Awesome, thanks. How are the thermals? That’s my only concern after reading the few threads here about this model.
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Bottom line is if you're going with the thin + light form factor, there's no way around the heat; these components squeezed into small chassis = lots of energy, so any model of the same ilk will have slightly better or slightly worse temps, but there's no magic solution yet. At least not until this monster gets let out of the cage and possibly starts a new engineering (r)evolution: https://www.asus.com/us/Laptops/ROG-Mothership-GZ700/ -
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Too new and too little competition.
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So I'm thinking of buying the PB71 cuz there are good deals on it now. However even tho I know the display is a AUO B173HAN03.1, I can't seem to find anywhere the REAL response time, some websites are telling me its 25ms which is hard to believe.
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Help needed please.
Guys/gals, now it comes to summer, and temps in Europe are reaching 35c, I'm having problems with my powerspec pa71.
I live in a non air conditioned apartment. So ambient temps are in the region of 28c -30c.
I've started to get automatic shut downs while gaming. I cannot correlate the black screen shutdowns with temps, particular game or duration played.
After letting it for a few mins, and boot up again, it takes me to the bios screen and cannot identify any of my 2 nvme or hdd. I press exit and reboot, then its a normal boot to windows.
Other times it just boots to windows first time.
Gaming: cpuid hwmonitor is reporting, both the cpu and gpu temps, steady 77c with Maxes up to 84c.
Cooling: I've under volted the cpu by -110.4mV on throttle stop, and also have the obsidian pc control station, so everything is up to date. I have a 4 fan laptop cooler stand, and now have a desk fan pointed towards the back of the screen, so airflow is plentiful.
Cleaned and repasted 3 months ago, with Phobya nano grease extreme. autoshutdowns
I thought it was a dud paste, so 5 days ago I cleaned and repasted with Kryonaut. still autoshutdowns
any body else experience auto shut downs?
is it my nvme boot drive that's over heating?
I've tried to find events logger to see if the over temp triggered, but none of the events say anything abnormal.
sorry for the long winded post, but would appreciate any inputs.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Have you got the back of the unit propped up slightly?
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temporary setup,
4 fan laptop stand, standing pretty flush, only rubber feet lifting it.
rear desk fan, on low, just to get air moving towards the intake.
and spot fan, because my fingers getting toasty
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
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https://amzn.to/2JfxqIL
(though swamp coolers of any size inherently create humidity which is never beneficial for electronics, but if you live in a place with dry heat it probably wouldn't cause too much of an issue as long as it's not directly next to it)
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possibly, however, both fans vent differently. the right side exhausts to the rear and intakes from the right.
whereas the left side, exhaust to the left and intakes from the rear. so the desk fan is trying to feed the left side rear intake sorta thing.
also, thanks for the link, i was previously looking into portable a/c unit. humidity should be that big of an issue here.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Most blower fans draw in from above and below and extract out the sides. Have you used a piece of paper to see if the side is an intake (despite what marketing shots have shown).
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Hello,
I Have Sager NP8375:
What is the last version of CC 2.0 do you use for our model?
At clevo website it is 1.0. 41 and it is working correctly, but the last version which I could find 1.0.78 - it is not working properly, the loading of gpu and cpu is very high (about 30%), so the fans are very loud.... Why I want to use this version it is because fan profile can adjust it manually to 100%, instead of 1.0.41 only 80%
I will try version 1.0.75 from prostar website.
It is possible to adjust fan start for gpu? It is starting from 50% when the temperature is above 40c!!!!! It is stupid situation, I become nervous.....
Last question - it was any updates of bois for our model?
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Pop in a support ticket for the latest firmware and to confirm the software availability.
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I found the cause of the problem - it is the animation of fans spinning at main display of CCC version 1.78...
Animation is lower than in version 1.41 or earlier - so CPU and GPU are not loading high....
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Hi, can this machine pull full 3.9ghz 6core without throttling for an extended period of time?
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I didn't spring for the pads after looking into what they were and determining they were a pretty minor addition, but the LM makes a huge difference.
What is LM ??? Im a foreign boy and didnt get it, plz explain what you meant. Also i rly want to know your opinion about effective system cooling, sure you have some tricks to make clevo more quite. Plz share your expirience ). -
Meaker@Sager Company Representative
LM = Liquid metal
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Beyond a thermal compound and external fans, there's really not a lot you can do internally. Your best bet will be to make the ambient temperature of the room as cold as (comfortably) possible, since everything else is just circulating air, and that will only cool components so much.
It's funny too because it seems like all the manufacturers just keep stuffing more powerful guts inside increasingly thinner chassis', but cooling technology still hasn't taken the big leap that all the hardware has...
Considering ~80-90C during heavy load gaming sessions is still the norm for (most) notebooks, I look forward to the day when I can upgrade into powerful & portable that doesn't feel like I can cook an egg with it.tonykaluga1 likes this. -
Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Hard to take leaps forwards in physics, like batteries.
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Hi - anyone know if this laptop's GPU can be upgraded? Ive got a 1080 in PA71ES-G, which is still good, but wondering if it can do:
1660ti
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
No, it's soldered in.
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Aah thanks, I feared that. Interested to see when this class of lappy gets 3k/1440p @ 144hz or higher screen with reasonable (60FPS) RT capability. Maybe the 30xx mobile GPUs when they come out?
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Anybody have any idea where the Clevo installer is putting Control Center files? I've had 2.0 running since getting the machine since it's stable, if horribly designed, but the LED controller functionality resets itself every time after waking up since the latest Window update.
Just tried to update to the latest release on the drivers page (v.5 point whatever supposedly), and after installing, it's nowhere to be found. 2.0 is counterintuitively in a generic folder called 'hotkey', but no idea where 'v 5' has gone...Last edited: Dec 1, 2020 -
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Jeroen Nieuwenhuijzen Notebook Enthusiast
Question,
Since today I have a external monitor wich can be used with USB-C (TBT) but somehow it doesnt work on my Clevo.
My clevo recognised the USB (states USB > serial), monitor goes on but switches off after with "no signal".
I installed Thunderbolt drivers and I see in Thunderbolt the USB comming up when the screen is powering on but going away when the screen goes in standby because no signal.
I tested the screen on a macbook and it works instantly.
Also on my Samsung phone and tab it works out of the box.
Any ideas?
p.s. I did a reinstall of Windows but that didn't fix it.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
What's the display, it depends on if it does DP over usb or is DP over thunderbolt.
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Jeroen Nieuwenhuijzen Notebook Enthusiast
It's a c-force cf016xt
Hope you have enough with this info.
Edit:
Also tried over USB A 3.1 still the same, display boots but no signal.
Connected it through a USB 3.0 ducking (docking has HDMI out) and it works with the HDMI cable so Clevo > usb a 3.1 > docking > hdmi > display.
So the Clevo does send a display signal through USB. But somehow to weak signal through USB-C? Just guessing...
Tried a extra power source to display but then I get a USB not recognized message in Windows. Also this isn't what I need because I need a mobile display wich can be powered from the Clevo.Last edited: Jan 21, 2021 -
Meaker@Sager Company Representative
That screen needs display port over usb where as the laptop is DP over thunderbolt only.
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Jeroen Nieuwenhuijzen Notebook Enthusiast
So that means I need to buy another screen?
How do I know wich one will work?
And strange that is does work using a Targus ACP71eu dock though usb.
Any recommandations for a portable 15,4" in screen that will work without a power source straight to the USB-C socket of the Clevo?
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