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Was getting too impatient. Finally ordered one of these tonight. Almost went with the legion y740 2080max q but it would’ve been 300-400 more expensive.
Very nice!
Since the Lenovo Y740 2080MQ slightly underperforms compared to others with the same GPU ( 80W version ) it’s making me wonder if the full 2070 will perform better.
I’m guessing it’ll probably be equal or pretty close to it.
Congrats man and hopefully you get it soon and shows how good or bad the cooling is for this laptop.
The best thing about the Lenovo is it runs very cool and has very low fan noise when gaming.
Hopefully this is the same especially with the low fan noise. I really hate loud laptops.
Yeah, the 2080MQ of the Lenovo will probably underperform the full 2070. Ultimately I would've bought it just because it runs really cool. the 2070MQ is really fairly priced but ultimately a 2070MQ is basically equivalent to a 1070 last gen, which just doesn't excite me. If I could've gotten that laptop for the same price as this, I would've chosen that one due to the fact that I know it runs cool, and also this model being a huge question mark with zero reviews.
I'll definitely post my impressions, but it won't ship for ~5 days and I got the ground shipping, so it will be a while.
You can see the laptop is actually thicker, and they added this section (which does not appear to be a copy/paste from last year)
Improved Cooling Design Always cool under pressure. NP8371 rapidly sheds heat and maintains optimal performance. More heat pipes drive heat away from the CPU and GPU faster, and a new cooling fan design uses more blades to dramatically increase the air flow volume.
Yes dual channel gives better performance, you could put an 8gb in there for now (if you already have it) just fine and get 16gb dual channel and 8gb single channel.
You guys gotta share benchmarks and thermals once you get these laptops. Decided I don't care about gsync so I'm deciding between getting one of these or a cheaper tongfang model
Honestly I think it's only good if you care about synced frames more than input latency. I find that at higher fps there's little to no stuttering/tearing anyways, and that's at 60/84hz. I'm sure at 144hz it's even better. I noticed I've always preferred vsync off even in games that I can easily max out, mostly cause I play mainly multiplayer games. Just feels more responsive. Reading through Reddit threads where people have spent hours trying to tweak gsync to find the sweet spot everyone is so hyped about at least half of those users ended up just switching back to no gsync and prefer just using no sync so I guess it depends on how adverse you are to tearing. If you look at the actual data no matter what syncing technology you use, you're introducing almost twice as much input lag, fast sync being the only one that that doesn't introduce that much input latency (if you're machine can output enough fps) so that'd be the only one I'd use anyways.
I’ve also heard that 144hz screens screen tearing is less noticeable, I’m not a competitive gamer or anything but screen tearing does bother me.
I’m just trying to convince myself it’s not needed because it crosses a lot of laptops of my list.
So a RTX 2070 with no GSync screen should be ok as long as the screen response time is good?
I don’t know man, maybe GSync has me spoiled but I feel it’s one of the best things to happen for screens in a long time,
I’m just a little hesitant and unsure how good/bad a fast 144hz screen handles screen tearing, if I’m spending this much on a laptop I want to be sure I’m OK with that.
Pretty much it. If tearing bothers you, use fast sync for games that your laptop overpushes easily, vsync if you're noticing tearing at cap and if it's a game that you can push fps past double 144 and turn down settings a bit if you can't get good fps. If you like playing very hard to run games at very punishing settings and don't care about responsiveness then gsync is your best friend. Gsync also has less latency than vsync so what some ppl do is set fps limit to 141 (for 144hz screens) and turn on vsync + gsync. Which supposedly looks slightly better than just pure vsync.
Tldr if you like vsync in games right now, you might love gsync. If you prefer vsync off on games as things are already, you might not love gsync as much as you think you would.
I mean I mind, I just don't like the slightly less responsive feeling that comes with most syncing technologies. Goal is to be able to run games fast enough to use with fast sync.
Seems, XMG has claimed their hands on the
PB7xEx series finally with Rtx2070, yet they don't offer QHD or 4K and the price is quite high compared to other boutiques as well. Seems, I will be waiting for the 8 core Intels and especially one with a 3K/4K panel. It's a no from me dawg..
Cancelled my Area 51m and went with a PB71EF-G for $1100 less
Got it from HIDevolution and got their best cooling package (Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut and Fujipoly Extreme Thermal Pads)
Let me know what benches you want to see, and when it gets here I'll post some numbers
I did. Just about to do a little write up on it. I havn't tested the performance yet. Ran into a hiccup with my windows activation so I've been on the phone sorting that out.
Does the 17 inch model also require the keyboard being removed to access everything? Not a fan of unnecessarily difficult disassembly to access key components.
I would assume it does. It's not difficult, just another step. You just need to know to do it. Otherwise your stuck wondering why the panel won't come off.
Has anyone been able to confirm the battery life on these? I saw 350 minutes earlier in the thread but sites like xoticpc say "3+ hours". Does it have a BIOS or software switch for using the intel GPU?
As someone who usually goes for workstations I'm really happy that they are releasing more "professional" looking laptops.
Does anyone know whether thisPB71XX series will support Intel 9th gen 8 core cpus out of the box or a new model is required ? Also, do you know any reseller in Europe that provides this laptop with a 4k panel option?
What I meant was if PB71XX series can accommodate 9th gen. Intel cpus without a redesign or does Clevo need to come up with a new mobo and a new model?
I'm looking to replace a NP8678-S. Except for the power connector going bad and bits of plastic falling off it, its served well. The NP8371 seems to be the closest replacement. I'm looking at the NP8371, NP9176 and NP8973 though - those seem to be the current 17" options.
The 9176 looks excessive for what I need. Regarding the other two. Is there any difference in build quality? Will the 8973 run cooler and/or quieter (or hotter/louder?) than the 8371? Does it flex more than the 8371? How do this generation's builds compare to the ones from 3 years ago?
Notebookcheck did a nice comparison between the Asus and MSI offerings in this segment, wish they'd included one of the Sager's too. There's a lack of good reviews out there.
They are both very new, my 8971 hasn't yet arrived. But for me main factor for my decision was the 8973 doen't have GSYNC and the 8971 does.
Also, when I was looking through the Clevo website I could tell the 8973 casing is used in previous models but the 8971 casing seems new for this model.
That's tough to say, they shouldn't need to be more than just ddr4, etc. I would just make sure to buy from somewhere where replacements and returns are easy just in case they don't work (like Amazon or a local store).
When you guys get your laptops could we get 3d mark, UserBenchmark CPU and GPU (
https://www.userbenchmark.com), geekbench, thermal, battery and noise tests?
Those are what I'm looking forward to the most, and can easily be compared to other laptops since they're common benchmarks.
Been waiting ages to see some reviews or tests on this model, can't wait to see what results your results or writeups.
I’m happy to provide as much information as possible. I suspect my benchmarks won’t immediately be great because it’s only a single stick of ram, I’m not getting a second until I’m sure I’m keeping the laptop (will mostly be dependent on heat/fan noise)
Heat and noise is my primary concern cause those Intel 8750h CPUs like to run hotttt. If it's not much better than other laptops I'll probably grab something cheaper like a tongfang chassis. See if you can give us your impression of gsync without biasing too much towards it cause of buyer's guilt/justification haha
Yes, heat and noise are important. Make sure to try out Obsidian-PC app from John, it should be good replacement for Clevo Control Center to adjust fan speeds, you can find it in main Sager/Clevo forum section.
The fan noise isnt too bad imo. I also tried the Obsidian apps, but their keyboard LED app doesn't work on these because their app doesn't support per-key. I might still use the their control center app though as it seemed pretty good.
Build quality is great. Feels very solid. This is the 15" version, but the 17 should be about the same. I didn't have any flex in the chassis, a bit probably in the screen but not enough to bother me. I like the glass touchpad, but sometimes my fingertips are sweaty or something and don't glide across it as well.
In basic use you cant even hear it. I just kicked the fans to 100% to see how they sounded at max. They were loud, but I dont think any louder than any other laptop I've had. They're not high pitched either so that helps. As for actual gaming, I had to RMA mine due to a failed mobo so I didn't get a chance to test gaming behavior yet. I'm sure it's an isolated incident so don't want that to scare people away. Waiting on the replacement from Sager. That issue aside though, overall I'm very happy with this model so far.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
