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    *** Official Clevo PB5xExx(-G) Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by sicily428, Jan 7, 2019.

  1. AlexusR

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    Tutorials? You repaste it like every other notebook. Just remove screws from bottom cover, check for optional screws underneath the keyboard (there might be 2 screws which hold bottom cover to metal frame underneath the keyboard, but not all units will have those), remove all screws from heatsink (they are numbered so it is easy to follow, make sure to remove 4 numbered screws which hold fans in an addition to screws around GPU and CPU), disconnect fan connectors and lift up the heatsink unit. There are also some photos by @Ashlander posted in this thread but he didn't show the exact steps. He did show the screws which you need to unscrew underneath the keyboard:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...x-g-owners-lounge.826810/page-8#post-10880461
     
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  2. LanceAvion

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    He means a real-time overlay over the gameplay like this.

     
  3. Meaker@Sager

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    Max/min numbers can be misleading. So say a graph like xtu/msi afterburner do.
     
  4. AlexusR

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    Yes, there will be temperature spikes during certain part of benchmark or during the initial game loading which may not indicate the average temperatures so it may be helpful to monitor temperatures for some time. For example, with HWiNFO you can doubleclick on something like CPU or GPU temperature which would open a graph that shows temperatures over time. Something like what you can see on attached screenshot. Also, be aware that this model gets most of air from the bottom intakes so make sure to never place it on soft materials which would restrict airflow. Just keep it raised above the surface as high as you can (you can do this with passive laptop stand or just by buying a tall stick-on rubber feet in a hardware store or Amazon).
     

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    Right, "like every other notebook", which would be easy if you have ever done one before. Not the case... :D

    Your indications seems good for getting to it, not sure about the steps for how to add the new paste (and remove the old?)
     
  6. walterg74

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    Ok, and what is that, fraps or something else?
     
  7. Meaker@Sager

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    Graphs are fine with enough detail :) per core temps, loading and clocks would be good if you are worried about the CPU.
     
  8. LanceAvion

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    A combination of MSI Afterburner (most of the data) and HWInfo (Pl1 and PL2). A third program called Rivatuner actually displays the on-screen overlay, but that download is included with MSI Afterburner.
     
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  9. AlexusR

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    You can find plenty of videos on YouTube how to repaste CPU and GPU on laptops, any of those will apply to this model since you're just removing old paste with acetone or alcohol and applying a new one. There is no specific video which shows how to do this for this specific model since nobody has bothered to make one.

    Also, if you're afraid to do this personally because you have never done this and don't want to risk breaking anything - you can just find a local PC repair shop or a friend who has done this and ask them do this for you.
     
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    Does this chassis support Windows Hello with the camera?
     
  11. Mender

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    Wouldn't doing a repaste void the warranty?
     
  12. Meaker@Sager

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    Check with your reseller if you are unsure.
     
  13. Mender

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    I've not purchased yet. What's your policy if ordered directly from Sager, or a reseller that just redirects to you for service?
     
  14. Meaker@Sager

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    As per our warranty page damage caused by doing a repaste ,(you knocked a thermal pad and a vrm blew up because it was not cooled or your paste was conductive and shorted it) would not be covered. If you repasted properly then no.
     
  15. walterg74

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    I’ve been looking for a lot of videos/tutorials and the vast majority seems to recommend to do just the dot/pea method..?
     
  16. walterg74

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    After seeing a picture from another user showing how he got drivers on USB, I need to ask: did anyone that purchased their 1520 at Microcenter also receive this ISB drive with drivers? (Or any media type with drivers?).
     
  17. Meaker@Sager

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    On the larger GPU die it can be really hard to get the right size, the X method while leaving a little excess usually is friendlier to the less experienced. The CPU should be a thin line due to the shape.
     
  18. walterg74

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    Got it, so while what they say is usually true, the line and cross is better for this particular case simply because of the processors shapes?
     
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    Exactly, you are looking for the best spread pattern with as little paste ideally.
     
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    Hi everyone, I'm interested in buying the vortex IX from Pcspecialist here in the UK. They offer a thermal paste upgrade so I'm hoping they apply it well, as they are very reputable here. My question is, although it's been proved to be a powerhouse with gaming, what are its stats regarding video/music production? Lack of thunderbolt sucks from a music standpoint, but can this system roll with those demands? I'm looking at an i7 9750H, 16GB 2666MHz (2x8GB) and an rtx 2060.
    Any help appreciated and this thread has been incredibly informative towards my potential purchase and for that I thank you all!
     
  21. TheUberMedic

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    Actually, the vortex does have thunderbolt
     
  22. Meaker@Sager

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    In terms if raw horsepower it's certainly not lacking for media editing.
     
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    I'm just going off what the website is saying.
    It's listed as: 1 x USB 3.1 PORT (TYPE C) + 2 USB 3.0 Ports + 1 USB 2.0 PORT.
     
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    Ah are you only looking at the configurator? If you look at specifications tab and go down to usb, it says "1 x Thunderbolt 3 Port, 3 x USB 3.1 Gen1 Ports"
     
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    I am very happy to be wrong, if this is the case haha
     
  26. Meaker@Sager

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    You can always give the reseller a call to be sure.
     
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    FB85DA4C-7CC8-496C-A33C-31237ADCAAC3.jpeg While I have it open, installing an extra 16Gb and I have a standard 2.5” HDD. But the HDD does not seem to fit correctly. WTF???

    Help?
     
  28. Ashlander

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    You need to unscrew the HDD PCB, plug it into the drive, then put it all down together.
     
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    Thanks, I will try this now.
     
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    64830EAE-CA77-4DBD-AD12-65AD9DC5571B.jpeg 4283F7DD-10A6-47E6-BED5-BBF501BAFEF0.jpeg Doing the repaste now...

    First time ever I do one on any computer.

    Since nobody had taken pics, I though I would share with you what I found inside... It was not nice... This is the 1520 from MC.
     
  31. walterg74

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    I must be doing something wrong...

    While I managed to plug it before I decided to try unscrewing like you said but it makes no difference. If I go to screw it again it seems forced and tensioned and definitely not right...
     

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    @walterg74 Yeah, that seems typical of the OEM factory paste. The compound usually looks like a prefabricated strip.

    Which drive is it (make/model)?
     
  33. Meaker@Sager

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    I agree the drive looks too thick.
     
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    WD Black 7200
     

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    So... it does not support regular 2.5” notebook HDDs?
     
  36. Meaker@Sager

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    7mm only if you check the spec page or the manual I'm afraid.
     
  37. Prostar Computer

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    2.5" drives come in varying heights. Yours looks too thick unfortunately.
     
  38. walterg74

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    Yeah, I’m afraid I did not get any manual here...

    Oh well, guess I will have to pass this hdd on to someone else and get a proper one or an ssd.
     
  39. walterg74

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    I did not even think about it, though it would just fit... :(
     
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    Ok I get the “looks typical” part (looks like a really bad job overflowing...)

    What do you mean with “the compound usually looks like a prefabricated strip”?
     
  41. Meaker@Sager

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    See how the paste on the heatsink is perfectly rectangular? That's the sign it was put there by machine.
     
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    You could use it externally, but yeah, anything internal is limited to 5mm or 7mm.
    What Meaker said. If you were to see the compound before the laptop gets used, it's flattened and perfectly shaped to the die, not a line or blob pumped out of a syringe.
     
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    So... since some of die has no paste, did the machine “slip”..? (also with that much paste I take it was not calibrated all that well in regards to amount?
     
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    Got it.

    I just did mine as recommended, Line for cpu and cross for gpu, but tried a few games and I still see the 90s/high 90s mark as peak...

    I know this is just a peak and the average is still pretty OK, but:

    1: what can I use to graph out the temperature over time?

    2: besides having done this re-paste, what else can I try to maintain the temperatures at a better level?
     
  45. Meaker@Sager

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    MSI afterburner can graph over time.

    Thermal pad adjustment is something you can look at using 0.5mm and 1mm pads to replace all but the thickest pads. It looks like some uneven pressure is going on if you look how one end of a pad has deep impression marks but the other side looks clean.
     
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    1: XTU, HWInfo, MSI Afterburner all have graphs

    2: Undervolting can lower the temps alot with no risk.My undervolt lowers the temps more than the actual repaste does. Use XTU or Throttlstop, preferably Throttlestop.
     
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    @walterg74 - Either Meaker has more free time than I do, or he's got faster fingers (maybe both) since he keeps beating me to your questions. ;)

    Yep, undervolting and replacing thermal pads can make a difference. And of course, try to keep the system on a hard, flat surface, slightly elevated (about an inch). It's not ideal, but remember you can also max the fan speed with FN and 1 (on the number row).

    It sounds like you're doing the repaste right, so I'd start looking at those other suggestions for improvement.
     
  48. Galm

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    Has there been much discussion about the airflow on these machines?

    I was playing with one that overheated into thermal throttling at stock. But then propping up the back dropped the temps by like 12C (From peaking above 97C down to mid 80s). It seems like the rubber feet completely block airflow from the back and sides and the front is extremely low clearance.

    Besides getting a laptop stand I kind of wonder if cutting out the middle of the feet could help drop temps. Because I've never seen a laptop have a difference this large when using a cooling pad, it's normally only a couple degrees.
     
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    I've thought about that, but I'm not too keen on causing damage a brand new expensive laptop. You really only need to lift it up a few mm or a 1/4 inch or so. I wonder if there's some sort of hard rubberized tube or something that's the proper size, that we could measure, cut, and put into the rear screw holes to hold the back up. Something like the blue in the image I attached.
     

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    What are people using for the power profile and gpu overclocking profile? Does that “help”?
     
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