*** Official Clevo P870DM2/P870DM3 (Sager NP9873/NP9872) Owner's Lounge! - The Phoenix 2 is here! **

My beast arrives tomorrow and I'm terribly anxious. I haven't felt this way since the day before I picked up Perfect Dark for the N64. I'm likely going to leave work early tomorrow to make room on my test bench and have everything ready for my machine.

 

did you run Furmark by any chance? that can fry any GPU and make it barbecued chicken @Papusan

 

Now that's weird. I think you should create another Windows partition and check to see if Nvidia still doesn't recognize them. This way you will know it's not Windows being Windows.

 

Nope. The only tests I've run are AIDA64 and 3DMark and the only modification was a repaste with Grizzly Kryonaut a few days ago which caused no immediate issues.

 

In my experience (again, in MY experience), I found IC Diamond to be the best thermal paste of all, followed by LCU, Grizzly Kyronaut gave me the worst results.

What I suspect has happened here is that because Grizzly Kyronaut is a bit liquidy, it may have slipped on to the PCB and perhaps fried the GPU.

See: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-overclockers-lounge.788975/page-156#post-10240358

What do you think @Mr. Fox @bloodhawk @Papusan @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER

 

I doubt they intentionally sent me a lesser heat sink, but I'm still disappointed, considering everything else went so well.

 

I'll be interested in this as I just ordered some and I don't want this to happen to me.

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And people will never learn bro. The topic FurCrap killing graphics, is on the whole web

 

The developer of Furmark should be sued for making a lot of barbecue chicken from our GPUs. It's a freakin' demolition virus!

 

Kryonaut doesn't fry electronics.

 

Maybe The developer of Furmark work for Nvidia/Amd?

 

Wat.

 

then please run it overnight and take a long nap

 

Umm Kryonaut isn't conductive. :S
That's Conductonaut the liquid metal version. Like CLU.

 

I didn't see any Kryonaut on the PCB. Also, Kryonaut is non conductive so it shouldn't cause a problem.


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ooops *face palm to me*

so what might've happened here on his new lappy?

 

I think Phoenix got the two products mixed up. I just used some Kryonaut on a GPU today and it is thick.

 

Either something like furmark, or too much OC.
Can be too many things tbh.
Gotta see what the status of the cards says in their properties in the device manager.

 

Yeah. I use Kryonaut as well. A lot.
And it is.. T H I C K.
Their naming is confusing.

 

I'm currently working with the HID staff to figure it out. I'll let everyone know how it turns out.


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I hope you can talk to their tech support (preferably Ms. Vivian) and see what she has to say

 

I think your problem could be software related aka Windows having a mental breakdown. I am an avid supporter of Windows but even I know Windows will become corrupted because you literally blinked the wrong way when booting it.

 

What does the Device Status say, when you goto the cards properties under device manager ?
Also how and when did this start happening.

 

I was surfing the web then the computer crashed. The settings were all on stock. (I use a 4 GHz Throttlestop profile for regular internet/netflix). Upon reboot everything was haywire.

Here is a picture of what it looks like. Device manager lists PCI bus 1 "Windows has stopped this device because it has reported problems. (Code 43)"

http://imgur.com/a/BQWPR

(All those green pixels constantly change and move around.)

 

It sounds like premature device failure, tbh. It sucks, but it happens.

 

The green pixels thing worries me because that's what video cards that have died on me before do as they go bad. Although it was more red and green pixels. Maybe try each card by itself to see if you can narrow it down to one card? I think it's highly unlikely both cards went bad at once.

 

I'll try that tomorrow when I have some free time.

 

Looks like the master GPU is dying. At least yours is giving you warning. On my Asus G1s, the GPU simply died. No warning. No nothing. And this is two weeks in. That really sucks bro.

 

Yeah give that a shot. Also try going back to 372.70 drivers.

 

Word to the wise. Don't use hibernate or sleep on this thing at least for my build. Fresh install and hibernate will just stay at the Sager screen on boot. Sleep took like 5 minutes for the light to shut off but I don't think it was in sleep. I just landed in Charlotte and my bag was hot. Battery was dead and the laptop was pretty warm. Plugged it in at the airport and kicked the fans to full. Hope it didnt ruin it. I'm pretty sure it would have shut down if it got too hot while idle in the bag.

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Okay that's what I thought was going on that you got them confused but wasn't sure. Glad we cleared this up.

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That sucks royal dude. Hope you get it figured out.

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I have hibernation turned off in my BIOS (Prema BIOS), same with Fast Startup, it's just a hybrid shutdown (hibernate + shutdown) that often causes a mess

 

I have fast startup off as well and hibernate now. I should probably shut it off. The 950 can boot pretty fast. Although shutting down last time took 10 minutes. That's probably due to my domain stuff on it.

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dont forget to run powercfg -h off in an elevated command prompt to free the space that the hiberfil.sys takes up

 

Yep did that to turn it off.

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@Mr. Fox @Phoenix @Prema @bloodhawk +++
Remember Graphics in laptops are more vulnerable duo the weaker cooling http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/evga-ftw-1080-and-1070-have-overheating-issues.html

 

Ok, so here comes another please don't shoot the messenger.

For those wanting to buy a single nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 now, and upgrade later to SLi, or for those who just want the Vapor Chamber heat sink assembly and don't plan to upgrade to SLi later, you will need both the GPU and CPU heat sink assemblies because you will need the CPU assembly to provide the mounting connection for the GPU assembly. The price of the two assemblies is $175.00 (did I hear a great big OUCH! )

For those that just want the Vapor Chamber but do not intend to upgrade later, there is nothing we can do about the pricing at this point...that is Clevo's call.

For those that want to upgrade to SLi later, it will be best to wait for the upgrade kits to become available. They will include the 2nd GTX 1080, SLi cable, both heat sink assemblies, the 2nd 330W AC Adapter and the Converter Box. Together it will be much cheaper than buying the parts separately, starting with just the heat sink assemblies.

Those people that have already ordered the Vapor Chamber heat sink assembly, will get both assemblies once they become available (later in November we are told), at the original $75 price.

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Thanks for the info. But what will a single 1080 cost?

 

We don't know yet. That will come once there is enough supply in the channel that are not needed to build laptops. It usually takes 3-4 months for individual cards to become available.

 

Thanks for the update Donald. Glad I'm on these forums like a hawk. Based on this I immediately emailed Ted to change the GPU heatsink back to a T-Shaped one. I didn't want it holding up my rush order. Once upgrade kits are available we can go from there

 

So what everyone is saying is that this (sorry for the crappy pic):

http://imgur.com/Ep7ZIAy

Is not what I should be having for my single 1080? I noticed how hot on the single heatsink it was getting and how the second fan wasn't really blowing much hot air out. Almost useless.

 

That thing looks beefy as hell.

 

That t-shaped heatsink is for the P870DM2. If you ordered the DM3 single 1080, you should have the grid

OT: For those interested on how the machine temps for Civ6 on ultra 1080p 120hz:
CPU - Max 61C, Ave 56C
GPU - Max 74C, Ave 66C, 197W pulled according to Hwinfo

It's such a shame I can't provide any screenshots. Game refuses to return to windows screen when exiting, so I had to logout of the system every time just to return to windows.

Edit: No longer able to replicate with Civ 6, but here's a new one from Assassin's Creed Syndicate

 

Yeah, I ordered the CLEVO P870DM3 single 1080 from XoticPC. So it looks like they're shipping it with the DM2 heatsink? Ugh.

 

No one here has the T-Behemoth right ? I'm waiting for temperature data on that machine (Just read the dspboys post on the DM2 with that config). It would be the coolest of all the Pascal computers imho no unified hs nothing just plain robust beast.

Getting Vapor Grid one for a single 1080 seems great but what about the temperature thresholds / time for the internals, vapor to cool the heatsink off. Since It has too much free space with a 1080 absent and connected to the 6700K on the top of it...

Also wouldn't the fit become an issue because of the absent card and there are screws that hold that position now that no card is there plus the alignment too and what about the Fan no GPU no PWM signal why would it even spin, Only max fans I guess ?? and Clevo doesn't have the EC access to HWInfo for controlling the fans too, that's why I guess T-rex would be best for Single 1080-6700K and It would be cold as Pluto..

 

I almost regret not putting out more for the 1080 SLI for the better internals. Hope there is a way to get the T-Heatsink at least. Sounds great.

 

The DM2 - DM3 distinction has nothing to do with the heat sink assembly. It only has to do with what GPU’s are supported. DM2 supports either 1 or 2 nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 or 1 nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 while the DM3 supports either 1 or 2 nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080.

What determines which heat sink assembly you get is the GPU(s) you order. If you order one nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 you get the T heat sink assembly, and if you order 2 nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 you get the Vapor Chamber heat sink assembly. This is the way they come from Clevo, so it will be this way regardless of from which builder or reseller you purchase it.

 

A lot has happened for the past two months. When I ordered my system last August, the grid is only available for sli 1080, the t-shaped one is for single 1080 but is used on the dm2. A month later (around 3rd-4th week of September), the dm2 is only available for single and dual-1070's. The dm3 is now offered for single and dual 1080's. There are changes in the screens too, seems 3k is now the standard. Have you tried contacting Xotic about it?

I have the t-shaped heatsink, I was rooting for the vapor chamber though. The gpu temperatures are okay (<80C full load), using the overclock fan profile with ambient temps at 26C.

Edit: @Donald@HIDevolution thank you for the clarification
I forgot to mention that I'm also following the developments coming from the local Sager distributor here in the Philippines (helix.com.ph)