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It's actually exactly the other way round.The one close to the CPU is the slave, the one towards the outside is the master:

 

I had assumed the same and I will test again but if you look in my pic even the sli cable says slave on the gpu on the outside so I am stumped. Maybe my sli ribbon is backwards but I wouldn't think it would connect.

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It's written on the motherboard...look closer.

 

Ya exactly I see so I will test again to confirm but just seemed different when I did a lot of sing gpu testing. Thanks

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Actually I can. LOL

 

5960 and sli 980 no?

 

I did both. Where do you think I got this 4960X from...

 

Ok some weird stuff from what I see, in the end I apologize but it seems that the Valley Benchmark puts GPU 1 on top and GPU 0 on bottom after double checking with Precision X and Nvidia inspector so only I needed straightened out lol. I guess my SLI cable needs flipped or something.

 

Happens to the best of us.

 

Hey. Thanks for those that responded the other day. My laptop is already back with the vendor and is awaiting repair (hopefully will have it back before Xmas eve). I'll take what happened as a learning experience.

So on and so, does anyone who owns the non-g sync 4K variant (panel ID B173ZAN01.0) of the phoenix know if they can overclock the panel and how far? Before my clevo needed to be sent back, I managed to overclock the screen (Full HD 1080P) to 100Hz. Is the 4K screen overclockable, and if so, how far did you manage? I bought a 4K panel and intend to swap the screens and if it works, I want to know if it's doable. Or if there's something in the bios keeping it from working, period. Thanks.

 

Did you notice any difference after overclocking the screen? I may can't see difference above 60

 

Hello everyone
1st of all I would like to thank you all for this thread, you have been so helpful for me by reading everyone post.

I just push the button and buy my Dream laptop, Desktop CPU and GPU is like a dream.

Since i live in Germany, i bought my Clevo 870DM from XMG (Let's hope they send it as fast as they can)

i will share my spec with you guys it's in German but im sure everyone can understand it.

XMG U726 ULTIMATE GAMING NOTEBOOK


• 43,9 cm (17.3") Full-HD (1920*1080) Non-Glare IPS mit G-SYNC
• NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 8192MB GDDR5
• Intel Core i7-6700K | 4 Kerne | 8 Threads | 4,0 - 4,2GHz | TDP: 91 Watt
• 16GB (2x8192) SO-DIMM DDR4 RAM 2400MHz HyperX Impact
• 256GB m.2 SSD Samsung 950 Pro NVMe (MZ-V5P256BW) - angebunden via PCI-Express x4
• 1000GB SATA-III 5400U/Min WD Blue 9,5mm (WD10JPVX)
• Intel Wireless-AC 3160 M.2 (inkl. Bluetooth)
• 24M. Pickup&Return Garantie
• Basis - Schnell-Reparatur innerhalb der ersten 6 Monate
• Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64 Bit english
• ohne Microsoft Office
• Backlit Keyboard U.S. International
• Gehäuse mit XMG-Logo

Cheers

 

Not notable to my eyes, though on benchmarks/games I do tend to get higher FPS all-around (with G sync enabled, naturally). I would guess in instances of slowdown if you were at 60 Hz it would fall from there and be more noticeable (say, if it fell to 40 or 38 FPS) vs 100Hz/100 FPS and it dropping to 90 FPS or 80 which is still much less noticeable than the latter.

 

How to install Windows 7 on Samsung 950 PRO

 

Hi. I heavily suggest you change the things I have quoted if it is within your budget to do so.

HGST travelstar 7K1000
Intel Wireless-AC 8260
Windows 10 Pro, OR Windows 7/8.1 (and not upgrade in the near future).

 

I will send them email and check if they can do these things for me

 

I ran a quick test at 4.2ghz +100 GPU + 200 mem to compare I ended up with
19725
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10681411

 

You can do simple tests by using your mouse and moving it around. At higher frequencies the mouse movement becomes much smoother. More notable at lower sensitivities.


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no quick tests, i want all out, balls to the wall benchmarks! cmon guys, its the phoenix for christ's sake! theres NO STOCK settings allowed, same goes for "mild overclocks", completely useless

@GTVEVO: ure barely 30% faster than my dark knight with double the gpu power and actually lower on physics with a newer gen, higher IPC performing cpu, shame on you!

(if thats not proper motivation, i dunno what is )

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You will have to wait until more CLU comes in. Not sure if I should bother repasting the GPU though, it seems fine on its own.


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that i can agree with, i havent found clu to be necessary on the gpu either, already runs ice cold as it is using kryonaut or gc extreme

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Nice specification Orders placed before the weekend will still be delivered before Christmas if in Germany and other mainland European countries (we had a UK pre-Christms delivery cut off Wednesday evening ad midnight), production is working over the weekend to keep everyone happy ;-)

 

I agree, I am away from home right now, this weekend I will see what it can hold.

 

Yeah, sorry for the crappy 3DMark 11 post earlier... that's Alienware-grade throttle crap. At a high GPU overclock and high CPU overclock the Current Limit Throttle problem comes back with a vengeance and the CPU falls on its face. With SLI disabled or single GTX 980 the problem is gone, so it must be something with power management. Hopefully, it is only a Clevo firmware blunder rather than a hardware limitation and @Prema will be able to figure what to do. No point in even dreaming about 980 SLI in the future until this is resolved because it will be worse than 980M SLI if it is a power management issue.

These are MUCH better, but would be a lot nicer if the CPU was holding 4.7GHz with 980M SLI. This is more or less the overclock limit with SLI, as going higher than this the CPU runs around 2.8GHz. GPU overclock it holding rock-solid, though. Really sweet vBIOS mod.

3DMark 11: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10681560



3DMark Vantage: http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/5380342

 

Just as I suspected, I am glad that we was able to get together on this a few months back and now you are experiencing it at full tilt.

 

Mr. Fox,

The problem you are getting at with CPU underclocking and SLI goes a long way back. I noticed it with 880M SLI and high CPU overclocks. MSIGT80/AW18 980M SLI edition also suffer from the same problem.

The general factors seems to be nCRAPIA, SLI then Windows.

Yes, disabling SLI will completely solve this issue.

The problem first became obvious to me when a member here told me my 4940MX score was low by 500ish points. Even if I ran the GPUs stock the problem wouldn't go away. It's almost as if tinkering with the system triggers nVIDIA to safeguard power usage.

To date, I do not know of a solution. Re-installs of Windows does nothing.

vBIOS is not a culprit, or at least flashing to a modded vBIOS, then flashing to the original crappy throttling vBIOS does not reverse the damage.

 

It's not an issue the P570WM had though.

 

Nor the M18X R2

 

Might be worth investingating the specs of the power delivery and the controller chip in use.

 

It's not a hardware problem...I know what to do, but Mr. Fox first needs some sleep since the last he got was around Tuesday...

 

What is the problem oh great one!?

 

A "feature"...buried in BIOS & EC code.

 

Does BIOS (re)flashing resolve the issue?

Does this mean all non 870 users are thus screweth?

 

Prema i talk with my reseller about 2400 mhz ram kingston hyper x.
I report to them 12 errors on memtest only when i put all 32 gb of ram. ( also tried with other bank of ram)
They answer me that is a voltage problem and they will increase the power for each slot in future BIOS/EC update.
My question is With your bios mod you can fix also a ram voltage issue?

 

I find ddr4 to be very voltage sensitive

 

Mine finally shipped. I only have 2400mhz ram, hopefully it works.

 

Oh great I chose 2400 too... Ugh I better not have issues with this

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The potential is great, but no power to run.... A work in progress....

 

Are you maxing out both 330w ac adapters?

 

It's not that that is the limiting factor. And the best one can run stable is about 1550 or so. And there is still fps loss, but no fps drop. Hard to explain.

 

What is the difference between fps loss and drop?

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WOW, what a sweet card you have (the older batches seem better in general)!
There are VERY few recent GTX9xxM MXM boards that are actually able to "fuel" the chip...most fail, also with additional mosfets, to supply a stable voltage curve and have the "black screen" issue around 1.175v...even the 200W GTX980 with its 7+1 power phases blacks out at around 1.25v if not "hit my an AC".

 

How come my graphics interface shows as 8x? I had a dual 980M in SLI and 2x330 Power Adapters

 

John uses the good old golden P570WM3 and not a P870DM.

 

oh so this is normal in my case? just makin' sure everything is where it should be bro

 

I remeber you cursing the P570wm, but you figured it out, tamed it, it was fun being you're guinea pig beta tester, I loved your BIOS.

So you're saying clevo crippled this pheonix but it's only at the software level and not hardware. Good. Could it be for a good reason though? Maybe the motherboard can't handle it? Why you think they did this, Prema?

 

Because its an (industry) trend to want to "control" others "for their own safety"...the hardware of the P870DM is much more capable than anything we got our fingers on before...Fox just sold most of his AW collection...

Whenever you read the words "smart", "turbo", "intelligent", "automatic", "boost", "adaptive"...etc in new tech...be advised that this just means that the user is no longer able to make his own choices.

 

They will still only do about 1500-1550 or so stable. just like most desktop cards

Meaning that if you were doing 88 fps at 1038/1253.... then with the mod it will drop to 84 fps at 1038/1253.
Thus no fps drop because clocks stay the same, but yet one loses 4 fps somewhere. Power and voltage is still the same for stock yet you take a 4 fps hit.

It's a work in progress though....

 

Easy answer. Your cpu only supports an x8 link unless you run only one gpu. Then you can get x16.

 

It depeinding on the Ram.. Seems that kingston hyper x 8gb 2400 have some voltage problem.. I dont know other brand