This means around $16000 usd for similar sized Optane![]()
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I have not overclocked so everything is stock. I have been playing Mass Effect Andromeda with auto fans and getting up to mid to high 80's.
And with the Prema BIOS do you mean that they will not help flash it or the BIOS will not work at all? XoticPC looks like to be a partner of Prema bios and they sell Sager. I don't mind flashing the BIOS when it is released just wanted to see if it would be compatible. -
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thats why u gotta go for 128-256gb type LOL. i remember my first SSD being 120GB for $200 and i thought it was a steal LMAO. however optane on the other hand probably wont drop much in price tbh because number one its intel, number two theres only 2 companies micron and intel, and number 3, its meant to replace ram once the endurance part is fixed. i'd expect 128gb for like $400 i'd still get it, no need for silly raid game anymore.
this would actually work out pretty nicely inside 870KM1, a 128gb optane for boot drive, two 960 pro in raid0 for work space (storage, vmware, video editing, storing games etc). all thats missing is a better heatsink for cpu and hope upcoming coffeelake 6 cores would work in it.Last edited: Mar 26, 2017Papusan likes this. -
You looked in my post #889? I think we need competition in the industry.
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we need to have those more. the article came out a whileback and theres no more new news about it yet so maybe another few yrs before it reaches consumer side of things. onething for sure is that samsung would push for consumer end side of things a lot faster than intel cause intel wants to m!lk for as long as possible. IF taken a direct comparison with its saying 70% lower latency in read, then it will be closer to optane's performance. as for endurance wise, right now optane is broken in terms of endurance so samsung got a shot in this.Papusan likes this.
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Gursimran82956 Notebook Consultant
Off topic
Is there any reason to name 7th gen Intel processors as kabylake
8th as coffeelake
6th as skylake
Who even decides this?(rehtorical Q)
I mean why cofee, sky , kaby?
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hows the 5ghz 24/7 usage going?
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Why anything? It's a code name
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More <code> names
Intels Skylake-SP Xeon-processors will get metal based names
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Psh, they could have used interesting metals
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XoticPC is a Prema partner for their brand of laptops only. I think it was in the DM2/3 thread, but Sager will not allow Xotic to flash Prema. Your only shot would be the PM @Prema himself and see what he might be able to do when the KM1 BIOS is ready.TomJGX and ExcuseTheN00b like this.
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woah @Papusan
"Pricing for Optane Memory M.2 2280 modules start at just $44 (16GB) and peak at $75 (32GB). The operating system recognizes the new products as addressable storage, just like a regular hard disk drive or solid-state drive. Intel told us that support for the drives as cache starts with the latest 200-series chipset products that feature an additional four PCI Express lanes over the older 100-series chipset."
"I'll be one of the first to take advantage of the new 3D XPoint technology in a RAID 0 array with three 32GB M.2 NVMe drives configured in a 96GB array to test what the technology is capable of." LOLOLOL
looks like caching is just gonna straight out use the m.2 2280 form factor but at only 32GB lol. can't even fit windowsLast edited: Mar 27, 2017Papusan likes this. -
Gursimran82956 Notebook Consultant
I meant like they
Were sitting around a lake and thought
That there was a sky up
So BOOM
Skylake
Next time they thought that they weren't doing a new thing for the 3rd year too so like a morning ritual for many people
CoffeeLake
For the kabylake i don't even want to know what was their thought process
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So I re pasted my 7700k and I'm hitting 100c on non synthetic like gaming. This can't be normal...
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thats interesting, but im sure people will find ways around it. the only real issue i see here is, support from IRST and intel will make that only latest IRST version support and capable of reading optane which can only be installed on windows 10+.
ultimately, it is still a m.2 pcie device and bios will be able to read it, and should be able to recognize it as a mass storage device hence we can install windows on it. just speculation at this point but only educated guesses as i donno $h!t about windows.
if not.. then i could always refuse to use IRST as it benefits me little to none in none-raid 0 scenarios i only really install it for write cache boost, which optane will cover it with it's performance regardless. or i could install windows on say, SSD and then image to optane and force boot off optane m.2 afterwards maybe etc etcPapusan likes this. -
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John@OBSIDIAN-PC Company Representative
Well a repast will not be enough in most cases, not for that CPU.
You can try the app in my signature and apply the 7700K profile, one click stuff, made for everyone who do not know how to use TS.
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cj_miranda23 Notebook Evangelist
Finally got mine today from hidevolution but unfortunately I am stuck on the "Hi there Lets get a few basic things out there" set-up after choosing express setting. I'm facing the same problem as this https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us...ere-lets/06d8432f-5a94-4cb9-8549-72517cbf5cc7.
Corrupt windows 10 installation? This is disappointing especially for its price! I was expecting that it will work out of the box w/o hiccups. What solution should I do?
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Give them a call, i'm sure they can walk you through some steps. Do you have a second PC where you can download an ISO?
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cj_miranda23 Notebook Evangelist
A OS Reinstallation + Drivers USB Flash Drive is included . What is the key for accessing the bios? I want to set boot to USB so that I can reformat the unit. F8 and DEL keys are not working. -
Meaker@Sager Company Representative
F2 for the BIOS.
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cj_miranda23 Notebook Evangelist
UPDATE:
Everything is fine now! The good people from HIDEVOLUTION help me resolved the issue. Special thanks to Zoltan for guiding me thru the process and of course to Donald also. -
Lets all take a second to appreciate the great reps from all of the companies who build on the clevo chassis. Thank you all!
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heh anything linus does isnt very resourceful. i'll take the bet optane will be useful to me in how i use it to take most advantage out of it.
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I am getting NP9876 soon. Just wondering if it'd be possible to use RAMs @ higher frequencies (e.g 2800Mhz, 3000Mhz, 4000Mhz etc.) on it without any problems? The default limit for RAM seems to be 2400Mhz but I am thinking maybe there is a way to go beyond the limit? XMP perhaps? Thanks.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
You can set higher speeds in the BIOS, up to 2800mhz is easy, 3000mhz can take a little playing and beyond that is exploring the edges for SODIMMs at the moment.
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So, with the 3k 120Hz screen on this, can I finally have my dream of 3D stereoscopic viewing on this laptop?
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That 9 minute waste of time made me also wonder if it is only worthwhile for the three people on earth who would be running a Z270 chipset with a spinner HDD as your boot drive.....
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I wish, but NVIDIA killed 3D VISON license support for the internal screen on Notebooks since the introduction of the GTX9xx(M) series due the lack of ODM customer...they could just enable it in the driver but sadly it's still a license thing just like g-sync.
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Prema are you there?
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Really? RAM can be overclocked with stock bios and without any tools such as XMP?
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@Phoenix @Prema @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER @Papusan @TomJGX
A welcome change in the KM1 stock bios, you have the option to undervolt with a negative offset.
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Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
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Last week?
y00 kidding?
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Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
I couldn't find an image for last quarter of the year
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Question for the P870KM1 users out there... I hear the 7700k runs warmer than the 6700k. curious to know what overclocks are you guys running on the 7700k and what temperatures are you getting while gaming (with the heat of the 1080 sli) and the cpu. Also temperatures under some kind of stress test like Aida 64.
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@Phoenix - wow the keyboard does suck on this thing
am enjoying typing on the surface pro 3 more than on the clevo
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Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
glad more people are starting to see where I was coming from and why I sold my P870DM3.
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Maybe you missed the second comments?
I just saying
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Maybe.
But having time behind the keyboard of MSi and Clevo, I wouldn't mind spending a bit more on MSi and upgrading it to 7740K late-. Wait, wait, hold on...Spartan@HIDevolution likes this. -
Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
and FYI, in the 1337 lingo, it's j00 (you) not y00
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Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
After using the MSI SteelSeries Keyboard, I'd never wanna use a laptop with any other keyboard. Other than maybe, an Alienware if they offer us socketed hardware with decent cooling in the future.
@Papusan Did you convince Mr. Azor to give us sockets?
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Dellienware is a lost case
Mr. Azor is also Vice President for DELL'S XPS lineup. Remember consistency bruh!! Can hold down costs with same tech!! Only the branding name is different. + the AW scull.
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Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
I thought he was your friend since you mention him in every post you make
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just the arrow key placement irks me on both keyboard
aw has it right to not lump the arrow key with the numpad / right shiftSpartan@HIDevolution likes this.
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