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    *** Official Clevo P870DM2/P870DM3 (Sager NP9873/NP9872) Owner's Lounge! - The Phoenix 2 is here! **

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    Don't Worry... everybody wait the God Prema Magic bios :)
     
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    Note this is just a firestrike run I'll want to test some longer benchmarks.

    I'm in an air conditioned room at 21c with the machine flat on a desk.
     
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    ummm, you seem to be missing the most important part....the firestrike run it self. :D

    Edit. Mine will be here tomorrow.

    Edit: I dont see his post about the run....
     
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    Now see THIS, I can live with. Especially with a delidded CPU with CLU applied there, which I don't believe you're using right now, right?
     
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    Yes, we do.
     
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    Hold on a sec...While I bask in the sun for all of 20 minutes.
    GO GO Gadget BGA for the Win on cpu! :D
    Yep, just as great as a socket cpu. :D


    http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9872737
     
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    Bone stock hardware except for the ssd (not actually formatted yet) and ram at 2960mhz. Nothing else changed.
     
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    AKHIL Notebook Guru

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    one question :confused:which reseller has the 4k model in stock right now?? :(
     
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    bloodhawk Derailer of threads.

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    Fake results ...hmmm ... :eek:
     
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    Result not found :D
     
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    opps, try now.
     
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    Probably most do...I know we do.
     
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    Cool, top score and I still beat his Physics score, and got within spitting distance of the GPU score :)

    I never did get a Svet vbios to unlock the GPU's, I am OC'd to the max of the stock limits:
    http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/6559467/fs/5708173

    Also, back to our comparison, I wasn't even looking at the GPU score, nice to see the 980m SLI can beat a 1070 single :)

    http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/9872737/fs/5708173
     
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    Ok. That sounds pretty acceptable. Better than stock thermal paste and CLU at the CPU and/or with a delid should be fine. Probably would still use CLU at the GPU contacts to help the vapor chamber distribute it better.
     
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    how many days you need to ship it if i buy today
     
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    Set cpu to 5950HQ
    Set gpu to 980M
    Click search
    Then change any to 1
    And go from there
     
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    Physics score is lower in last two 3DM UI with Fire Strike. Compare apples to apples. Use same 3DM UI version :rolleyes: But latest 3DM UI will give a bit better total score.
    And 13 227 in Fire Strike physics with near 4.3GHz is a bit low @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER
     
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    Physics score won't change much between 1 or 2 GPU's, it might go down, but it won't go up. The top single GPU Physics score is about the same as the top 2 GPU Physics score, as I would expect using the same CPU's and OC (at least for them):

    http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/6559467/fs/8488192/fs/5708173
     
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    Please email me with your questions. The forum is not the proper place to conduct personal business.
     
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    Time Measurement Error....
    This is what I be talking about. All these excuses being made about why a score isn't better than someone else. I play with the cards i'm dealt, not the ones I wish for. And last I checked, My 1680V2 trump all your scores past/present and future, right?

    Now let me go back to cracking jokes about my BGA. :)
     
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    Noo :D You tried to cheat :bigyes: JK :vbthumbsup:
     
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    I assume that, LOL. But Skylake 4 core i7, if it's desktop or BGA should provide about the same score vs. same clock speed :rolleyes:
     
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    Actually, no. People wish it did, but the reality of the matter it doesn't. But you know me...Over time I will let you know if that is even a real possibility. Since I have both.
     
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    Come'on man, scootch over... make a little room at the top :D o_O
     
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    i did check your inbox
     
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    @Papusan Better kick back, because now @Meaker@Sager has a 6700k. His scores might become counterfeit. :D :D
    Leaders Board:

    Highest Overclock: @bloodhawk / 5001.2 MHz

    Firestrike 980 GTX: @bloodhawk / Score: 14642

    Firestrike 980M GTX SLI: @Mr. Fox / Score: 18

    Firestrike 860M GTX: @SRSR333 / Score: 4655

    Sky Diver 980 GTX: @Mr. Fox / Score: 35809

    3DMark11 980 GTX: @Mr. Fox / Score: 19111

    3DMark11 980 GTX SLI: @Mr. Fox / Score: 25055

    3DMark11 980M GTX SLI: @Thumper_23 / Score: 26640

    3DMark11 860M GTX: @SRSR333 / Score: P6032

    3DMark Vantage 980 GTX SLI = @Mr. Fox / Score: P60330


    3DMark Vantage 980M GTX SLI = @Mr. Fox / Score: P62561

    CINEBENCH R11.5: @Papusan / Score: 11.73

    CINEBENCH R15: @Papusan / Score: 1065CB

    wPRIME 32M: @Papusan / Score: 4.148

    wPRIME 1024M: @Papusan / Score: 132.491 seconds - 2min 12sec 491 ms

    Aquamark3: @Mr. Fox / Score: 391210

    GPUPI:
    @ajc9988 / Score: 38.175s + 1.419s

    AS SSD Benchmark: @Phoenix / Score: 4330
     
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  34. Ionising_Radiation

    Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)

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    Damn. Each of these scores are at least four times as good as mine.

    :(

    GM107 pleb race
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    Although, as you know, you beat my gpupi score on this thread... You just never put yours up here (I say knowing I may lose the only spot I have in the list)...

    Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
     
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    I beat a lot of scores on that list, but it's not always about that. Sometimes it's just fun to sit back and watch. :)
     
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    wow when did that the transition from Johnksss to Johnksss@iBUYPOWER happen?
    Anyway best of luck.
     
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    Look in his sig :D On top :p
     
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    Last week actually, but only just did the name change today.

    Thanks
     
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    This can easly be fixed. Benchmark must be documented by a recording. I have done it :D
     
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    You should not be so shy :notworthy:
     
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    And that is how they treat their forum representatives.
    Haha. That was before my time.
     
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    I ran furmark for 12 minutes, card 1 dropped from 1833 to 1745 and card 2 dropped to 1807 when temps reached 90C. Hopefully prema's bios can fix this throttling issue. Lifting the back on the laptop 1-2cm drops temps by 3-4C when fans are max speed. [​IMG]
     
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    You can Kill your graphics with that Virus :cool:
     
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    How? In that case I'll uninstall right away
     
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    Yes do it before @Prema give you an explanation :D And never use that Virus again!!
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    In the older days....This program would force your system to drive the cards past what they are rated for. Then in the blink of an eye, the system would shut off and never come back on or you would get the 5 or 8 beep count for a dead gpu. Nvidia has put in safe guards for furmark because of all the rma's they had to take in behind it. And I think quite a few were using it to just get fresh gpu's....
     
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    Maybe this is a bit too early for him? :D
     
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