and nice contact. I will report back how it goes after I contacted them.

Anyway, I can not imagine how the single gpu version of the bottom cover can work with the desktop 980, because there are also 2 vga fans....

 

Hmm, CEG replied that this is the original cover from Clevo Germany distribution. They say there are no spare parts at the moment.
So I obviously have to remove the parts hindering airflow by myself...

I strongly believe there must be only one version of the bottom cover and Clevo messed something up. I advise anybody with this unit to check his bottom cover.

By the way: whats the funktion of the black parts on the bottom cover? Isn´t airflow even better when they are also removed?

 

That is what @Prema suggested you to do!

As far as I remember the GPU's are not only cooled by the fans through the bottom but also through the front. So removing these (black parts) should produce better results.

 

EUROCOM SKY X9 - 4.7GHz CPU Overclocking on air! - Album on Imgur << please feel free to comment while it is "most viral"

 

Most viral? No way, I just got a flu shot I'm not touching that.

I come back from dealing with house stuff for a few days and the thread has grown 6 pages, slow down!

Also, someone lend me their Phoenix until February, thanks!

 

Clevo is known for blocking off some of their vents. Have a look at the bottom panel of the Clevo N155RD for example - lots of the vents are blocked off.

 

So, even the single 980 = u can remove the "block" and have some extra good airflow? I think I'll do it!

 

So, even the single 980 = u can remove the "block" and have some extra good airflow? I think I'll do it!

 

So my order on XoticPC had some weird technical issues which somehow deducted money from my paypal... without creating an order or order#. Now I lose another day or two on my order

 

No opening the intake in front of the slave GPU would reduce the airflow over the GTX980 GPU.
It is closed for single GTX980 setups in order to increase airflow over the GPU and reduce overall housing temperature.
It is only open for SLI setups to distribute airflow over both cards.

 

Here we go... don't sweat the small stuff, guys. Not a big deal.
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OK, copy that!.
Still, would be interesting to test this out?

 

I'm a long-time reader of this forum and about to buy the P870DM-G, and had one question I never understood. Most of you guys seem very skilled with computers, at least enough to do relatively 'simple' things like installing RAM, CPU, HDD, etc. So why does it seem many of you don't buy a barebone Clevo (from rjtech.com for example), and purchase the other components at a cheaper price and install those yourself? This easily saves a lot (!) of money.

Are there any major advantages to purchasing complete systems (vs. barebone) that I'm not aware of?

 

Actually, it doesn't always save money. Sometimes, it is cheaper through resellers and distributors. Check it out!

 

If you need help with the order, just let me know. Email me or hop in to our chat and I can help out.

 

@pat@XOTICPC Sent you an email.

 

Updated page 5 regarding memory performance with...

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As you can see in these two screen shots, the graphics (gaming) performance is unchanged, but the physics performance is a nice bump.

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Hey Guys been following the thread for awhile now and just wanted to drop on to get some advice for my purchase. I am looking to place an order with mythlogic later this week and i'm hoping they will do the requested settings.

Mobile Chassis MYTHLOGIC Phobos 8715S Chassis (Clevo P870DM-G)
Mobile Display 17.3" Full HD (1920x1080) IPS Matte LCD ( nVIDIA G-Sync Tech 970/980M)
Monitor Calibration Free MYTH Professional Monitor Color Calibration
CPU Intel Core i7-6700K 4.20GHz, 8MB Cache, Quad Core Processor (91W) (Unlocked)
Thermal Compound Free IC Diamond Thermal Compound
System Memory 16GB (2 x 8GB) , PC4-19200, 2400MHz DDR4 SODIMM
Video Adapter nVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 8GB GDDR5 nV GPU Performance Scaling + Desktop Class
Video Adapter Accessories Additional AC Adapter (330W) and Power Converter Box Required for CPU+GPU Overclocking
m.2 Slots 1 Samsung 850 EVO 500GB m.2 SATA III 6GB/s Solid State Drive
Hard Drive 1 1TB 7200 32MB Cache SATA Notebook Hard Drive
Network Card Killer DoubleShot-X3 Pro: 2x Killer E2400 LAN + Killer 1535 Wireless-AC
Bluetooth Integrated Bluetooth 4.0
Operating System Windows 10 Home 64-Bit


The primary use will be daily gaming with some graphics design work. I am going to request they reapply all paste, overclock panel to 100mhz, and use CLU. Do you guys have any suggestions on which Overclocks i should do on hardware? would you recommend any changes on the build ? any other advice would be helpful. (EDIT) Also do you guys prefer the killer double shot network card or intel ?

This will be my first order with mythlogic. Do you know if they put branding on the laptop and what experiences do you have with their company. I do some work in esports and spend a lot of time at events so im hoping to promote their products if they do good work.

 

Well, as mentioned above, it's not always cheaper.

Take the P770DM-G at rjtech for example. It starts at $1279 with an LCD and the 970M. If you decide to not get the 970M, they'll shave $350 off the price. The problem with that is the 970M costs around $500 or so with shipping and taxes. So it doesn't make sense to buy the 970M on your own.

On the other hand, they'll charge you $450 for the i7-6700K, which you can buy on your own for around $400. Their prices for RAM aren't bad, though you can get a slightly better deal on newegg. Their SSD prices are a little higher too.

It's important to remember that:

a) Sometimes OEMs get much better pricing on components than you as a single consumer do (and sometimes they don't)
b) The vendor will charge a markup on any component they sell you to account for their overhead, a profit margin and the cost of warranty on said item
c) They will often not pass on the full discount of removing an item from a build, in order to encourage you to buy it from them (hence giving them a larger profit margin)
d) People on these boards very often already have their own SSD/HDD and RAM, so there's no need to buy those components.

So long story short, on some components you're better off to buy and install it yourself, on others it's obviously better to buy from the Clevo vendor, and other times it's a close call, but the convenience of having the vendor install it (not to mention the fact that if you buy it with the laptop, the vendor provides warranty service on it) means its just better/easier to get it from the vendor.

 

I've heard mostly good things about Mythlogic. As with almost any vendor, they do put branding on their products, but you can request it to be removed.

As for Killer vs Intel on the wifi card - Killer typically has better wifi speeds, while Intel tends to have a less buggy Bluetooth experience. Also, you tend to see more issues with the Killer cards than the Intel ones. But I've personally yet to have a problem with any Killer card.

I'd suggest you do the overclocking yourself, so you can take more time to experiment.

Do the new Samsung 850 Evo drives have the same performance deterioration issues as the past Evo drives?

 

No 980m SLI? I dont believe there is a large price difference on the 870dm, so might as well get it instead of single 980.

 

@Mr. Fox
I must proclaim the astounding sense of logic that you exhibit here in this video, mixed in with a touch of sarcasm that only the highly intellectual can demonstrate. It moved me so much that I had to "Walk This Way" out of my lurking mode and post my very first comment. Bravo! Bravo! Bravo! (Standing Ovation)

 

Gracias, amigo! I appreciate the kind words. And, I'm honored, especially by someone of such distinguished Vulcan intellect as Mr. Spock!

I'd give you a big bear hug, but the last time... well, you remember.

 

Inappropriate touching could lead to colorful metaphors. It would be logical ..... of course!

 

I alt tab a lot during games so i play most in windowed full screen which doesn't benefit from sli at all. also I don't see a large enough difference in results to justify extra funds.

 

When I purchased my P770ZM-G, I bought it without CPU RAM and SSD/HDD. I had these parts already so I figured I'd save some money, since RJTech was charging $425 for a 4790k when I got mine for $250 8 months prior. The RAM was mega cheap on newegg (Kingston HyperX Impact black RAM) and I already have my 840 Pro from my PC.

Now by doing this, RJTech didn't offer warranty on those specific parts. I know the RAM is lifetime, the SSD is something absurd like 10 years, and the CPU is 5 years. But with RJT not giving warranty, if those parts break, I have to find my receipt and warranty it thru the corresponding companies.

Resellers offer a warranty on all the parts they ship you, so within the first year, if the CPU starts having errors, they will take care of that instead of intel. Or if the SSD starts having block errors, they will fix that instead of going thru the samsung channels.

It's a trade off with what you want to do. Resellers, if you buy a full machine thru them, will also take the time to completely set it up so it's ready to go when it arrives. I know there are a lot of savvy people on these forums that have probably reformatted a machine a thousand times and can do it in their sleep, but it's just a nice thing to have done. Resellers also confirm that all the parts work before sending obviously.

Now if you aren't adopting parts from a previous build and just buy parts used on hardwareswap or ebay, then you can't be sure if those parts are 100% working. I can order a p870dm-g barebones without CPU RAM SSD/HDD and M.2 WLAN.

Let's say I bought a CPU from ebay, RAM from hardwareswap, SSD from here, and a WLAN card from another user here as well. I put everything in, and the laptop doesn't start up. I have to troubleshoot the entire laptop and all those parts to figure it out. Now it just got even more complicated because all the parts above work in other machines. The motherboard must be messed up! But then you have to go thru the work to prove it's the motherboard, and have to ship the entire machine back, all while not ever even getting the chance to play with the new laptop.

In order to save the hassle above, a lot of people find it worth having a reseller do all that work so you can have a wonderful machine right away. A lot of us work everyday and find less time to be able to tinker with toys, and would rather spend the time modding or benchmarking, or even playing our games, than to troubleshoot a potentially faulty laptop, that may not even be the resellers fault, since they do test it before sending. There is always the potential of shipment damage from either carelessness, temperature, humidity, etc. Lots of factors.

Sorry for the wall of text, that's just what went thru my mind when I am conflicting between using a barebones or full machine thru RJTech.

 

This is a big part of the reason too. I want to spend time fiddling around with my laptop WHILE its working, not fiddling trying to simply get it to work.

Though to be honest, RAM and SSD isn't really an issue, and its very easy to determine if either of those are at fault.

 

So I received my Laptop over a week ago and absolutely love it, one of the most gorgeous laptops I've owned.

These are my specs:-
Prime-P870DM-G_10-15: Metabox P870DM-G - G-Sync GTX 9 series 1
Diamond Compound applied to processor and graphics
Operating system: No operating system - drivers disk supplied only
Screen type: 17.3" Full HD 1920x1080 WVA with NVIDIA G-SYNC Technology
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 980 GXX 8GB GDDR5 graphics
Processor: i7-6700K CPU 4 Core 4.0GHz up to 4.2GHz 8MB Cache
RAM - up to 4 slots: 16GB DDR4 2133Mhz RAM (2 x 8GB and 2 slots empty)
M.2 slot 1: 250GB Samsung 850 EVO M.2 mini SSD - 540/500MBs
M.2 slot 2: 250GB Samsung 850 EVO M.2 mini SSD - 540/500MBs
Drive Slot 1: 1TB 7200 rpm hard disk drive
WiFi: Intel Wireless-AC 8260 2.4 / 5GHz ac/abgn +BT 4.2

Main use as reported to colleagues and girlfriend is a serious work machine for software development. Currently setup with dual boot between Ubuntu (worked without a hitch) and Windows 10.
Actual main use is gaming, specifically Elite Dangerous with VR when the commercial versions are out, and Camelot Unchained when it goes live!

Can't really contribute repasting or overclocking vids ...... this is my only contribution, 'cafe' programming like a boss in downtown Sydney - who says she ain't portable! She certainly turns heads!

This is what I saw ....



This is what onlookers actually saw...



Cheers,
Jim.

PS :-
I didn't buy the OS, but Metabox forgot to include a drivers dvd and have not got them current on their website.
I managed to pretty much get all the latest drivers from around the web, all except the driver for the fingerprint reader, so that's currently the only thing not functioning for me. If someone could point me at a download of it, would be much appreciate!

 

Have you tried the clevo or sager website?

 

The guys over at mythlogic are saying that the firmware on the gsync panels make them difficult to overclock. anyone having issues with this ?

 

Besides the #RIPbatterylife, this machine just speaks to me better than the P750ZM did when the model came out earlier this year.

Thanks to some friends' advice, keeping my P650SG and ridding the Razer (luckily I didnt buy this guy at full price). May have to remove my SSD's and transfer them over to save on funds and set the P650SG as the new family machine.


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It could a bit, but every panel is different.

 

Thanks for your input on buying barebones vs. complete systems. You gave me much to think about...!

Re. the RAM: Are there any 16GB DDR4 that are available to purchase, other than buying them as part of complete systems from re-sellers? Specifically, I'd like to know if I could buy 64GB (4x16GB)? I can't find 16GB units anywhere online. What is the brand/model of these units being shipped in the P870DM?

 

I can see some over at newegg, they seem pretty available.

 

Yep, thanks! Just found all the drivers needed on the Sager site (they werent there a week ago), Clevo has the option to search for the p870dm, but returns no results yet.

Thanks,

 

No problem, glad you got the drivers you needed

 

Here is something different. We are going to render video at 4.5GHz with Adobe Premiere and see how hot our de-lidded 6700K gets in the process. I think you'll be impressed. The video is a little sloppy because I seldom use Premiere and have little experience with it. Sorry it's not as fancy as it usually is.

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So I removed the foil on the bottom cover as advised by Prema - @Prema: thank you for this advise!

I see now lower temps on both gpus, but still the slave gpu gets about 10c hotter then the master gpu in SLI. This is my first SLI notebook. Is this behavior normal? The fan of the slave GPU is smaller, so maybe this is the reason. When benching overclocked to 1260 MHz the slave gpu reaches 90c, I find this still a little high?

Bernhard

 

Did you also remove the orange-framed black bracket in the front? See the pic @Prema provided earlier. It should be removed as well in a SLI-configuration.

Normally the slave do the "heavy" work and therefore runs a bit hotter, but 90 degrees is a lil' bit too hot imo, even when oc'ed. Maybe it's time to repaste as well?

 

@CaerCadarn: Yes, I removed the black bracket in the front as well. Maybe I will repaste.

My question to other owners of the sli version is if you also see higher slave temps and if so how high. I don´t think the slave has more work to do, I cannot see this with my sli desktop. I just think the cooling of the slave gpu in P860DM is weaker. Maybe an additional heatpipe between the 2 gpus would make sense.

 

What paste do you recommend: Kryonaut, ic diamond or even Coollaboratory ultra for repasting the gpu?
Does lapping or polishing the heatsink make any sense?

 

ICD is a very good choice for a non metal paste, if not one of the best. But a little bit tricky to apply. It's recommended to warm it up before applying. Kryonaut and GC Extreme are also good choices.

CLU at the other Hand is unmatched, but you have to be VERY careful with that! It must NOT touch any Aluminium or PCB parts or you are in serious problems! @Mr. Fox provided some very good vid's how to apply it correctly. I'm not remembering anymore, if he already posted it earlier in this thread. Or just browse UTube. There are plenty of guides.

For lapping and polishing: Sure, it helps but better ask @ajc9988. He recently did a fantastic lapping and polishing Job on his Batman!