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My power draw did go up slightly after adding in vrms but it did not impact temps much.

 

This time it went to 785W for this world record.
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10782024

Edit:
This cpu has nothing to really do with the gpu score. So that brings us back to why the P870dm is not matching the basic performance of the P570wm3

Edit:
Windows 8 was able to produce far better gpu numbers. Technically that should translate into better gaming, but who knows.....
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10781780

 

Is this a hint of what's come up from Clevo or only the BGA model from Msi ? I'm still waiting for something to happen from Clevo...

 

Same here, still waiting....

 

Didn't you order the GT80S Titan? Or you were just curious about the MXM form factor?

The Eurocom DLX7 I believe launches on the 20th of this month, I'm sure they will also start selling the 180W MXM 980s separately at that time.

If anyone is willing to buy them to test them out that is a different story.

They are already selling the GTX 980 200W desktop MXM card for the P870DM (Sky X9) on their ebay page for $1,350. Let's see what they price the 180W models (I'm guessing $1,100).

 

Nope. No Titan here.

And as far as these new cards go......If i could get two 980's to fit and run in here, i would be totally content.

 

The 180W 980s will fit and probably even run in mine. Problem is if the 980M heatsinks will cool everything properly.

 

yeah, i have an a/c unit so....not to worried about that.

As long as the heat sink can cover the card, i can always improvise.

 

LOL, assuming one does not have an AC unit and wants a portable laptop with a permanent solution,

The GTX 980 180W card is just a tad longer than a standard 980M, the thing is, the heatsink design may not cool everything properly, but I'm wondering if getting different sized thermal pads would help. The extended part wouldn't be covered at all though.

980 180W:



980M:

 

This is not my only computer (And it is clearly not my fastest one either. ) And when im out im working i'm not out playing games. When i travel i go to travel and not play games. And i'm not deployed so i go home every night. And my xboxone sees more gaming than any of my pc's. Short of me testing fallout 4 on the laptop right now.

 

@ssj92 @GTVEVO @Mr. Fox

So I sent HIDevolution an email asking them how much would it cost me if I wanted to upgrade from my Dual 980M SLI to a single Desktop 980 thinking it was better due to the bad SLI profiles and bad drivers from nVIDIA, but after watching this video, I am not sure anymore, how legit do you think those scores are showcasing the 980M SLI kicking the 980 Desktop in the butt in almost all games with the exception of one:



Do you think I am shooting myself in the foot with this upgrade? Didn't order anything yet just want your opinion......
Mr. Fox has a virus implanted in my head called : "2 is always better than one brah"

This is what LinusTech says about SLI:

 

Before I can answer what are the goals you wish to achieve by switching?

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Two 980Ms are definitely better than a desktop 980.

The thing is, the app or game has to support SLI. If it doesn't support SLI then the GTX 980 will be faster since only one 980M would be used. So check your games, most of them probably support SLI but some of them also probably don't.

 

My games are:

FIFA 16
NFS Rivals
NFS (the new NFS soon to be released)
Battlefield 4
Metal Gear Solid Ground Zeroes
Metal Gear Solid Phantom Pain
Counter Strike: Global Offensive
Company of Heroes (the entire franchise)
GTA V
Ryse: Son of Rome

 

just the fact that all I have been hearing lately is this game doesn't support SLI and that game doesn't, getting tired of it and thinking if only one card is to be used, might as well have a strong card

 

Haven't posted in awhile, but I am letting go of p870dm....just don't have the free time for it.

Had a new replacement just sent to me which works great, and is currently up on Ebay if anybody is looking for a good discount on a new one!

Hope you all enjoy this beast! Best of luck.

 

Here goes one on your list and two that aren't.
My 980M's

 

I will answer to the list of games I play or I know.

CS:GO: Single 980m/980/SLI will run it at over 144fps. Doesnt matter.
GTA V: SLI works alright. Just sometimes in online when I am driving in cities, FPS and GPU utilization dip.(CPU issue??)
MGS: Locked to 60fps, apparently 120fps mess up the physics. Whatever card is fine.
BF4: I am pretty sure SLI/CF is heavily optimized on that game. I wont worry about it.

 

Its a give and take situation for sure so it will depend upon if you are more gamer or more overclocker with gaming hobbies. For myself if I want 980 desktop performance just overclock the 980m and move on. The cards run so cool it's no issue or worry as long as it's stable. Otherwise if you want to set and go then move towards the 980 desktop.

Only if they would have provided the 980ti the answer would be so much easier.

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Guys, can I get some help here?

I need to make a decision between the gtx 980 and the 980m SLI. If i go for SLI i will be sacrificing memory options and such:/

help a (future) brotha out:/

 

Is the SLI system Occulus compatible?

 

Occulus currently doesn't support the M cards. Although there is a plugin in the works if I'm not mistaken which could help. Can't really give you any more info that tho, it's still a long shot at the moment.

 

I can see why not on optimus machines, makes no sense to have issues on the direct connect mobile cards.

 

SLI. No question asked. You can sell off 980m when you upgrade. You cant sell off 980. If you factor in future upgrade, 980m sli will be at least the same price with a great initial investment.

 

That means I'll have to deduct from elsewhere since I'm on a tight budget and i'm kinda over that too
Also what's your opinion on the 4k screen along with 980m SLI? Would also appreciate the 4k screen for coding too.

 

Cut out the storage and buy it yourself. Most SSD are overpriced at config.
4k for coding?

 

Anyone else see this? Very cool and it brings a little motivation to get on that list.

https://biosmods.wordpress.com/benchmarks/

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Haven't had a Sli system for quite some time now, but if 1 of the cards failed can the other be run as a single. I remember I couldn't do this if the main card failed on my old machine because the daughter card had different vBios. Is this still the case?

 

Uh, I'd ask some questions.

Specifically, be aware that not all games support SLI well, it generally doesn't play well with windowed mode, etc.

 

Yes if one card fails you can ensure the working is in the master slot and then play without sli. You have control of your vbios so no worries.

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Most games do and for people like me, the 980m is heavily overclocked anyways. The only thing I can think of lately is just cause 3. Gaming laptops arent something you dont tweak, the default profiles/bioses are usually atrocious. If you look at the price of the 980, it is way overpriced compared with either 980m SLI/980m. It serves a purpose for people who do not want to overclock their systems or guaranteed usability on a 330w. You can get away with a decent overclock on 980m SLI with a 330w if you had great ASIC cards like I did but its not a guaratee. The 330w single adapter is barely enough for it at stock volts.

 

Thanks

 

The crispier display helps
Also, since I will be also using it for heavy emulation, I was told SLI isn't particularly tolerated by emulators so that's another point for me to consider.

So in reality, considering the difference in gaming between the 980 and the 980m sli is negligible, the only thing to gain is their future value?

 

Ehe, 980m SLI when working destroys a 980 easily. My 980m SLI benchs better than titan X.

For simulations, do you need functionalities offered by quadros?

 

Nono I meant I just wanna be able to play PS2 games at 4k and 60fps which requires a >960 desktop gpu usually and isn't compatible with SLI. So if I get the 980M's SLI, I'm not sure if one 980M can do the job.

 

A 980m and 980 will perform very similar in PS2 emulation. They are more CPU dependent.

 

Hmm, have you tried it yourself by any chance?
I need to hear from someone that they were able to render at 4k hehe

 

A decently overclock 980m can match a 970 desktop. So dont worry about it.

 

I used to on my desktop but haven't on my laptop. The fps difference would be like 10fps max between a stock 980m vs stock 980.

A 980m can beat a GTX 970 :

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/7104250/fs/5057209#

 

Hmm I see..
Also, how are you liking the 4K display? Do you use it for gaming? And if so, do the 980m's delivery a playable 4k experience without needing g-sync and all?

 

Best laptop display I have ever used. And I have had the Dell Studio 17 with the RGB display and the Panther 5 with the AUO 90% NTSC display.

Dual 980m SLI deliver a fine 4K experience. In non-SLI support games, I can still play at 4K but have to turn down some settings, or you can turn down the resolution to 1080p and max out the game. 1080p in games looks fine on this display but I still run everything at 4K, can't beat it.

 

Hmm yeah that's to be expected I believe..do you downscale the resolution when you run games at 1080P?
also, do you think XMG(mysn.co.uk) will have adobe rbg if i ask?

 

The Nvidia control panel lets you select: SLI, single Nvidia GPU, and if you have a muxable switchable iGPU/dGPU configuration you can then use the Intel GPU, 3 different GPU modes - one or more should be compatible with your emulator.

 

RGB LED displays died out a while back.

 

As far as I know, only Eurocom has them at the moment, doesn't hurt to ask @XMG though.

I don't run games at 1080p, but if I had to, it would be in full screen mode, which looks fine.

We can only use dedicated graphics, no iGPU for us. However, like you said, we can disable SLI in the control panel or we can even disable SLI for a specific game.

 

You know what somewhat bothers me... When I was trying to decide between 980m sli and 980 desktop almost everyone said go for 980 desktop for gaming. As of the past week it's like everyone is saying go with 980m sli. I'm about to stop reading as I don't want to regret my decision. Them feels!


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If you chose the 1080p screen then the GTX 980 is perfect. 980m SLI is better for 2560x1440 or 1080p @ 120hz or 4K in my opinion.

The Desktop 980 is an excellent choice and the components on the 200W card are great. It is a good overclocker, better than 980m in my opinion.

If we can get 980 SLI in this system, it would be the best of both worlds.

 

Sellers on ebay sells the display far cheaper then eurocom. No idea if they actually works though.

 

Yeah I saw that. I'm pretty sure Eurocom has the display marked up high right now since they were the only ones that had it. Shouldn't be more than a +$250-300 upgrade over the 1080p display. There's a good chance those ebay sellers are selling the real deal.

 

I did go with 1080p as I prefer to just use AA over having the 4k screen. I didn't want to worry about scaling issues and such. Wasn't super siked about going 4k until a few years down the line.

Just all this "performance of 980m sli destroys desktop card" is disheartening. I only got the 980 because I kept hearing of compatibility and driver/profile issues with running sli and how dx12 handles it. I originally wanted 980m sli.


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