In actually bios , i mean stock bios / control center is everything locked with CPU without K.
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clevo-extreme Company Representative
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Are those air gaps between fan and fin grilles, especially on the middle fan?
@clevo-extreme was this all fully screwed together when this pic was taken?
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Here are some "under the hood" pics of P870TM1 with SLI GTX 1080....
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Yes, see the foam for lining it up, increases to fin area were made with the heatpipes no longer running into the fin stack, they have done a fair amount of testing on this so it could be down to its influence on airflow but to be fair I am not sure. -
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Anyone has a picture of the thermal pad setup for this laptop so I can put it in the OP?
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I'd like to know as well. I received 3 extra thermal pads and tubes of thermal paste that I'd like to apply. But I don't know where they intended them to go.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
The pads are for M.2 drives.
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I see. M2 drives only? I remember Donald saying that some were already applied, somewhere. I guess I'll just have to open the laptop when I get a chance to see exactly where.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
You usually get a set in case you want to add more or swap out a drive a few times and the pad degrades or gets lost
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FYI - Windows 10 Pro (1703) is the sweet spot for having things work more or less as they should. No lag in gaming(CS:Go has rubber banding issues on 1709) or Thunderbolt connection issues, unlike when running the Fall Creator's Update (v1709), where my external keyboard and mouse would not work consistently if I had a Thunderbolt 3 drive plugged in....
edit: also, on 1703, Remote Desktop Connections don't randomly connect/disconnect, while 1709 made remote work almost impossible (connecting to a 1703 machine)Last edited: Dec 9, 2017 -
My P870 finally shipped after the long wait for the single gpu vapor chamber. Will post benchmarks when I get it on Wednesday.
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Hopefully yours will be better then mine. My GTX 1080 started smoking while i was at work. Now i have to RMA it after having it for 1 week.
https://imgur.com/a/7NHxG
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Wow, condolences. What were your clock settings? I've been getting 4.5Ghz across all 6 cores with no throttle (undervolt at -135.7mV), with temps around 80c (+/- 3) during heavy usage/gaming with stock heatpipes with IC thermal paste. Those temps include both GPU (stock clock) and CPU. I still get some random hiccups, but supposedly it's the crappy firmware the Samsung 960 pro's shipped with (supposedly Samsung will have a fix for it next month).
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Damn! That must have hurt. Was your 1080 GTX running on stock speeds?
By the way; Welcome to the forum
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Yeah.. I died a little inside when that happened. No overclocking but was having temperature spikes with the cpu and GPU was hitting 80 while gaming at normal clocks with max fans. I should of went to a different reseller and spent the extra money there. My reseller said sorry this usually doesn't happen and we will get back to you. They didn't care about my situation at all...
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This is my worry. I have an extended warranty, but when my GTX1080 goes poof-- how willing will they be to replace it? Since I repasted it would they just blame me? My card had a glued black cardboard shroud around the GPU die. When cleaning the excess factory thermal paste, my ISO melted the glue and I had to remove the shroud. Did I void my warranty?
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I have a single GTX 1080, 80c at max fan speed normal?
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Cant speak for single GPU cause i have dual. On Dual 80c during game play on heavy games is actually pretty cool. I get about 85c in really heavy games. -
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During gaming i was getting clock speeds between 1557 MHz and 1771 MHz. Stayed more towards 1557 MHz due to not playing a gpu intensive game. Benchmarks i was getting 82C to 86C and a clock speeds of 1771 MHz.
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I'm seeing well over 1900mhz while staying below 80C on my single 1080. Just finished a 3 hour long session of Witcher 3 at max settings minus hairworks and my average CPU temp was in the mid 50C range and the max GPU temp was 71C according to HWMonitor. Everything at stock / default settings.
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I'll take a look around this thread as welkl, curious how they do in daily work
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On default settings the thing runs very cool and the fans rarely ramp up to an audible level. My U3 cooler with NF-F12s is louder. Everything is very responsive and aside from some small hiccups related to my 960 EVO and my undervolts not sticking everything is better than I expected.raz8020, hmscott, Georgel and 1 other person like this.
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What software did you use to make the undervolts stick?
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I eventually just gave up. I'm going to wait for the PREMA BIOS to try again.Dc_79 likes this.
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I do have a question some of you knowledgeable people might be able to help with, I've had trouble attempting to set a fan curve for the new machine, and to also configure the lighting in the keyboard, is there any programs or utilities I might be missing to have access to both of these?
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If you go to the driver page on the Sager website you should see the clevo control center software. That's what you'll need to set a fan profile and control the keyboard lighting.
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If you use Throttlestop, just add it to your Windows startup and it will make sure undervolt gets applied on start.bennyg likes this. -
Thanks
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John@OBSIDIAN-PC Company Representative
By the way, since TS uses Administrator elevation the best way to add it to startup is by creating a Schedule Task:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/page-454#post-10247294
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wanted to ask, 870tm comes with fan software control from clevo just like the 870DM1/2/3 right?
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I have yet to use it to change anything. I find that the auto setting is quiet enough and will ramp up the fans when needed.
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Who said that?
Well, good luck with the thermals. I'll be surprised if they managed to pull it off. I'd even laugh at those fools who said to me that a 1080ti is not possible in laptops.
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You need to buy from Prema partner.
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Ah. I know I read somewhere in this forum that there is no Prema Bios for the TM1 yet. Can't seem to find it now. Oh well.Vasudev likes this.
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Anyone see these? More in the link below. Would these be supported by the new laptop?
http://www.gskill.com/en/press/view/g-skill-announces-world’s-fastest-ddr4-so-dimm-at-4000mhz-cl18-18-18-38-32gb--4x8gb-
Q1 2018
http://gskill.com/img/pr/2017.12.20_sodimm_4000mhz_4x8gb/03.aida64.report.png
http://gskill.com/img/pr/2017.12.20_sodimm_4000mhz_4x8gb/02.test.report.png
Significantly lower tRFC than Corsair's in addition to the primary timings with the same voltage.hmscott likes this. -
clevo-extreme Company Representative
Dont work with Stock bios
max 3200MHz
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How many MHz?
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I mean it's 3800MHz Corsair ram who run 3460MHz.
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clevo-extreme Company Representative
Stock?
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Yes , @Johnksss got it working 3460Mhz on stock BIOS.ole!!!, Johnksss, temp00876 and 1 other person like this.
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That is correct. So you could look at it like the silicon lottery.....
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for the cpu part, wouldnt we be looking at the actual power limit rather than ghz? something similar to that of 570wm which was set really low.
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In the example it's just to say....You won't get full speed for the price you pay to put it into a laptop.Last edited: Dec 22, 2017Papusan likes this.
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