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When you put it like that I can't possibly disagree. Well said.

It grinds my gears! But you're on the job, I got no doubt you'll fix it at all. You have no idea how much we love your ass for doing what you do. Thanks man

Donation coming your way, just after Xmas though when I'm paid. Kids killing me this Xmas

 

I think someone mentioned in this thread they are not true 2400mhz ram. They're overlooked 2133 mhz at factory, and pheonix officially only supports 2133 into further bios updates. Correct me if I'm wrong

If Prema has anything to do with it the above will all be bs

 

The stock BIOS runs up to 2400Mhz P'n'P...we have tested the same Kingston OCed stable up to 2800Mhz @ stock 1.2v with the Mod BIOS.

I've also unlocked SPD writes (disabled on all Haswell & Skylake stock BIOS) so people can write their own values and XMP profiles by using Thaiphoon Burner and that way also overvolt the RAM.

 

Wow.

I stand corrected and put in my place.

Just... Wow. Very nice indeed

 

Can't wait to have you bios

 

Can't wait to have a "PHOENIX"

 

Can't wait to get mine... TOMORROW!!! Muhuhahaha

Been on the msi page spying. It's only a matter of time before clevo bring out their sli 980. I just can't cope with their cpu. But damn, a part of me is thinking clevos next laptop will be the major one. Skylake E and sli 980's. 6 core goodness. But I have zero patience

The msi 980 SLI review video is out. In it he states that as soon as you open the laptop you void the warranty! Omg. Gpu's are nice but I don't like anything else about it

 

Figured I would share my specs. Ordered a few days ago thanks to everyone's support and great feedback.





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Dual Power Supply? Thought I've read the 660W duals are only needed for the 980m SLI?

 

Mythlogic told me if I planned on doing any decent overclocking on the gpu I would need that.

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Hmmmm Interesting... Mr. Fox? Prema? Your opinion?

Does it really need a second supply with a single 980?

Didn't order a second one so I'm really interested how far I can go with only 330W. Stock... Slightly OCed... Or "do whatever you want it will be enough"

 

I figured maybe since I have the 6700k at 95w with the desktop 980 card it makes sense. But again I asked them being the pros.

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I'm not questioning your decision

Just asking for myself. Ordered a single supply with 6700K and 980 and want to know how far I can go with it.

 

Honestly... I figured I might as well get it because in case it is needed at least it's right there. Hopefully it wasn't a waste of 160 dollars. I think that's how much extra it was. But extra clarification would be awesome!

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If the CPU can pull 95w stock and the GPU is set for 200w stock plus the machine guts you are at 330w right there so I don't think it's a waste. Mr. Fox has already confirmed this during his testing of I remember correctly. My memory isn't perfect and this thread is huge too.

Not a must but a nice to have if you plan to push the system.

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1 is more than enough in DX11. Dunno about DX12 .

 

Could you elaborate on that? I haven't messed with dx12 but seeing as I'll be on win 10 I'm sure I will...

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Utilizes more CPU in bottlenecked areas, which in turn means the GPU never takes a break. Overall consumption is up I believe... could be wrong.

 

Does it actually help performance though? Or is it a waste of power? Also would each game specify whether it can use dx12? Or would it be something you have on system wide? With dx11 I usually could choose if I wanted to use it.

 

2 power supplies is more power efficient as you are running both around 50% load where they will be very efficient.

 

The Delta 330W (up to ~380) has been out since 2011. I'm curious if it has become more efficient over the years...

 

Yes, it helps drastically.

 

got mine about 10 months ago and its still at efficiency level V = 85% or more

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Just made all these changes in time, thanks for helping

 

Any one using external monitors?

and what your recommendations?

 

Good man =D

 

Remember, I have 4 utterly worthless 780M GPUs that are totally crippled due to GeForce anti-Kepler/pro-Maxwell digital cancer drivers. The Jolly Green Giant's customer hatred was not introduced with 880M. The Alienware 18 exhibits the same CPU throttling behavior with 780M SLI. I believe this is an artificial firmware-induced power handling limitation for both Alienware and Clevo. I am almost positive they did something to limit power consumption using cancer-laced firmware because that's the " safe and green tree-hugger panty-waist" way to do things in the 21st Century. I suspect that soon all big and juicy SLI laptop owners with unlocked CPUs and GPU are going to be viewed as evil contributors to the fabled carbon footprint problem, just like gun owners and those that use fossil fuels are evil and the source of all of the world's problems. We will know this is all true because Al Gore says it is, and Santa Claus is real and Batman is the first-born son of the Easter Bunny... it all adds up (NOT).

Indeed, it is not. But, considering how old it is, that beast was designed long before the industry fell under the control of imbeciles whose life mission to make our lives suck with "energy conscious" trashbooks.

Wow, it's a small miracle that it even idles at that clock speed. It is a "980M" due to a typo in the driver mod? That's an MSI GTX 980, right?

Could not have said it better. Saw that right after I started responding to @Zero989 LOL.

No, not really. I overclocked the crap out of this monster with a single 200W GTX 980 and it never missed a beat. Adding the second AC adapter added no value in terms of performance or stability with single GPU. But, a single 330W AC adapter is going to have to work hard all of the time. It will run hotter and may have a shortened lifespan. It may also contribute to instability with "dirty" power after a while of being stressed and fatigued.

With 980M SLI having a dual 330W adapter is absolutely required if you plan to overclock. With the CPU and GPU running stock, 330W is just barely enough power. And, it's only enough because the 330W adapter can briefly output at a peak 60-80W more than the nominal capacity. It won't hold that output at that level on a sustained basis,but for short benchmark burst tests it can. If you max it out and hold it there for too long the internal circuit breaker will trip and the AC adapter will turn itself off. You'll have to unplug it from the wall power, wait a couple seconds and plug it back in to reset it's internal breaker.

 

Yes Brother Fox. That is my 980M in my P570WM3.

 

Wow, that's really great that a 980M will overclock that high at a idle. Mine (in the P570WM and the two brand new ones in the Sky X9) won't get anywhere close to that clock speed without crashing the driver, getting a BSOD or the screen going black, whichever comes first.

 

I was just testing to see how high they would overclock before doing the black screen of death. haha

And whether that 1.3V was fictional or not.

 

So if a single 330W will be working hard all the time do you just recommend using dual psu's anyway? I would like to OC the 980 without any long term issues... And I tend to game many hours at a time.

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There is no reason to overclock the 980 for gaming, but if you are planning to do that I would get the dual adapter setup just to prolong the life of the adapters. Otherwise, you'll pay for a second one in the long run, just buying them in stages. The big attraction to the 200W 980 is the fact that it can be subjected to extreme overclocking without needing to use a dual adapter setup. That is a lot more convenient than fumbling around with dual adapters and a converter box if you're on the go. It's not the extra bulk or weight as much as the extra "thing" with extra wires and "one more thing" to deal with if you're constantly on the go. I wish they offered a single 700W to 1,000W AC adapter. It could be as big and heavy as 3 of the 330W adapters combined and I wouldn't care, it would just be a lot sweeter to only have to deal with one gigantic monster AC adapter.

 

1 kW for a laptop - any laptop - sounds extreme.

 

For you there is any possibilities to see skylake-E in the p870 socket?

 

Is there anything specific to set up software/bios wise? Or just plug and play with the adapter? I did order the set with my new machine, so that much is taken care of.

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While not in the normal use of the term, yes it is plug and play to the extent no setup is required. The laptop doesn't know or care whether one or two are connected and no software is utilized for that.

 

Thank you! I guess the adapter does all the work

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Somewhere where these new 980M's need to be.

The one on the left is with osd on.
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/10686740/3dm11/10686758

Shows clocks for each part of run.

 

I have a 980m with 79% asic. Not sure what it will do

 

My master card is 80% and my slave is 71%
Breaks down to my memory will not overclock as high as my 80% card.
1500+ vs 1463+

 

I thought you were referring to credit cards when i first glanced at your post, I suppose a lot of them will be at 80% after this holiday especially with nice hardware like the phoenix.

 

We are talking about Asic GPU quality. It defines what kind of over clocker you will have.


Some random gpu from the internet.

 

I actually haven't seen too many 780M SLI owners with any issues. I know I don't have any, at least up until 355.60 (inclusive of 350.12 and 353.06); I haven't gone higher yet. I really feel this is a solid Alienware issue that they refuse to fix. I haven't seen any 780M SLI alienware owners anywhere on this forum recently, so we don't exactly have a large number of them to ask, but I really do feel the issue lies there.

It still is inexcusable, don't get me wrong. But only two companies made 780M SLI notebooks (Clevo and Alienware) so it's a bit hard to find users with them still. I know if I had a stable income I likely wouldn't even be able to comment on the 780M SLI as I would have looked into 980M SLI or gotten a desktop (with the pitiful laptop track record lately), which is likely what happened to most people who bought those notebooks like @n=1

 

I am not sure if there is an actual limit to voltage (EDIT: Or better where it is):

Here 1.4v:

Spoiler

But sadly even with a fully modded card with additional mosfets and caps...1.3v gives us like 50Mhz over 1.2v.

To quote the Master @Kenglish:

 

did you check the other page where i posted a 3dmark11 run over clocked?

 

Sure, awesome as usual!

So the sweet-spot you found for the cards is @ around 1.25v before the score drops & the 10Mhz+ run was on same voltage and cost frames instantly? Interesting...

 

Thanks.

I used the wrong profile i see. No, there was no frames lost or dropped.
Here it is with the cpu actually overclocked.
Stock CPU

Spoiler

Overclocked CPU

 

Maybe @@tomX can chime in, as he should have his 780m's soon on his AW18!

About the MSI GTX 980 SLI in the GT80S Titan: Does anyone know which version it is sporting? 180, 150 or 120w?
I asked politely in the corresponding thread but was ignored in the heat if the battle! LOL

 

https://forum.techinferno.com/index.php?/forums/topic/8555-gtx-980-n16e-gxx-all-variants/

 

Actually two reasons.
1: I was too lazy to switch oses.
2: Windows 8/8.1/10 all give higher gpu scores As far as I can tell, so I was testing the theory.