*** Official Clevo P870DM/Sager NP9870-G Owner's Lounge - Phoenix has arisen! ***

Holy crap I love you. I was wondering why my 980 was being a turd in OCing, now it is a charm even on stock vbios.

 

Apparently my q key is defective. Bind it to my razer mouse hotkey for now.

 

I have the 6700K.
All 3 fans make somewhat a noise, but I think the midle fan(second gpu fan) fan generates more noise.
The app is just there for instant switching between different setups. I just took one of them, and so far I have the fans on automatic. The CPU spins up to 66c degrees while gaming Star Wars Battlefront, and the fan is close to dead silent. But the gpu spins up to 70c, and wants to keep the heat around 70c, therefor spinning the fans up = more noise. I'm hoping a repaste job + some user mods from this forum thread can help + vbios one day from Prema =)

Edit: Repaste job will be CLU or Thermal Grizzly. Read somewhere that CLU is a bit more dangerous on the GPU than CPU, So I might safe with Grizzly since my experience is none what soever. Going to use a good tear down video for help!

 

CLU is only dangerous if application is haphazard. If it is applied deliberately and with caution, and not applied to aluminum, it is not dangerous at all. As we are taking about Clevo GPUs the danger is mitigated by the black plastic shroud that surrounds the GPU die. Dell GPUs do not have this, so electrical tape or a layer of silicon sealant can be used to protect the small surface-mounted components from being exposed to CLU. That is most likely where you read about the danger being greater for GPUs but it's not a concern with the Clevo shroud in place.

Below is an example of the Clevo shroud versus the Dell without one for those that are not familiar with what I am referring to.

 

Aha, Thank you! Then I will try to repaste with CLU here aswell! Now I just need to find a good tear down with CLU video, hint hint

 

Please read my review and you will find what you are looking for. There is a ton of good stuff there.

EUROCOM Sky X9 Desktop Laptop ÜberBook | PremaMod.com

 

Can the PCIe connection in the P870DM support devices other than hard disks? This is clearly a noob question, but I can't find a straightforward answer.

Specifically, I want to connect a analog/digital converter ( http://www.grassvalley.com/products/advc110), which requires a firewire connection. Since P870DM doesn't have one, I was thinking perhaps I can connect the device to a PCIe to FireWire card (e.g., http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815166018), which I would then connect to a PCIe extension cable (e.g., http://www.amazon.com/PCI-E-Express-Extender-Flexible-Extension/dp/B008BZBFTG) into the laptop's PCIe connection.

Obviously I'd have to remove the keyboard to access the connection, but as a temporary solution would this be feasible?
Otherwise, anyone know of ways to connect a firewire device?

 

There are no ports to support that, but you don't need to do that. This machine has Thunderbolt 3. All you need is a simple adapter to do many things that used to require multiple standalone devices. I have not looked for one yet, but if they are not common now a Thunderbolt 3/USB 3.1 Type C to Firewire adapter should be available before long.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/01/usb-3-1-and-type-c-the-only-stuff-at-ces-that-everyone-is-going-to-use

 

This will be so much better, thanks!! I saw this firewire-thunderbolt adapter previously, but product description said it only worked for mac's.

 

You might be able to use it if you can get a Type C to Thunderbolt 1 or 2 adapter. The commonality is in the cable, so it may take some research to know for sure what will work and what will not.

The kicker is that it has to be a Type C port, which is new technology. Thunderbolt 1 and 2 uses the same port as mini-DP and Thunderbolt 3 uses USB 3.1 Gen 2 Type C, which this machine has. You need a converter to switch protocols for Firewire. Depends on what you are planning to do with it. This short video might also help. If you are wanting to convert old videos, maybe something with composite connections would be easier. Firewire is almost extinct now, or so it seems.

http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/do-firewire-to-usb-adapters-work

 

Ever thought of putting a peltier in a laptop, fox?

Edit: Also, Mr.Fox is 100% right on the undervolting. I can hold a 4.2ghz easily with a -150mv undervolt. The stock volt is stupidly high. As someone coming from sandy bridge, I am just not use to 1.3v-1.4v being a high voltage.

 

Please help me guys, I install the os in the m2 ssd and when i start i cannot choose the ssd from the bios.
I try to install again windows and the ssd is missing.. I have only the hybrid hard drive and not the ssd.
( i have already install the drivers NVMe and f6) any solution?

 

Absolutely gutted, ordered this machine from XMG on the 20th of November.

It arrived yesterday after weeks of being laptop-less and falls through its own ring after 2 minutes of heaven.

GPU temps seem to be hitting 85 degrees (C) then it just looses display and doesn't recover until I perform a hard on/off.

Gutted doesn't cover it. £2300 well spent.....

 

What is the ASIC of your card/cards? Maybe repaste GPU would help.

 

What do you mean ASIC?

The card is a single GTX 980

 

It is basically a number which represents the quality of your GPU. You can read it out with a program called gpu-z.

 

I will have a look tonight.

I'm tempted to reapply the thermal compound, with the guides here it looks easy enough to do.

That said I'm fairly reluctant having spent the amount of money I have. I don't want to void the warranty.

 

@Sherlock0486 - If the GPU gets too hot the screen will go black and you will have to do a forced shut down to recover. Before you repaste, confirm the fans are spinning up. Run the GPUs stock and be sure GPU overclock is not enabled in Control Center. When GPU overclock is enabled in Control Center you also have to be sure if the fan override is enabled that it is not set to zero.

Press FN+1 to force the fans full blast and see if the problem is gone. If it is, press FN+1 against to restore automatic fan controls and see if the problem resurfaces because the fans are not running. Also, look in the BIOS and if the option is present confirm NVIDIA GPU Scaling is set to the "Disabled" option.

 

Its very simple on this machine, it does look as easy as the videos these wonderful people have put out. First thing I did when I received the lappy from XMG was repaste. My ASIC is only 69.3% and with Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut it hits max 69c on stock clocks. I get the blank/colour screen when I try to OC the core past +140 or so though...perhaps stock voltage is too low and I need prema's vbios for 1.2v since the temps are still about 71c after OC.

Also when I try to do anything past +240 on memory, the card downclocks to minimum clocks such as 540/1****, as it seems to be a no-notification driver crash and have to restart to cure. Not sure if this is something that would be fixed with prema's vbios though, cause I keep seeing people hitting 4000 memory no problem and that's impossible for me. Maybe the thermal pads on the mem are turds? I don't know, if anyone can shed some light I would be grateful

 

So what's the low down with using a Samsung 950 Pro M.2 to boot to Windows 7? Does it work? What do you have to do to get it working? I read back a ways and there was some fragmented conversation about it.

**Edit fixed 850 to 950 Pro

Thanks Meaker!

 

See my post here : http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...the-new-batcave.776183/page-247#post-10150817

 

Just a note in case people are confused he meant the 950 pro

Don't worry too much about this number, it's only a rough guide.

 

Hi, does anyone have P870 with single 980M card? Im interested with GPU temp in this unit, since heatpipes are very long. And it comes with or without third fan?

 

Hey guys, had my p870dm for about two days now. When I play Killing floor 2 at ultra my 980m hits about 87c, is this normal? Bought from Eurocom and they put IC diamond on. Even when I just sit at the title screen it sits around 85C. I am also elevating the laptop about an inch or two.

Just for reference it idles around 41 full fan speed, and between 45-47 on auto fan. The room is sitting around 21c(70F)

 

Do you have a single 980m? Or it is a 980m SLI? Or it is a single 980 (not m)?
In any case - it seems too high. In normal scenarios you shouldn't get temps above 80, it should even be closer to 70.

 

single 980m

I ran firestrike and it did not go over 72...hmmm

 

Ended up repasting, I thought Eurocom would have done a good job...but the paste job was aweful. I'm not even sure it is IC diamond...it was supposed to come with it I believe. Ran heaven ungine for 10-15 minutes and didn't break 80.

http://imgur.com/a/8AtiX

 

What size screwdrive you used? I had bad luck with removing the screws on the back.

 

I had to use a full sized one with a wider tip instead of the smaller skinny ones. I had a lot of trouble using the small screw drivers. I ended up repasting my CPU because of the how bad the GPU was and now I am getting some odd temperatures. My system idles around 35 c with max fans on, and if I run OCCT for 10 minutes or so it peaks around 91/92 c. I tried repasting a few times but still running around the same temps. What kind of CPU temps are you guys reaching running different programs?

 

Same, I couldnt get full size ones in to the hole though. CPU temp is pretty bad on default volts, try undervolting.

 

This is definitely not IC diamond..

 

I was given a similar looking thermal paste tube from eurocom as well. Maybe the 7 carat differ in texture from the 24 carat version? I am not too familiar with all this fancy new type of thermal paste.

Edit: All good, should be IC 7.

 

Yeah, I just looked at my order e-mail from them and it said it was included. They did include this tube that has a generic number on it and says weight 0.6g but it looks like stock generic thermal. I had some Arctic 5 silver and Ceramique 2 laying around but would have liked the ic diamond.

 

The tube we were given is probably not IC diamond.

 

If you have both guys paid for it, then it's not cool. From the picture, the paste looks like the stock one.

 

No, I know they usually include the stock paste that comes with the processor if you get an upgraded TIM...but the stuff I found on my GPU looked like a generic paste cookie...I guess it could have been IC diamond but they must half dropped half the tube onto the gpu alone.

 

Generally, the manufacturer's policy on pasting is better to be too much then too little. I seen a friend's XFX HD 7950 that is CAKED in thermal paste.

Edit: Rechecked fox's teardown video, that paste should be IC 7.

 

include enthusiast-level hardware http://www.notebookcheck.net/Eurocom-Sky-X9-workstation-now-available-for-3449-USD.155424.0.html

 

Can you guys give me some load cpu temps for your i7-6700k. I run Prime95 and for like 10 minutes it will sit at 79/80 max and than around the 12/13 minutes mark it jumps to 89/90 and sits there and slowly goes up 1 degree at a time. Is this pretty normal? I know Prime95 is very stressfull and not a realistic test. Under extreme on ungine heaven it never goes over 50/55ish

 

Using wprime 1024, I get around 80ish with a -150mv undervolt. Is there better ways to make an actually good fan profile without using the Clevo Control Centre?

 

Is that with Max fans and using voltage offset or changing to Static and changing the default voltage?

 

yes and offset

Must say, eurocom did a good job on the machine except for some little kinks(my broken q key). After running it through some benchmarks and games, seriously impressed with the performance. The screen actually far exceeded my expectation as I was expecting a cheapo POS 6 bit IPS screen.

 

Yeah I am loving it as well. I think the broken keys thing is just part of it being a laptop. I was actually surprised how good the keyboard turned out, I thought it would use cheaper plastic and have wobbly keys. It is pretty nice. The screen is great in my opinion, my external benq cheapo led screen looks like poop next to it.

 

Agree to disagree on the keyboard, it feels way too much shallow for me. I have... forceful keystrokes, so something more stiff would feel better to someone like me. However when literally the only thing I can complain about this machine is the keyboard, you know it is a good PC.

 

and I thought it was just my bad luck, first I press the DEL key lightly and it pops out...cheap Taiwanese garbage....so I put it back in place and it's fine....next...the insert key pops out......I tried placing it firmly but it would never stick....so HIDevolution sent me a replacement Insert Key, still no good, it would like fit properly, then after a few clicks it just pops out...

now they sent me a whole new keyboard which I will replace soon......

 

Hi, could you make a photo of cooling if it wouldn't be a problem? I'm interested in buying P870DM with same gpu config and I'm curious about single 980M cooling.
What do you generally think about P870DM cooling (besides the problem with thermal compound)? Do you have any other issues?

 

QUOTE="knight_nhl, post: 10151222, member: 592133"]Hi, could you make a photo of cooling if it wouldn't be a problem? I'm interested in buying P870DM with same gpu config and I'm curious about single 980M cooling.
What do you generally think about P870DM cooling (besides the problem with thermal compound)? Do you have any other issues?[/QUOTE]

This is my first time Undervolting a processor, I used to overclock some but I don't know a whole lot about it. When I use the Voltage Offset instead of changing from Default to Static my temperatures are very low. I don't really know how viable it is to keep this kind of offset though.

Waited for idle temps to return before retesting. All tests were done with the laptop sitting on a normal desk flat. I could pro
ably drop a few degrees if I lifted the back of the laptop up some, but I was going for real world portable temps.
-140mv offset with everything else stock
CPU Package - HWinfo
Room Temp: 21.6C(71F)
idle max fans - 31C - 33C
Load XTU Stress Test 5 minutes: 60C
Ungine Heaven Extreme 1080 Benchmark: 44C
Wprime 1024 Bench:61C
Cinebench R11.5 CPU 3 times in a row(score 9.47): 65C
Prime95 blend 10 minutes: 84C

Stock Everything
CPU Package - HWinfo
Room Temp: 21.6C(71F)
Ambient max fans - 33C - 34C
Load XTU Stress Test 5: 74C
Ungine Heaven Extreme 1080 Benchmark: 53C
Wprime 1024 Bench: 75C
Cinebench R11.5 CPU 3 times in a row(Score 9.47): 78C
Prime95 10 minutes: I opted not to do this test. Going by the math i don't think it would be a great idea.

GPU Stock - Ceramique 2 TIM - I might repaste with CLU or IC later because the temps still seem a bit high.
Room Temp: 21c
Idle max fans - 39C - 42C
3Dmark Firestrike - 65C
Ungine Heaven Extreme 1080 Benchmark: 75C
Killingfloor 2 Ultra 1080p gameplay 10 minutes: 75C

 

If GPU stays under 80*c I wouldn't panic. Don't demand low temperatures with such long heat pipes between radiator and GPU.
80*c should be normal barrier for single 980M in P870DM i think.
Do you have games like Metro Redux or BF4/Dragon Age Inquisition to check average temperatures under quite heavy load (it's not burn test but typical stress-test).

 

Anyone know or have word when 8.1 drivers will release for this monster. UPS shipping says mine will be here by Monday, but I only have a spare 8.1 Pro key at the moment and I don't want to opt into the windows 10 free upgrade unless I need to.

 

8.1 update? I am on 8.1 pro right now.