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That's around the wattage I was hitting on my 6920 @4.0/1.25V with Prime95. IIRC it was only hitting around 55-65W for more reasonable loads like TSBench etc.

MSI, in their infinite wisdom, didn't enable the OC menu for 6920HQ GT80s.

 

Still SMH as to why only a 230W...Even the BGA 17R3 comes with a 240w....remember it's all about the % usage ratio of the PSU, rather than a PSU being good enough just because it's staying under the total output.

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Almost None of benchmarks is run with that 4.3 GHz!! Maybe the wimpy single 32M bench. Rest is a BIG throttling mess bro!!

 

Did you uninstall the MSI Gaming package, the one with the speed/performance settings?

If the 6920HQ was limited to 4.0ghz, it's really not bad. I haven't had or seen many run above 4.0ghz on the Haswell / Broadwell / Skylake laptop CPU's in day to day operations, OC'ing for fun yes - I got to 4.2ghz, but it wasn't practical.

The unlocked power / timeout for the 6920hq is a big win, and you were able to sustain higher clocks than the ones locked to 45w/47w, that's awesome

 

Yes, I agree that 4.0GHz is much better than 3.5GHz, no question about that. But, that raises the question about using the wrong tool to get the job done. If you don't have access to the right tools, that's a problem and you do the best you can by improvising and making the best of the hand you've been dealt. The better approach is the use the right tool for the job as often as possible. Otherwise, the job is harder to get done, isn't done as well, and the tools that are being using improperly are more susceptible to failure from being abused.

 

Way too much IMO. The screenshot in posted in the other thread, has 63W max pull @ 4.5Ghz.

 

AFAIK the 230w was the top end PSU for Asus until the new top end models like the G800VI / GX800VH with 330w and 2x 330w.

 

No, and to be frank, I don't care enough anymore to pull it out and try. Now I'm just waiting for next Saturday for my DM3 monster to arrive.

 

Ah, don't give up, it's right there and waiting to be mastered

Only playing on the *"best"* warps your viewpoint. Look at these guys here.

If you aren't going to play with it, give it to someone that will

Tuning a well appointed BIOS / vbios / desktop system is like shooting ducks in a barrel, it's no challenge

 

Hah, if someone wanted to purchase it that'd be swell. Can't post on the marketplace yet though, and the market outside of NBR is disappointing at best.

 

What GPUs does it have? Are you wanting to part it out? If so, I might want the GPUs out of it depending on what they are and how much you want for them. Not interested in anything else from an MSI machine, only maybe the GPUs.

 

I still haven't forgot that Dell' engineers pushed out first AW "Echo" models with highest ranked mobile i7 and 980M with the nice slim lightweight 180W psu

 

MSI have never been much intimate hardcore overclockers. They are more about gamers and for them it makes more sense to concentrate on the gpu past a certain point on the cpu in a way.

 

Ebay, craigslist, etc. Better to start now, and drop the price rapidly to sell, rather than let it depreciate and collect dust.

And, you only need less than 40 more posts to list it here, post more!!

 

I have a good idea about that, but i'll just have wait and see how it pans out later.

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Here's where you can help though. How do you turn on max fans?

 

please do, as much people as possible should do that. there are other fan brands out there that are really nice. Apower reminds me a bit of a agrimotor,

 

That was epic. The CEO even publicly announced that they would send out 240W PSU's upon request. At least it was addressed.

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Anyone knows if the 1080 GPU inside P775 is different from the 1080 inside P870 DM2 ?

 

Yeah, that's really sad. Such engineering talent and potential for greatness from the geniuses at MSI is laid to waste with gimped junkbooks.

But, if they continue to make great GPUs that we can repurpose for use in more robust products, then I wish them a long and prosperous future. At least we can give them props for contributing something of value to the rest of the world rather than wimping out with throwaway BGA GPU garbage that nobody else can benefit from.

 

Thanks to yours truly and my videos highlighting their screw up. They were trying to pretend it was fine until they got pushed into a corner on it.

 

Doubt you want them, lol. It's the MSI SLI 980s. I am potentially willing to part them out, but I have no idea how hard it is to sell the rest of an MSI machine piecewise.

 

same, was said vbios is different though.

 

Actually, if these will fit in SLI in the P870DM-G that would be a super nice upgrade past 980M SLI or single 200W 980 if the price is right.

I'm not sure on the used parts demand. You'd probably take a loss doing that unless you sold it piece-by-piece over time. You can actually make more doing that, but it takes time and patience. If you sell only the GPUs and then try to sell the rest of it as a barebones shell you probably won't get a lot of money for that. The GPUs, mobo and LCD are probably the most high demand items for parts that carry some good resale value. As you can see, almost everything for sale on eBay is severely overpriced. The used parts for sale for most notebooks are double, triple or quadruple their price purchased brand new, say for example from Dell Spare Parts.

 

I recall someone overlaying the PCB over the P870 MB and concluding that they wouldn't fit thanks to the tiny protruding piece, but my memory might be mistaken.

Incidentally, does anybody know where the ESS DAC output is on the DM3? Is it muxed onto the same output as the Realtek?

 

Not a chance for SLI, same format as the MSI 1070 (single):

https://www.techinferno.com/index.p...-gm204-gtx-980-m5500-n16e-gxxq7-all-variants/

 

On the MSI it's a physical switch, on the Asus it's a switch in the GPU Tweak app, at least it used to be. It might be in their system tuning app now.

I haven't had an Asus for 1.5 years now and they change up their software rapidly, so you probably want to consult the manual, Asus forums, etc.

 

Its the same thing again with their 1070. Its like they are trying to block out Clevo users with that useless bump on the left.

 

Of course... if they would work in Clevo for upgrades there would be zero basis for anyone that is truly a performance enthusiast to entertain the notion of buying an MSI with a BGA turdbook CPU. Their machines make less sense than anything else on the market with BGA. They are big, bold and beautiful (but half-assed engineered) DTRs monsterbooks that have been castrated with pathetic BGA CPUs. That shows us they can be evil and smart at the same time.

So, we're getting screwed by friends and family, and the folks next door are retards. Typical crappy neighborhood.

 

So now lets go back and re address this... Now that I have a few minutes to see why you picked using sli instead of single gpu. Everyone knows the scores for cpu are always different when using single or dual gpus. You are running sli so the score will be different.

This is the best "single in use gpu" cpu score. No where near 13k. let alone 13.6k
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/8488192
This machine has a bunch of lag going on, but i'll figure it out soon enough.
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9856831

 

If anyone can, you will. Then it will scream the questions " what in the hell is wrong with the idiots at ASUS" and " why on earth are these scumbags getting away with screwing their customers so hard, and for so long" LOL. Their engineers are brilliant, which makes their crimes (and MSI's) and deliberate acts of malice against their customers far more grievous than stupid mistakes made by the low-budget ignoramus brands.

Any company that produces motherboards as amazing as the RIVBE and selling notebooks crippled as bad as theirs are is getting away with murder, and clearly taking advantage of ignorant consumers. Maybe your influence can force a healthy level of accountability for this actions.

 

I took it apart and changed the tim, but I think i'll need to take it apart again and have a closer look at the heat sinks. Wish I could just turn on max fans, but that does not seem to be an option.

No siwtches as far as I see and no GPU tweak loaded

 

Good stuff! What TIM did you use?

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I kinda want to mess around with an MSI GT73VR Titan (1070 SLI) to see what I can do with it...

Exact same card for both models. 1080, 1070, 1060 are all the same design style for P870DM2/3 and P775DM2.

Put that thing on AC.

 

This time I used Noctua NT-H1. Didn't make a lick of difference.

It's been sitting on there. No way would I be testing with 1.45V stock volts on air. LOL

 

Mine is on route now

I won't be able to do massive amounts with it until next weekend most likely sadly.

 

Hey, I am always willing to try to push things as hard as they can be pushed, even if it's crippled. As long as the fun comes with a free price tag, I'm not held responsible for breaking weak crap that fails in the process, and I don't have to spend my own money on trash, it's all good. It's actually kind of fun to push trashbooks to the edge, or even over the edge to see what blows up or catches on fire. Nothing wrong with that kind of fun. But, they have to be willing to accept the return in a body bag and let bygones be bygones if things don't work out for the best.

 

It's an interesting cooling system in that machine @Mr. Fox at least for a single card.

 

Completely agree. I've had fun with my first two 17R3's, thanks to the stellar dell warranty rofl. It's all about having fun and it's perfect when there's virtually no risk. Fried the first mobo, and blew a gasket on the second. Just hilarious, but fun nevertheless.

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Is it the DM3?
If so and if you disassemble will you be able to send over some motherboard close ups ? And of the GPU's? Privately of course.

 

Both are already here:

https://www.techinferno.com/index.php?/forums/topic/10163-pascal-clevo-p-series-refresh/

 

Oh and while he's at it...I'd like the heat sink

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Sweeeeeet! Didn't them when the GPU images were posted for some reason.

Thank you good sir!

 

It is not a BIOS issue, those fans are meant to be noisy, what do you expect @ 4300rpm ?

 

I am really glad to hear that the fans are loud. If that means they are pushing lots of air violently through the radiators, that's wonderful news. I don't care about loud fans when they are producing the kind of results that should be expected from the extra noise. It's totally worth it as far as I am concerned. If they're just loud and not doing anything extra, well... that's kind of a waste. I would not like it if they were not ramming tons of air through the radiators.

 

Exactly. What people dont realize is that if you want to cool something like 2 x 1080's either you gimp the **** out of them and use smaller/slower fans, or you deal with it and enjoy the amazing performance.

 

Yup, that's right. Expecting cool and quiet when using air on a high performance system is just... well... poop in one hand, wish in the other one, and see which hand gets full the fastest.

 

Nope. They need them fans quite because their other haves be complaining about loud noise while watching their programs.

J/K

 

I would have to agree...after all this is a dtr in a compact environment, not a desktop with the luxury of a Closed loop cooler ... function over decibels. Otherwise buy an ipad with passive cooling. It's not to say that efficient cooling in a dtr can't be quiet.

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I would change to the newer 12v fans today if they could push more air, but those fans can't be used in the first P870DM.

 

Yes the mounts and positions are quite different.