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Im waiting for someone to guide me through this tedious process before I brink my newly opened machine :S

 

Take some pictures of your BIOS, mainly any overclocking pages.

I've never seen an unlocked Mythlogic BIOS so I don't know if it has the same options as the Eurocom version.

I wouldn't bother with Intel XTU. If you have no overclocking experience and want to overclock, what is your goal?

 

Whatever OC that works and is stable im fine with. Want it on both the CPU and GPU'S.. Sucks to have the capabilities to do so and just stay with stock versions....

 

Thank you again!

I'm already at 80C/82C on the GPUs with stock voltages =/

But under gaming (witcher3) stress. For benches is like 60c/63c

 

My car has 435HP and can go 164mph. That does not mean I drive that fast or use all of that HP.

You need to keep in mind the risks involved in overclocking. If you wish to proceed you can do so.

For the GPUs, open up the program you mentioned earlier: http://i.imgur.com/qIEPPfV.png

Enable "GPU Overclock" and increase the "core increment" to +100mhz.

Now on the top left corner you should see the [2] section. Click that and do the same thing. Click Save. Your GPUs are now both overclocked by +100mhz but you need to make sure they're stable. Run a benchmark or play a game to make sure they don't crash.

As for the CPU, I cannot help until I see what your BIOS looks like. Check out the post below this one for CPU overclocking.

 

here are the settings to get a stable 4.2 GHz on all cores and get better temps since the stock voltage is very high.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...enix-has-arisen.781814/page-370#post-10194537

 

I don't know how to help you without a starting point. I need to know where and how you're confortable to stary with.

Because there is no magic numbers to start. You must try it out and test it (see some previous posts, about things going well and others going wrong).

So we need you to give as somewhere to begin, so we can say things you could try.

Check, for instance, a few posts back where I were not finding a good way to overclock to 4.3ghz and @Phoenix helped me. Now @ssj92 is telling me his experience with his GPUs, so I can use it to find a sweetspot for mines. It is different for everyone.

You must give us a starting point

 

With the GPUs it's good to start off with how far it can go on stock voltages, with the CPU you may want to find how low your voltage can go at stock to get an idea of how good the sample is.

 

As soon as im done with an encoding I will take a picture of the BIOS screen.. Another question.. Any ideas why on device manager i see both cards http://prntscr.com/a8dhoq but dxdiag only shows 1? http://prntscr.com/a8dieo

 

DXdiag is only showing your primary card, it's not really interested in the other.

 

When i bought this one on mythlogic it stated this ( http://prntscr.com/a8dmqa ) do i really need to connect both batteries to do that?

 

That's for dual power supplies. The converter box is a box that you plug both adapters into so that you will have 660 watts instead of just 330. Only required if you will be overclocking the CPU and GPU.

 

Thats exactly what I am looking to do.. I have both batteries and the box... did you OC both and do you have both batteries on?

 

Why do you say not to use afterburner and inspector together? I use afterburner for my on screen monitoring but use inspector for everything else.

 

I will be able to help alot more once I have my laptop back in front of me. If you are already mid 80s on GPU with the stock voltage overclock I wouldn't push much more. Since you are dealing with on average much higher ambient temps you want to be careful.

I think you can push the CPU more however... You have a bigger window on temps from where you are at now. If you are still struggling by the time I get my Myth machine back I will see how are bios settings compare. I also use throttle stop.

 

Heres the Bios for the Mythlogic http://i.imgur.com/xBJDR3W.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ROccwcy.jpg

is it the same as the Eurocom one?

 

hmm I'm a little confused by both batteries do you mean you have two power adapters? I haven't received mine yet its in phase 6 and has just shipped to Xotic and they will ship it to me after they receive it.

I don't really plan on overclocking it because I want this laptop to last me for a while so I just went with the single 330 watt adapter.

 

yes thats what I meant.. Ok

 

was wondering about the battery stuff myself..... thought that might be some new undercover way to get more power. lol

 

Sure, if you chained a dozen together you could build up quite the bank of power, not really an option to take with you.

 

Enable overclocking and it will give you a surprise.

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Exactly, but was worth hearing though...

 

Because you have two programs that control core clock and memory clocks open at the same time.

If it doesn't do any harm for you, feel free to continue doing so the way you are doing it.

I had a weird clock issue and have since stuck to using nVidia inspector for anything that needed extra voltage. I also set-up the rivatuner OSD with HWInfo and it works well.

 

Interesting... I haven't seen any issues so far but I will definitely try only using one if I discover issues and can't figure out why!

 

Tests my new laptop Kunshan P870 Killer-Edition in Cinebench 11.5 (stock clock-settings + <low end> 2133 ram) Maximum temperature of 52 degrees Celsius in the tests (ambient temperature of 18.7 degrees Celsius and max fan speed) Is this an ok maximum processor temperature in Cinebench 11.5?
I will run some tests at stock clock before I start Oc. I still use Raid 0 as some say cripple the processor performance. I do not see a huge degradation in processor performance in Wprime / Cinebench due RAID 0. Or are Cinebenc 11.5 score to low low? Wprime 032 = 5.1 / 1024M = 159,200

 

Yes and I gave you the link to the settings already which clearly shows it the same thing!

Check again if you have missed it:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...enix-has-arisen.781814/page-370#post-10194537

 

@Phoenix Did you require 2 PSU to achieve that? If not, what is a safe, no throttle OC for dual PSU?

Nearly at my savings goal & should be ordering mine within the next 14 days. Also you've suggested ordering through HID. I'm assuming you prefer over Mythlogic? HID will price match Myth right? Will Ted still give the discount after that? Will an additional $200 still be required to get Prema?

Planned build:

6700k
16GB 2400 HyperX
Dual PSU + Converter (if needed for the safe, 4.2GHz, no throttle OC you listed, or if higher, similar OC is available with it.)
980m SLI
1080p g-sync
SM951 128GB NVMe (boot)
950 Pro 512GB (games & apps)
2x 1TB 7200RPM 6GB/s HDD (cheap & just a bit above my future storage needs)

 

Awesome bios!
My p750dm needs one of that!

 

1) My CPU is not a good overclocker, but I am happy to have 4.2 GHz on all cores 24/7 with great temps using Liquid Ultra, when ordering your machine, select the liquid ultra option on CPU. On HIDevolution's site, they only have "Liquid Ultra on CPU + GPU" mention to them in an email afterwards that you only want Liquid Ultra on the CPU and IC Diamond on the GPU although you can have Liquid Ultra on both on this machine if you want.

2) If you want to do like me, as in, to have the Prema BIOS, just create an account with your email, then login, now, add the system that you want with the configuration that you want to the cart but don't checkout yet. Then shoot Ted an email telling him that you have placed the order in your cart for him to see it, then tell him you want that same configuration but a Eurocom Sky X9 instead with the Prema BIOS so they will order your system from Eurocom and get it within 2-5 business days

3) Yes, the PREMA BIOS will cost you $200 USD more, reason being, with the PREMA BIOS installed, you are running a non-standard BIOS which has more possibilities of you damaging something if you apply the wrong settings which then, Clevo won't cover the warranty? So who will bear the cost? It will be HIDevolution/Eurocom, so it is only fair for them to charge $200 USD more for that BIOS since they will pay from their pocket if you damage your RAM/CPU or any other component due to wrong settings or an extreme overclock. Totally worth it IMO for that extra protection.

3) If you have Dual 980Ms, then a highly recommend a Dual PSU so the power won't be a limit in your overclock. For a single 980 GTX (Desktop class), a single PSU is adequate although I ordered mine with Dual PSUs for 2 reasons: A) so if one adapter goes bad, I have a spare ready to use. B) just to ensure I have enough power no matter what overclock I want to achieve. After all, it is a very expensive system, a little bit more for the extra power adapter isn't going to matter that much anyway

4) By telling Ted that you are an NBR forum member:

A) He will give you a small discount
B) If you configure the system on HIDevolution's site, it will still be cheaper than configuration the same specs on Eurocom's site

So how does HIDevolution manage to get you a better price despite it being a Eurocom system? Simple, it's their good relations with Eurocom that enables them to do this.

 

Maybe your CPU just needs a nice delidding to be a good overclocker. If you say that because the temps are too high, that's probably all it is.

 

I would go up to 256Gb Os disc and put up a higher op.

Off topic. Have any of you tried a core parking utility for 6700K?

 

I could see niche cases for saying having it in your boot/trunk

 

I would do that just now.. now i also have the 2 power adapters.. have you OC'D ur GPU'S sp you can guide me on doing so on mines... also mythlogic uses prema bios right? or maybe not? http://prntscr.com/a8qimu

 

Yes, I use that and I turn HPET on.

 

The stock Uncore park or the beta version(v2)?

 

It is whatever version I downloaded way back in 2013. I think it may be version 1.0.0.0.

It works fine for W7, 8 and 10, so I have never bothered looking for a newer version.

 

Yep, no need for version 1.01 if there is nothing to do

 

Did as that thread stated and here are the results... Now.. do you have something similar for the GPU'S? http://prntscr.com/a8sseo

 

Enable HPET...

Code:

bcdedit /set useplatformclock true

Disable HPET...

Code:

bcdedit /deletevalue useplatformclock 

...a reboot is required.

Some say it improves performance... others say it doesn't. Easy to test though. I have it enabled on all of my systems.

@unclewebb has a tool you can use to test the changes. You can find more info and download the utility here.

 

@Mr. Fox @Prema @Firebat246 @ssj92 @jaybee83

Yuppieeeeeee!! I delidded my CPU!! Idle temps below @ 4.2 GHz on all cores, time fore some testing now, I hope I can hit 4.4 GHz on all cores







Temps after 1 min stress test:

 

Did you use a razor blade? I can't wait to get mine back. I'll delid it after a week of proper testing to make sure everything is stable.

 

Yes bro, brand new razer blade + ArctiClean for cleaning the CPU / removing the glue with the help of a credit card. Without ArctiClean, the silicon glue was very hard to remove with the credit card alone. Apply a small amount of arcticlean in a bottle cap, then dip a cotton bud (q-tip) in it and apply it in a thin line where the glue is, then wait 10 seconds, then the glue will be easily removed with the credit card.

@Mr. Fox @Prema

Here is 4.4 GHz on all cores and x44 for the Cache Ratio after a 5 min stability test, fan profile still left at automatic not full blast so this should give you a real world usage scenario I guess

Adaptive Voltage with a negative offset of -60mV for CPU and -60mV for the Cache (Ring)

640 IA Current limit everywhere, 120000 Turbo Power Max, 250000 power limit 1,2,3,4

 

3DMark 11 GeForce GTX 980 (361.91) CPU 4.4 GHz-GPU OC 100-100 [W10]



3DMark Fire Strike GeForce GTX 980 (361.91) CPU 4.4 GHz-GPU OC 100-100 [W10]

 

Whats delidded?

 

Removing the IHS from the CPU and applying liquid ultra, it reduces the temps by around 10C

See this video

 

both my CPU and GPU'S came with IC Diamond is it about the same?

 

about the same as what? the delidding or Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra?

If you just replace IC Diamond with Liquid Ultra, you can lower the CPU temps anywhere from 3 to 5 C, delidding is on a whole new level of cooling. It would know off another 10C

For extreme overclocks, it is required. It is not for the faint hearted though and requires a LOT of patience, took me about 30 mins to perform as one of the corners where the glue is was very hard to remove, you have to be patient and keep cutting each corner with the blade gently until it pops off. ALWAYs rub towards the IHS not towards the PCB, as in, cut in a bit of an upward angle in order to not scratch/damage the PCB

here is how the CPU looks after removing the IHS:

 

I wont be able to do that. Im disabled and dont have full use of my hands so thats out of the table... I guess 4.2 is going to be the max i could go right?

 

4.2 GHz on all cores, for sure, if you set the voltage to adaptive (it's adaptive by default anyway) and set the voltage offset to a negative -150mV for both the CPU and Ring (AKA Cache Ratio), then set the min/max cache ratio to 42x as well.

If you encounter instability, just leave everything the same, and revert the cache ratio to 0 min/max (which means default, which is 4.1 GHz for Cache Ratio, it won't make a big difference) CPU Clock is king as they always say.

Sorry to hear about your hands, maybe a friend can help? Either way, this WILL void the CPU warranty so don't do it if you really aren't after number chasing like some of us, in benchmarks I mean. The system performs great even at stock speeds

 

I used the settings you gave me on the thread.. I posted a picture to you.. i used aida for 3 mins and the temps were fine.. so i guess 4.2 it is.

what about for both the GPU's? do you have a config tutorial or setup i could use?