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    *** Official Clevo P870DM2/P870DM3 (Sager NP9873/NP9872) Owner's Lounge! - The Phoenix 2 is here! **

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Aug 3, 2016.

  1. bsch3r

    bsch3r Notebook Evangelist

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    Meaker, is it your slave card that´s running hotter (card in the center)? And did you use g-sync during SW2? I see a big difference in temps when g-sync is active, e.g. in heaven when enabling g-sync both cards run about 10C (!) cooler.
     
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    bsch3r, limiting frames will make your cards run cooler.
     
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    bsch3r Notebook Evangelist

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    That´s for sure, but I haven´t expected such a difference (10c). So when talking temps it is very important to state if g-sync or 4k is used, because both have considerable impact on gpu temps.
     
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    For 1080 SLI P870DM3 owners, if you disable SLI in the NVCP, is one 330w enough to power the system without any issues?
     
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    I like simple answers :)

    Yes.
     
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    Trashmonk Notebook Geek

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    I delidded my 6700k today and my temps have dropped dramatically! The cpu is currently running at 42 with a 150 undervolt. Idle temps are at around 29c (21c ambient). I ran aida64 stress test for 15 minutes and the cpu temp maxed at 64c with Max fans. When I ran the same test with default fans the temps reached 72c, I could barely hear the fans! Before, I was getting 80c plus on full fans. A huge drop. I also ran timespy and the cpu temps maxed at 71c, before it was in the high 80s. I'll run Witcher 3 later and see what the difference is there. Previously, the Witcher 3 would ramp up the fans quiet a bit, even thought the gpu was cool, so hopefully this will mean the fans will run quieter.

    I used the rockit 88 delid and relid tools, best $38 I've ever spent. The instructional video on the website was great.

    To sum up, delid your cpu if you can it makes a huge difference.

    Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
     
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    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I think it's possible to get more than 150, @iunlock did 225 on 42/42/42/42 and the 6700K ran fine.

    YMMV.
     
  8. bloodhawk

    bloodhawk Derailer of threads.

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    That was probably at 4Ghz.
    The best I have seen st 4.2Ghz was -175.
    But then again these offset will differ for everyone, because we do not know the actual voltage. When someone says -150 it might be 1.35-.150. However for someone else if the base voltage was at 1.25, a -100 will be even lower for them.
    The offsets are rather arbitrary.
     
  9. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    It was at 4.2 across all cores and -225mv on both core and cache.

    ::iunlock::
     
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  10. knibbler

    knibbler Notebook Evangelist

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    Ahh, thats interesting. I locked my voltage static at 1.25v and -150mv. So this overall might be lower than -150mv undervolt if my setting was dynamic?
     
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    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I'd recommend use "default voltage" and monitor the stock voltage before applying an offset.
     
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    bloodhawk Derailer of threads.

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    That's the thing, even if you set it to static it won't hold it rock solid. Since we do not have full LLC control.
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Keeping it static all the time will increase noise on the desktop.
     
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    bradleyjb Notebook Consultant

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    Did you use CLU or something else under the spreader? And it is necessary to glue it back down, or can you just use the pressure from the socket and heatsink? thanks!
     
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    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    It's better to glue the IHS back down. But it will work even if you didn't glue, just cooling not very optimal.
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Best off cooling wise is to not glue, you loose some contact pressure but the gap is lowered which is more important.
     
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  17. TomJGX

    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    What is actually written on your order?
    Also If your not happy, speak to @Ted@HIDevolution or @Donald@HIDevolution and if your not able to come to an agreement, open a Paypal dispute and show your evidence to Paypal and if it's there, you'll have a decision from them accordingly (if you have paid by Paypal otherwise, talk to your card company.. If you payed cash, well :rolleyes: :rolleyes:)..
     
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  19. GTVEVO

    GTVEVO Notebook Deity

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    Interesting, Static with -150mv why, what advantage and why not correctly setting the actual static voltage 1.1v?

    Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk
     
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    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Can someone here check the P870 cooling fan thickness?
     
  21. Rage Set

    Rage Set A Fusioner of Technologies

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    I spoke to my reseller today and I was told my DM3 should be shipping out next week. Hopefully I'll receive it before or on my birthday (10/20), which would be a great present.
     
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  22. knibbler

    knibbler Notebook Evangelist

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    I was just following what the clevo cc panel cpu overclock app seemed to do. It showed 1.25v as static voltage. Since i didnt want to use clevo cc, i used that setting in xtu. I guess it does seem redundant the way i did it.
    Im not really very good. I wouldnt even be trying any of these things if my machine wasnt so hot.
     
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    ssj92 Neutron Star

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    And that is with the AUO 3K 120hz display?? You're receiving it quite fast then as everywhere I know of has them backordered.
     
  24. GTVEVO

    GTVEVO Notebook Deity

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    I see that you was just trying to replicate the settings thx for explaining. And its ok you have to start somewhere so no worries.

    Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk
     
  25. Rage Set

    Rage Set A Fusioner of Technologies

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    I actually placed my order for the P870DM3 with the 3K panel on 9/24/16, so I'm not exactly receiving it fast, hahaha. I am also not the only one that should be their P870DM3 next week.
     
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    Unless you ordered it from somewhere outside the US, please don't expect to receive it next week. Depending on your shipping method, it is more likely to be the week after.
     
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  27. TBoneSan

    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    I placed my order back in 8/31 :(
    The last I heard was that the 3k monitors are inbound in the 16th..
    So unless there's more delays I'd say having the machine shipped towards the end of next week is a fairly reasonable expectation. I have a bad feeling they'll be delayed again though.
     
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    We expect to see them in our warehouse around the 21st. However the 1st shipment is not enough to fulfill all of our orders. The next shipment to due around the end of this month.

    Those who ordered Rush Order will be fulfilled first, so if you want to add Rush to your order please email me to let me know.
     
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  29. Cheska

    Cheska Notebook Guru

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    Yeah. I ordered my from XoticPC on 9/23/16, and they told me they've already been sent the shipment and everything is on schedule (also 3K panel). About a week left or so until I get it. Can't wait!
     
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    Please ... don't be disappointed, or shoot the messenger.

    The EVOC P870DM3 with the 3K screen has not landed in the US at this time, notwithstanding contrary reports. No shipments have been sent from inside the US to any Clevo builder. They are estimated to arrive in the US around the 19th or 20th...then they have to clear Customs, which could take a couple of hours, a day, or a few days (thank you so much US Customs for your well known efficiency). Once they clear Customs, shipments to US Clevo builders will begin...
     
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    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    I guess that depends if I made the cut or not. Please PM me if I have or not and we'll go from there.
     
  32. Trashmonk

    Trashmonk Notebook Geek

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    I used CLU under the spreader. I ran out of CLU, so I used ic diamond for the heat sink, I will order some more CLU and apply that to the heat sink, I think it should improve the temperatures further.

    I glued the spreader back on, but only on the corners see this video:

    I played Witcher 3 last night and the fans hardly ramped at all it was great!

    Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
     
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    @Donald@HIDevolution I'm with @TBoneSan on this. While I highly doubt I made the cut, let me know as well. :D
     
  34. MickyD1234

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    Well the plot thickens in my search for an EU supplier for a 120hz FHD, another supplier just responded:

    Some other companies offer different panel options to us at the moment, this is because there are new panels available in a month or so which will meet your requirements for 120Hz. They don't technically have G-Sync support, but a new equivalent technology that works up to 120Hz.

    G-Sync is a software syncing solution which can only operate up to a maximum of 75Hz. The new Nvidia technology will support fps to panel refresh rate up to 120Hz, this requires a hardware solution and thus will only be available with the coming panels which support NVSR technology.


    Hmm, so now I have a new tech to research (oh joy), NVSR??
     
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  35. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    yay, another option for Nvidia to milk their customers....
     
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  36. clayton006

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    Umm g-sync can operate up much higher than 75hz unless my desktop monitor at 144hz shuts it off above 75hz which I extremely doubt. G-sync does have a floor at 30hz however.
     
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    That's exactly what I thought, but didn't challenge it, I just thought I'd throw it out there for comment :).

    IIRC nvidia g-sync is the same hardware as freesync and just needs NGreedia's licensed firmware/driver. I dunno, It all gets my simple mind confused :eek:

    All I can say is some suppliers are accepting orders, some saying soon, and some saying 'not on our radar'...
     
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    You're right, I had an ASUS ROG Swift PG278Q and it used to give me 144 FPS with GSYNC capped to its refresh rate
     
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    One thing to keep in mind...

    The desktop monitors with G-SYNC have actual hardware for G-SYNC support. Our laptops were just software enabled G-SYNC but the GPUs never had any actual real extra hardware besides transistors to say the GPU is G-SYNC or not.

    This must be some actual hardware finally being implemented for proper G-SYNC support. Guess for us current 120hz users we either get G-SYNC up to 75hz or use V-SYNC @ 120hz lol
     
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    Thanks, I was told the QHD 120hz panel was shipping so it being panel hardware fits.
     
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    I think the controller chip designers are going to start including some more features now there is more direct interfacing going on.
     
  43. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    This on the new model P870?
     
  44. MickyD1234

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    That's what I'm being told, although the full feature set in the above doc may not be everything we get, but it looks like a real leap forward in smooth, low latency gaming.
     
  45. Ashtrix

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    src op
    NVSR, It's nothing but a new Buzzword and using the already existing eDP technology, Same as GSync on notebooks.

    NGreedia - The way customers are meant to be played.
     
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    that sounds exactly like it should be for a 5kg laptop
     
  47. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    You say that but it's impressive considering how hungry the 1080 gets at full bore.
     
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    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    On my semi-unlocked GTX1080 AMP I've seen around 275w power draw (Warframe Ultra 4K).
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    I've had 550w out of my machine so far.
     
  50. AKHIL

    AKHIL Notebook Guru

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    This guy got the 3K 120hz panel p870dm3 already WTHHHHHHHHHHHH :mad: :mad:


     
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