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How to Undervolt your Notebook GPU to Reduce it's Tempertaure

 

Are you running max fans for these stress test?

 

Yes, of course.

 

So you set max fans, but could not lower the voltage using throttlestop?

 

You applied Liquid metal both on the Intel LID and Heatsink? Any pict of your paste job? Cleaned up properly the old paste? And what liquid did you clean with? And you tuned ON in TS main window?

 

I cleaned it very neatly.

Where do I open TS? I saved the FIVR settings.

 

Click "TURN ON" Button on right side of Options. And don't forget that high ambient temp inside home will increase hardware temp with a factor of up to x1.5. This for every 1c degrees higher inside home temp.

Edit. And it's important that you applied Liquid metal on both the LID and Heatsink.

 

I applied LM on both sides. The laptop is under the air conditioner. Room:20 degree.
Thank you for help. Do you have any other suggestions?

 

Maybe Delete INI file in TS folder and start all over again with TS settings. Follow the guide above. Be sure TS running before tests (look into task manager). Or maybe take a look into your paste job.

 

Is the CPU heatsink making proper contact with the liquid metal? It may not be. Did you apply a layer to the heatsink as well? What was the original contact pattern like? Did you check the contact was close enough to use liquid metal?

 

Yes, I did it very smoothly.

 

@Papusan
How are your TS FIVR settings?

Processor: %100 load AİDA64--10 min.--door:20 degree---86 degree (with liquid metal)
Graphics cards:%100 load AİDA64--10 min.--door:20 degree--81 degree(with liquid metal)

The temperature of video cards is too high, right? In tests conducted by @Johnksss , 71 degrees (likely without liquid metal)

 

I would open up and take a look into your paste job or check if the screws is proper screwed down.

The test above with maxed fans? Barely 47w Cpu Package power with that high temp doesn’t look right.

 

Yes, max. fans.

I applied liquid metal very smoothly. I checked the screws 4 times.
I do not have any liquid metal left. In my country, liquid metal is not sold. Take back the liquid metal on the processor and graphics cards and again apply, it is OK? or Take a normal thermal paste, Apply thermal paste (not liquid metal)

 

If you haven’t other choices find out what’s wrong, there ain’t other options.

Hope you can find or have quality thermal paste. Check also pads imprint for components near Cpu (VRM’s etc). Maybe you can brush out your Liquid metal an screw down and test again. Take pictures.

The main problem is the Cpu temp. I’m not sure if you have/need to pick of Gpu cooling. Haven’t this model. I can’t remember as I now post from my phone.

 

I will open it again tomorrow. I will take your photos and add them here. thermal pads on the computer is very old, and CPU cooler a little bit in there. The touching part was not copper color. Can we solve the problem without too much expense, bro?

 

What time will you be online tomorrow?
I open the back cover on the P870DM3, take pictures and add it from the other laptop, Could you direct me step by step?

 

Might be an issue with the heatsink.

 

About same time as now and + 5-8 hours more. But there is also many clever users/Owner’s/company reps in the forum witch can help.

 

There is no problem in the vapor chamber, but the temperatures on the graphics cards are very high.
Is it the only solution to get the new one for cpu heatsink?

 

If it's making good contact and performing poorly then yes.

 

Not sure if you repasted the graphics. If then check the pads. @Meaker@Sager has the pads layout if needed.

Meaker, he has problems with high temp on both Cpu and graphics. Not that 80C on graphics is very bad. But 86C with 47w Cpu loads and Max fans ain’t good.

 

You guys do realize this was my P870DM3?
There is nothing wrong with any of the heat sinks.
I also posted real time pictures right before I drove it to Arizona and dropped it off.

 

I know that Johnksss From what I have read, he have done a repaste. Hence I said he have to check the paste job if he can't find other culprits for his high temps. I have never mentioned broken/wrong with the Heatsink. He has to start one place to find whats wrong.

 

Yes there's something not right, I have LM on both sides of my IHS and that kind of temp max is what I get on not-maximum (auto) fans using approx double that power consumption, 95W at 4.6

@otto_kahn can you post a pic of the temperature curves (all 4 cores, package and GPUs) using hwinfo graphs from when you start a heavy Cpu benchmark load, with a high update rate (500ms). The more it shoots up quickly the closer the problem is to the cpu. Fan/rad issues cause a more gradual steady rise in temps. You should also see a slight rise over time (many minutes) in gpu temps due to the bridge but if its really using only 47W that may not be enough to be observable. Basically the question is, does the CPU rad grille heat up to burning temps quickly or not?

 

He was getting high temps before he did the re paste because the stock voltage settings are set to high. I said to start with -100 to -150 on adaptive voltage. I also posted pictures of me running the same stress test.GPU can also be ran at something like .800 to .900 or so on vcore.

 

I know. Hence I said he had to start all over again with TS settings. He put in your settings and wasn't happy. Suddenly he start repaste as well. First start with software to find a culprit, if you can't find whats wrong then go on the hardware (thermal paste - check screws).

 

True. I totally agree.

Those settings are a starting place. They will not work unless his room temp is like mine. And he may also need to drop voltage even lower.
The paste is gelid on gpu/cpu.

This will give you a working idea.



The grey pads are fujipoly extreme thermal pads

 

im pretty sure the cooling system in the dm3 is unable to handle a desktop cpu and 1080 sli at full loads, you should expect it to be at 90C and throttle.

 

I opened the back cover again.
I cleaned liquid metal on processor and cpu heatsink. I don't have liquid metal. I can apply termal paste on CPU and CPU heatsink.
@Papusan

 

Clevo agreed with you when they wrote the stock firmware. With tweaking, it is possible, and not just at the 15C ambient I'm in (middle of winter here)

 

Wow, you're lucky you didn't kill anything with those giant globs of Liquid Metal, you must have big gaps as well for those globs to still be like that after removal. Also the CPU heatsink doesn't look wetted properly

Please look up multiple guides around here and on YouTube before trying it again

 

No copper shim? Maybe add 1mm shim between the cpu and heatsink to improve contact. When I bought mine from Hidevolution they provided a 1 mm shim. https://www.amazon.com/Chipset-Thermal-Heatsink-Copper-1-0mm/dp/B00OUJQWPE or use this https://shop.bitspower.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=4088&search=ihs

Try these:



then:



and lastly if budget allows:

 

I ran all day at 4.7ghz on the 7700k and 2ghz on the GPU cores

 

#metoo

 

How are your voltage settings?

 

Could you connect remotely to the computer and check its settings? (With teamviewer) @Meaker@Sager

 

Have you done a re-paste or did you screwed down again with same Liquid metal? If not, what thermal paste brand are you using now?

From @Johnksss post #10270. The voltage numbers in here should be ok to use (or even try a -15/20mV lower on the core for your 45 clocks settings). If it's still too hot, maybe try lower multi to 44 all cores with same settings in the link or whats suggested above and see what temp numbers you can get on Cpu.

 

I cleaned the graphics cards and the processor. I did not have any liquid metal. I have this: Xigmatek PTI-G3606 but I didn't use. I've cleaned all the surfaces right now. The thermal pads are in very bad condition. Could it be because of this? I want to refresh all of the thermal pads. What thickness and how much do you need?
@Papusan

 

All the settings are identical.

 

Send me your teamviewer id and pass in PM.

 

If the pads is not in good shape you have to change them... And as well try find better thermal paste.

Look on this pads setup for graphics.... But you need to get it confirmed (I haven't this model). Bro @Johnksss have probably the pads thicness numbers he used. Wait intil he reply back. For now be careful with running it too Hot before you make the re-pad and proper thermal paste application. Good luck.

 

Thank you very much.
@Meaker@Sager what thickness and how much thermal pad is needed for P870DM3?

 

Not something I have time to do, I know some kind people on here will do that though. Stock GPU voltage with power unlocked and at least a minor undervolt on the CPU iirc, not too different to stock.

 

How long have you been here? After 30 min Ok?

 

Been here for a while.

Sure.