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Hey,
have you guys tried to repast the cpu and gpu? Because I can't figure out how to loosen the springed screws (with the numbers engraved next to them).

 

You need a Philips screw driver to rotate them anti clockwise. Be careful not to strip the screw and get a bit that fits nicely.

 

Hello all!
Can anybody upload vBios 86.04.6E.00.0A or 86.04.6E.00.09 for Nvidia 1070 please ??
You can use this tool for vBios backup.
Thank you

 

Hi all!
Can anyone tell me the difference between the PA71ES-G and PA71EP6-G?
I was looking at the PA71EP6-G with 8750h and gtx 1070, is this laptop good?
Is the cooling good enough tco cool these components down?
Are there any negative drawbacks which make it a risky purchase?
Are both the CPU and GPU bga?
Thank you

 

Gtx1060 vs gtx1070. Both soldered yes.

 

If you're using it primarily for gaming, it'll run hot, and the Aluminum alloy body can get uncomfortable for some (esp in the top-left corner, where the GPU is). I bought the 71ES-G as a budget graphic design workhorse, with the ability to game occasionally, and I love it for that. The 17" IPS display is decent (could do with better aRGB coverage), speakers are passable, and the keyboard is springy. I regularly run multiple Adobe programs at once (incl. Premiere + After Effects), and the machine barely breaks a sweat...but then again, these are very RAM dependent, and the GPU isn't much of a factor. The 6-core 8750H + 1070 is as much power as I would stuff into the 'thin + light' chassis, as the thermal issues are pretty prevalent across the board, and anything bigger would kind of defeat the purpose.

If you're on a budget, are somewhat of a minimalist, like something that's self-serviceable, and want the option to deal directly with 3rd party resellers who would be potentially fixing your machine in the event of a big issue, then it's a good buy. If you have $ to burn, want the name-brand recognition, and lots of bells + whistles that come with expensive big brand machines, then spend a little more and get what you want.

 

Laptop: 6.8 lbs (3.08kg)
PSU: 16.5cm x 8cm x 3cm = 1.9lbs (.8kg)
Total: 8.7lbs (3.9kg)

I can snugly fit the laptop + my external graphics tablet monitor (Huion Kamvas GT156HD v2) together into my 17" laptop sleeve, FWIW.

Please see my review + read the review thread; it's all dependent on your repaste setup. "Cool" is relative, but an LM paste will keep things in a reasonable temp range:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-evoc-pa71es-g-review.817866/

There is no custom Prema BIOS for this model at the time of writing, nor do I believe there will be one in the future.

 

Many thanks for your indepth review. Much appreciated! Does the laptop suffer from CPU thermal throtteling? I am asking because the CineBench Multiscore I see in the pictures ks quite low for an 8750h. E.g. the Clevo 955 and the Schenker Neo are both hitting around 1100 points. Even after several runs.

 

A concern I have. The TONGFANG GK5CN6Z which also a very thin aluminum body laptop uses the i7-8750H hits around 1200+ CineBench

Does the PA71 still have thermal problems even when repasted?

 

I have the PA71ES-G and had it repasted with liquid metal. My CPU temperatures with an ambient room temperature of 23C when I played the Battlefield 5 Open Beta reached 90C. The GPU was a better in the high 70s/low 80s. But there's no thermal throttling. Also, I will mention that I have it undervolted by -0.125V using the Control Station app that uses Intel XTU.

I think that's the most I've stressed this laptop. Hope this helps

 

A bit thanks. Looking at the Laptops with the best handling of the i7-8750H.

 

What do you intend to use it for?

 

Well the notion is to use it for some gaming but with a lean towards content creation with some writing and media editing.

 

anyone tried using linux in this machine. I'm comparing pa950ep6 with with pa71ep6-g.

 

Having the ability in the 17 inch to turn off optimus will help with linux.

 

Many thanks for your feedback. What thermal paste do you use and is it possible to run a couple of CineBench sessions to stress test the CPU. Quite interested in the results you are getting. Thanks in advance!

 

Don't know if it helps you, but I have the PA71HS-G (7820HK + 1070) and max out at 78C on the cinebench runs with no throttling of any kind. I have an undervolt of 110mv, liquid metal, and smallish overclock of 39x when all cores are used. Also, I bought some laptop feet off of amazon that raises up the back...seems to help a bit with airflow. Lastly, I highly recommend using Obsidian's Control Station for your laptop. The fan control alone is worth the price of admission and the whole package is WAY lighter than the Clevo Control Center.

 

I have the PA71ES-G with the 8750H, -150mV undervolt, Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut Liquid Metal and raise the back by roughly 1-inch when I play games/ do heavy tasks and I have similar results during 10 C R15 runs. It doesn't really go over 80C. I use the default CCC and am thinking of buying the Obsidian Fan Control.

Speaking of, @RogSmitty is the max fan speed of OFC (Extreme Mode) more than that of CCC (80%)?

 

Thanks! But what kind of score are you getting when running CineBench a couple of times in a row?
The OP hits below 1000 points which is very much of a surprise for me (taking into account that e.g. the thinner thongfang/neo hits over 1100 consistently)

 

Same here. I am planning to buy a new Fujifilm X-T3 which records 4k HEVC 10bit All-I 400Mbits

This content will be edited in Premiere Pro, hence I need a laptop which can continuously hit max performance without too much throtteling or overheating. Even if the laptop is rendering for 1-2 hours in a row.

In addition to that I will of course us it for gaming… but that's not thw core purpose.

Lastly, I will be doing some heavy 3d rendering with Cinema 4d.
As we all know, Cinema 4d heavily depends on the laptop's CPU and might run for hours in a row.

 

From what Obsidian has advertised in the past, yes. Control station has the full range of fan usage. I’ll double check with extreme mode, but there is a fail safe that is adjustable based on temp that will set the fans to 100% regardless of the mode.


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This is what I use it for, and it performs admirably. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to game much at all on it due to my workload in the past couple months.

I am as well, seeing as how I don't have proper means to reinstall OS at the moment, which is what I suspect may be causing lower bench scores than it's similar counterparts.

 

Im getting a 1268 on the first run. And it gradually lowers by 15-20 points each consecutive runs. I've only done like 4-5 of them.

 

That's pretty normal for the 8750 slowing down a bit on consecutive runs.

 

Just ran one and got 1104

Seeing as how all my benches seem to be a little bit below the average for this chassis + config, I'm really wondering if the OS reinstall will sort things out and fix whatever niggling CPU problems I'm having that seem to be holding something back. I do not have CCC installed anymore, but I did a bunch of tweaking via Phoenix tweaks before I ran everything, so I wonder if I screwed something up a little during that process.

Have you ran any GPU benches yet?

 

I'm currently using CCC and have the Phoenix tweaks as well as an undervolt of -125mV. And whenever I stress test, I set the fans to max speed

 

Have you charted it with throttle reasons in XTU?

 

Can anyone guide me on how to disable wake on lid open on this laptop?

I have set "Choose what happens on lid close" to "Do nothing" on both Battery and Plugged-in in Power Options. A solution I got when I searched for it was to go to Device Manager > System Devices > ACPI Lid > Power Management > Uncheck "Allow this device to wake the computer" but I have no such Power Management tab there.

 

Here is aida 64 and heaven benchmark at the same time

 

Sorry, missed this question. I have not, but will look into it.

Still annoys me that neither XTU (or CCC) read my real-time CPU values even though HWinfo can, leads me to think there is possibly a driver issue or some config setting I made after my fresh OS install (way back in June) that is holding everything back. Until I have a backup PC to use while I reformat this one, I doubt I'll be able to pinpoint the issue.

 

Have you re-installed xtu or tried one version back?

 

Brand new owner of a PA71ES-G and having some issues.

Windows won't show 144hz as an option at all. With HybridMS mode, it shows 60hz. With 1070 as the main GPU it shows 75hz. Nothing else. Can't get it to run 144hz. Is there something wrong with my screen/laptop? Has anyone else run into this problem?

And with the laptop sitting on a desk, not angled up from it I guess its fair that the CPU throttles due to heat?
If the 144hz thingie is a defect in the laptop I'm prolly just gonna return it and buy something else.

 

Update: Talked with a brother of a friend who has the same laptop. He's got 144hz running without issues. Windows set 144hz as standard refreshrate after he installed windows and the drivers. So taking a big educated guess that my screen is not working, or is the wrong SKU.
Already emailed the company asking for support/advice. Prolly just end up returning it if they can't do anything about it.

 

Check a program like hwinfo to get the panel model.

 

The sticker underneath says PA71ES-G. But HWInfo and other hardware readers says its a PA70ES.
Which is really really odd. The thermals are also really getting to me. Always runs super hot 90+ C on the CPU. Playing F76 with CPU @ 25% utilization, and GPU @ 50-60% utilization.
GPU starts around 60c and creeps up and over 70, which is okay. But I really dont like the heat on the CPU. Even though its a 8750H.

 

The 1 or 0 is a cosmetic choice on the case while the motherboard etc is identical so logically they report the same.

 

The 8750H is a monster that needs to be tamed. It cannot just be run straight out of the box, it needs to be tuned. Watch this clip about how to use ThrottleStop to do just that.

Edit: I guess this isn't a YouTube-friendly forum, so just search for the channel 'bobofalltrades' the video title is: 'Address that HOT i7 8750h!'

Then go and purchase a Clevo Fan Control software that Obsidian-PC has in active development. It's worth every penny.

https://code.obsidian-pc.com/clevo-software/fan-control/

These two software packages are must-haves if you own a PA71ES-G. Otherwise, you have a hot mess on your hands.

 

Any TDP limited chip is going to enjoy tweaking.

 

Thanks for the support, by the end of this month (when we finish setting up the website with the new models and when we finish our new website portal/landing page) we will continue the development of the apps. We have a lot which we are adding, specially on Fan Control and specially for systems with shared coolers.

 

Would like to know the thermal result of i7 8750h after undervolting
anyone out there?

 

Every chip is going to be different.

 

I have LM applied with a -135mV undervolt applied.
While playing BFV, my temps are 85C (90C peak). No thermal throttling. I will mention my exhausts are in thorough need of cleaning. The last time I did temps dropped noticeably to 80-85C avg.

 

Just curious why so few people seem to have this model? The pb71 is shaping up to be the cheapest gsync laptop that I can get with a 2070, are there major concerns about this chassis or a better option for gsync in this price range?

 

Odd timing and the old 17 inch thin and light also had the switch.

 

can it hold 3.9ghz without thermal throttling?
can i see your throttlestop settings i did both liquid metal and thick thermal compound so far kryonaught is working better
my chasis can hold 3.0 ghz in all core without throttling

 

It does hold 3.91GHz but like I said, since I didn't clean for a while it drops to 3.5 sometimes then goes right back up. My CPU vent is nearly half-blocked! Though I remember when I first got it (around BFV Open Beta) it didn't thermal throttle at all and held full 3.91. Also, the 8th-gen CPUs tend to power limit throttle easily so that might be it as well.
Regarding UV, I am just using Control Station to do so (it uses Intel XTU and does the settings automatically)

 

Half blocked? Well past time for some compressed air. Only takes 2 mins

 

I was thinking if better thermal pads would work in my situation from the stock ones

 

Usually the right thickness is more important than the pad itself. So if replacing it would be to shave 0.5mm across the board (if possible) or because the stock ones are damaged.

 

One of the nice things about owning a chassis that's easily accessible for cleaning

IMO, it probably got overshadowed by bigger name brands releasing a bunch of new models around the same time, and there's just generally way fewer reviews (and marketing fanfare) for Clevo products in comparison. 17" is also kind of a weird category for a lot of people; very niche market of creators or power users who it really appeals to, but I'm also surprised that niche isn't a little bigger. For what it is, there's no way I could've gotten more bang for my buck, and the purchase satisfaction gets stronger everyday. It's a very well-balanced beauty and beast.