*** Official Clevo P870DM2/P870DM3 (Sager NP9873/NP9872) Owner's Lounge! - The Phoenix 2 is here! **

No one can beat my score of 133713371337

 

Hi, i know it's not on topic, but maybe you know what way to put 3 missing MOSFET's on gtx980m Clevo card? Chips have 2 contacts connected to 1 on one side, where this side with 2 connected contacts should face, lower right or upper left?

 

Scheduled delivery:
Fri 8/26/2016 by end of day

Can't wait to take it out for a spin.

 

Each pair is rotated 180 degrees from each other (and the arows mark the first pin). Use a multimeter to figure it out if you are still unsure.

 

Have they ever tried doing this before? It sounds great and all in terms of making laptops even smaller.

 

@ everyone with a Clevo mobile 1080, 1070, 1060:

Please run a GPU-Z (use only latest version) render test @ stock clocks after running FULL FAN for at least 30s (FN+1):

Record the GPU-Z log while doing so and PM me this log file (would probably miss it in this thread)!

For the Mod I want all cards to reach (and hold) the same base performance and for that I need to build a database of the currently sold stock spectrum.

EDIT:

UPDATE FOR SLI OWNER:

 

The more I read the harder it is the wait for that GSync Certification.........Has anyone ran testing with the 4k panel in regards to gsync and image quality at lower resolutions such as 1080p and 1440p?

 

Well, I've tossed my hat into the ring. I have now put through an order for a P870DM-3 model here in the U.K. via PCSpecialist.co.uk. Should be expecting it sometime at the close of next week.

Brief summary of specification:

Chassis & Display Vortex Series: 17.3" Matte 4K IPS LED Widescreen (3840x2160)
Processor (CPU) Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Processor i7-6700k (4.0GHz) 8MB Cache
Memory (RAM) 32GB HyperX IMPACT 2133MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card 2 x NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1080 - 8.0GB GDDR5* Video RAM - DX 12.1, G-SYNC

* This is likely an error and telephone support weren't entirely clear on the matter.

 

Anyone who has bought an 120 Hz display can kindly confirm if it is 8 bit or 6 bit and what is the color coverage for it? Thanks!

 

I am curious of that also. I have a 13 machine with a slightly lower than 4K screen. I always scale down to 1366 or 1980 and it scales beautifully. If it didn't I couldn't use it. I wonder how well this 4K scaled down to 1080...

 

The biggest difference is when you go from 20-30 fos to 60fps

P.S. The guy who still uses a GTX 860m xD

I using a FHD display and using a lower resolution, like 1366*768 from inside game, it looks much worse than if using FHD and lower settings. Same happens with any any lower resolution than the native one in FHD, but I seriously hope that from 4K to FHD it will be better.

 

If only scaling down to FHD gave us access to faster refresh rates. Going from 144hz to 100hz was doable. Going to 60hz is a tough pill to swallow.

 

I can't play on 60 anymore after being on 120/144 for couple years now. I could maybe live with 100....

 

Yeah.. Sadly I can't either. There really is no going back.

 

Open two GPU-Zs.
Set one to top card, set second to bottom card (I'm talking about the drop down arrow).
Set both to log to file.
Run PCI/e render test in FULLSCREEN (according to GPU-Z this is needed to test for multi-GPU, even though SLI has no such physical or software limitation).
Acquire logs after 30 seconds.
??????
Profit!

Unfortunately, you won't be able to stress the second GPU *only*.

 

In my case the slave gpu is not stressed even in sli and fullscreen when using gpuz stresstest. However e.g. heaven stresses both cards.

Gesendet von meinem SM-G928F mit Tapatalk

 

Let me test myself.

Okay. I shet you not. You need to go to nVidia Control Panel --> Manage 3D settings --> Program settings --> Add --> TechPowerUp GPU-Z (gpu-z.exe) --> SLI rendering mode change to Force Alternate Frame Rendering 2 --> Apply.

No need for fullscreen. Stresses both GPUs equally. ~48% TDP on my cards, max clockspeeds, 99%-100% GPU load, etc.

@Prema here's an update. Because... well lol. I'm dying, I had to add GPU-Z to control panel. Just... wow.

 

you got your P870DM3 already bro?

 

So this question is for Mr. FOX or any of you other modders.

I followed Mr. Fox's two videos to disassemble my barebones p870dm3 and everything mostly went to plan. During the process I also added components (I had a barebones system with just gpus).

At the end (tons of screws later), I swapped out the display panel (it came with the 120hz 1080p panel) with my p870dm's 4K 60hz panel. As Mr. Fox has mentioned, I just swapped the full display housing.

When removing the 4K panel from my old p870dm, the black "handle" on the connector (to the motherboard) broke off (one side), but the connector seemed perfectly fine. I think this is the edp connector referenced in the video.

I removed the 1080p lcd housing and connector from the new machine without incident. I then screwed in and plugged in the 4K lcd and housing. The edp connector snapped in correctly and the connection seemed perfect.

Finally, I put all the other parts in, pasted the gpus and CPU, put back in all the ribbons etc.

After all the work, I went to power on the device. No video. I get fans and the power/charging lights come on. But after a few seconds (15 or so) the device just powers off.

I have no OS in the laptop yet. So I am not sure if the autopower off after 15 to 20 is normal. I can't see anything to tell.

My next step (was up all night on this), is to try secondary video put and see if I get anything.

I am second guessing myself...did the CPU go bad? Gpus not seated correctly? Or is it the lcd connector?

I am used to motherboard beeps to give one an idea. The clevo makes no noises.

Could my 4K lcd be incompatible? Do I need to reset the bios somehow because I swapped panels?

I believe both are non gsync panels for what it is worth.

Any help would be appreciated. I am running out of ideas :/

Thanks everyone.

O

 

Put back in the 120Hz panel and see if it works. If so, then your 4K panel is somehow incompatible, or something.

 

THX @D2 Ultima

Please check my updated post and see if I put your SLI render info in there properly...and/or if it can be further simplified.

Nope, it'll be a few weeks before I get a taste of the Phoenix myself...anyway it's been an entire year now, so kind of got used to waiting...

 

Yup, that's about it there. As long as SLI is enabled in the driver, that'll do it. If you want to be more certain, add "at the bottom left" to "I'm talking about the drop down arrow", and "(fullscreen not necessary)" to "Run PCI/e render test", but that's about as simple and fool proof as it'll get.

If I can help any other way you know where to find me!

 

Can someone clarify for me...

I've ordered a Sager NP9872 from Xotic PC with the FHD 1080p 120hz panel with the GTX 1080.

Will I have g-sync?

I missed the fact that there was any difference since in the Nvidia announcement and on MSI laptops they all said the 120hz panels would be gsync....i also misread the specs and saw that the 4K panel had gsync, but the way things were spaced I read it as confirmation both panels had gsync on the Sager... Now I'm a little worried and irritated I could have made such a mistake.

Thank you for any help and info.

 

Just curios, but how much did a barebones one cost you oh sorry?

 

No it will not have G-Sync. FHD 120Hz panels are not yet certified by Nvidia for G-Sync (rumors are that they have been certified recently, but the certified ones will take some time to hit the market).
And before you ask further, even after the panels are certified, there is no way to make the existing panels work with G-Sync, apart from swamping out the GPU (and probably modding bios). The GPU in current (non certified) 120Hz system does not support internal G-Sync.
Sorry but you are SOL.

 

Thank you... Now to see about cancelling my order then.

 

So i was just looking at Eurocom, and they seems to have the FHD 120Hz screen option. ANd in G-Sync section, it doesn't say it is not supported. @EurocomTechspert can you please inform if this means that FHD 120hz can have g-sync?

 

tested overwatch and blackdesertonline both on ultra settings. these games seem to reach 90C, then one of the graphics cards clocks down to 1400 from 1833 while the other stays at 1807, this underclock makes the gpus stay at a constant 82-84C. I'm not sure if there's anyway to disable this, but overwatch is still running at a constant 120fps with vsync on.

 

No GSYNC on the 120hz panels and your GPU is not GSYNC compatible so even when nVIDIA does certify the panel, you won't be able to enable GSYNC, this is why I canceled my order

 

I got it from R&J tech for $3159 it came with the two 1080s, but I loaded it with everything else.

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Eurocom can say anything they want, no GSYNC for the 120hz panel for now unless they are supplying GSYNC enabled GPUs with all their systems then it's only a matter of time till the display panel gets certified

 

So an update, secondary video out (DP/HDMI) does not output to anything. I will try going back to the FHD screen. However, it is surprising if the 4k panel isn't compatible sonce it workEd on the p870dm. It was also part of the original build (not a swap in.).

Any other ideas? Does clevo not do audible alerts?

The unit still shuts itself off after a 15-30 se old interval.

Thanks guys

O

 

Are your gpus fully seated and power wires connected? SLI cable reattached?

Reseating memory is almost always my first step when it won't boot.

Just thinking of the basics.

 

I have heard (in this forum) that the screens have been certified, the reason why these are not being offered by most re sellers is because
a. It will take some time for the screen manufacture to supply these certified screens in bulk.
b. The re sellers had ordered their stock in advance which was without G-Sync and now they want to clear this stock first.

I have been checking the website of all major re sellers since Pascal announcement and initially Eurocom did not offer 120hz FHD for P870DM2/3. They were offering the same screens as P870DM1 (60hz FHD &QHD screen both G-sync). Now i can see that they have added 120hz. And in the G-Sync section it is not mentioned that any screen is not qualified. (if i remember correctly, when P870DM1 was launched, initially, they used to mention that G-Sync is not supported on QHD screen). So thats why i wonder if they have received the new systems with certified screens or is it just an oversight.

 

Good chance the eDP cable is messed up. This happened to me, but the cable was just not seated properly.
Just to confirm you are using the 40 pin eDP for the 4k panel right ?

 

Diagnostics in laptop is same diagnostics in desktop.
Start by removing and reinstalling ram sticks. Then remove cable ribbons one by one. It could be anything from a short circuit in one of the USB boards to a component not seating properly. Your goal after each step should be to see if the system posts.
PS. Take a look at the cable ribbons and connector ends to see if pins are bent/touching.

 

This has changed in the last day or so, now the 120hz is there AND Gsync is a chargeable extra so it's looking like they are ready to go.

I'll drop them a line asking for confirmation...

 

I tried resetting the easy to access memory (and removing it). No go. Gonna to a tear down and will try reseating the hard to access Dimas. Will also repeat the gpus.

Aftwr reading another teardown and replace of the 1080p to 4K panels on a p870dm, I really can't see it being an incompatibility. I might check the seating of the edp cable though...

Those symptoms seem to have happened to another when it was loose. I was so certain I had it seatEd correctly though.

I wish there was a way to boot and test with the front cover off (with access to the edp cable). But you have to pull out the gpus to get there...

O

 

I actually took Mr. FOX up on his idea and literally just swapped the whole housing. So I took the 4K panel and housing (including edp cable) from my p870dm. So the cable should be the correct one.

I will check reseating it though...

 

Yeah if the cables fit, you should be good. Just that because of the cable breaking on one side on the mother board end might be more severe than you think.
When i had the lose cable issue, it wasn't anything major, i just had to press it down , didn't even make a click.
That end of the connection is pretty annoying, so i would double check that. Otherwise if you need a new cable, i have one for sale. (shameless plug)

But yeah good chance if you press the motherboard end in properly, it should be good to go, just make sure none of the pins are bent or broken.

 

Yea I freaked out last night when I tore one side of the black plastic "handle" on the edp cable (motherboard end). However, the connector looked perfect. It was just the black handle. I then read a teardown where somebody doing the same swap (on a p870dm) did the same thing. So I think the cable itself is fine. I guess we will see. It did snap in for me when I put it in the p870dm3. I wasn't expecting to hear a snap but it looked good and snug.

Wish you could test the connection without having to put everything back in...

O

 

I actually have tested mine multiple times without everything assembled. But i have a single 980 so its super easy. Not sure how risky it is with 2 x 1080's. But till the time you get the splash screen you know it worked.
Here are the videos i made for Phoenix :

Spoiler: Stuff

 

Let me check that out. I guess since I am unplugging all these cables and the keyboard I assumed I couldn't. How did you leave on your gpu? Did you just reseating it after the screws underneath were removed (holding faceplate)...?

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Pretty much, i have done it while holding it with a finger (super risky, make sure you are grounded), and even with the card screwed in to the motherboard. But you will need to place the top face plate on loosely to turn on the system with the power button. and just place the system flat on top of the battery so that it makes proper connection.

JUST MAKE YOU TURN THE SYSTEM OFF AS SOON AS YOU SEE SOMETHING ON THE SCREEN.

 

Seems Eurocom are 'almost' ready to go. Quote: 'Shipping is in about 10 days, panels are 120Hz with G-Sync support. Just waiting for final Nvidia F/W update and G-Sync drivers.'

 

You like to live on the edge. I've seen the arc from those actually set something on fire, I'd be using something very nonconductive and very not a part of my body to hold it down if trying this.

 

Haha true. But the part that I push down with the finger, is the edge of the board. Easiest way is to just screw the card down.

 

Agreed.

 

Slightly low QD32 4K Abut otherwise not bad for a single drive

 

Very nice, which drive? I thought the NVMe's were only 2200/1500 unless in RAID ... thanks.