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There is no spread spectrum with the PremaMod, it's fixed to 100Mhz by default unless you choose another profile manually.

Stock BIOS let's you loose 0.5Mhz per 100Mhz and hence runs 4.5Ghz @ around 4477Mz or in your case 4677Mhz effectively.

There will still be minor fluctions, that's normal. If you want a solid result for cpu-z, just run it two three times in a row.
You can also overclock the BCLK a bit if you want it to be constantly above the 100Mhz.

 

4695 just seems weird for me when stock bios runs 4700 constantly

 

Read it again...stock BIOS if set to 4700Mhz runs at roughly 4677Mhz effectively, while yours jumps around 4700Mhz plus minus 5Mhz or 0.1%. Apart from that stock won't even hold those clocks for long under real load and throttle down a few hundred Mhz on top of not even actually reaching the set clocks...

 

So I just got this laptop in the mail today. I have a Sager from 2012 and have loved it. I'm considering this one for replacement. My only real question is concerning the heat between a 17" and this 15" option.

Will a 15" laptop have issues with heat that much faster than on a 17" these days?

 

Finally got my EVOC P750TM1-G in the mail today! Anyone know if @Phoenix is still blessing us with tweaks? Thanks.

 

PM sent

 

@Phoenix if you have tweaks holler at me too. mine came in the mail today!

 

Congrats man, I only tweak HIDevolution Gaming Team Members due to time constraints.

You can however refer to my guides below which has most of it covered:

NBR Windows 10 Clean Installation Guide
Windows 10 Tweaks and Fixes (Index post #1)
O&O ShutUp10 - Do not use Windows 10 without it!
Macrium Reflect Installation/Usage Guide

 

Hi guys,
if I correctly understood the CLEVO of this thread is another way to call the SKENKER in the "DTR" version. Correct?

What I'm looking for is a config that is be able to manage my Sony A7r mark3 files raw (42mpx) through Lightroom and photoshop and furthermore some spot
edit of 4k video (through Premiere).

I'm seeing Skenker and XMG in the mysn.de in many configurations and variations.

They are famous to propose 6 cores desktop cpu (like 8700) in the notebook chassis. I've seen in this DTR variant they give also the choice of "delidded" CPU that I think should be the best choice to minimize the temperature under load and to be sure to keep for a long time the "higher" possible frequency.
My doubt is to choose them or if it's better to wait for the last mobile i9 with the 6 cores...

Another point to focus my choice should be the weight. The "optimal" should be to rest within the 3kg. I gave a look to many variations proposed in the mysn site but at the end I arrive to the DTR variant as the "best". I can give up to the monitor (15.6 instead of 17) but I would like to keep: 4 x16gb ram slot (I already own 4 x 16 of g.skill 2666 and I think it should be useful to use them with a 6 cores cpu...)
About GPU...I think it's "enough" the GTX 1060. I'd also like to keep the audio DAC SAbre for high resolution output (I'm an audiophile and I would appreciate a good audio unit...).
And finally one thunderbolt port...
Basically I found only the DTR could satisfy everything (except the weight that is 3.4) or I miss some other options you could suggest?
Another thing I noticed is that almost the configurations proposed ot that site have battery that are tipically undersized compare with the cpu power request...no?

Thanks in advance for your advice.

ciao!

 

The desktop chips will outperform any mobile chip.

 

I want to give a big thank you to @Phoenix who gave my new evoc p750tm-g a great tweaking session, gave me a lot of advice and taught me a lot about windows 10 and internet safety.

I am having an audio problem though which I thought I would ask about here as I haven't been able to find a solution after searching and troubleshooting. There is a terrible echo when playing any type of audio from the speakers or headphones. Has anyone had this issue before?

 

Disable all of your recording devices, does it go away?

 

I recently purchased the clevo p750tm-1 with an i5 8400 and GTX 1070 as well as the 144hz gsync panel from Ava direct. I de-lidded the CPU and used conductonaut with the copper IHS from Rocket as well as kryonaut on the gpu my temps on the cpu are 81c and 90c on the gpu with ambient temps around 72f while gaming with high frame rates. I thought temps would be better.

Yes, I am well aware I have full desktop components in a laptop. The temps don’t necessarily scare me but should I be seeing better temps? Could the copper IHS be causing issues? This isn’t my first time delidding, as I have been doing it since the days of my 4770k and so on. Is there any upgrades I can make to the cooling solution?

This laptop is insane by the way! And runs max settings flawlessly!

 

might be insufficient contact between ihs/die or ihs/heatsink.

also, have you undervolted your cpu? UV makes the biggest difference in temps in a laptop, even more than lapping, thermal paste, delidding, etc.

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Could be the copper IHS on the 8400. I’ll try the original IHS again

 

be sure to check (and maybe take pics) of the thermal paste spread when taking off the heatsink and ihs...

 

To me, it seems as your temps are within order. I was having the same temps. Though I have the bigger brother.

 

I just ordered a 751TM with i7-8700 and 1060GTX from a reseller in sweden. Been away from Clevo for a few months but missed the tinkering and this helpful forum. So now the Lenovo will be passed on to my daughter...

 

Since you intend to tinker, any reason for going with the non-k CPU?

 

Fixed my problem. Reapplied conductonaut and reattached the rocket copper IHS to the 8400 with kryonaut on top. Cpu temps dropped 30c and gpu temps dropped 10c. 60c and 80c respectively while gaming and stress/benchmarks

 

That sounds like a much better result, it must not have been making good contact before.

 

Hello, after 3 years I'am looking for a replacment for my Clevo P751zm. I'am still in "reading about everything" process but I think i may end up with similiar model I already have. What temps should i except with i7-8700 and GTX 1070? I will try getting it delidded, lapped and thermal grizzly pasted. What are the main differences to older models with this one?

 

Current limit throttling on an 8400 in Clevo p750tm-g? Set core iccmax in cry to 60amps and it goes away? What gives?

 

What was it running at before?

 

40amps. Actually need 81amps not 60 to avoid throttling

 

And what speed does 81 amps maintain and what did 40 amps maintain?

 

81 amps maintains max cpu clock and 40 fluctuates all over the place. I even noticed a difference in heaven benchmark

 

Ok, not too surprising then as a stock 8400 is never going to maintain max turbo on all 6 cores.

 

Awesome system when it works well. But you need to tweak though.

 

I'm enjoying mine a lot. I love being back into a desktop cpu notebook. Makes video encoding much faster. I was prepared for super hot running cpu but runs much better than expected. I haven't really put it through it's paces but I've done some undervolting and overclocking and benchmarking.

I cannot believe how quiet these models are with max fans. Maybe I'm just used to my Aorus which was super loud on max fans, and tended to run hotter since it was slim. That was a great laptop though, never had any issues out of it for a year and it was a newegg "refurb" that looked brand spanking new.

 

Same here. I was surprised how quiet max fans is on this model. Max isn't much louder than auto fans at the highest RPM, and it's quieter than max fans on my previous P650SG. What's far more obnoxious to me than the volume, is the type of fan noise on this machine. The cyclical pulsing/whirring at high speeds and when spinning/up down is really annoying to my ears, almost like two people singing out of tune.

 

That is interesting, I like the low pitched sound here more than the high pitched sound of some models like my Aorus. I agree about the up and down though at least in the "quiet" mode, it is worse than just setting to auto and staying constant. My Aorus was great in quiet mode, either completely silent or very slow fan.

I just sold a P870Dm and that thing was even quieter on max fans and was even better cooling in that larger chassis with the lower hardware.

 

Right. However, I shouldnt be current throttling, which is choking the system. It’s noticeable with micro stuttering in heaven benchmark and while gaming slightly. Once I up the current limit to 81amps it all goes away and the setup screams. How do I get settings to stick on boot with intel xtu?

 

Why not just change it in the BIOS?

 

It’s the standard clevo bios. That option isn’t there.

 

Should be in the stock BIOS under the advanced>overclocking performance menu and custom VR setting.

 

Nope. I have P750tm1-g from Ava direct.

I’m guessing I’m screwed because I bought from Ava direct and don’t have a prema bios?

 

No, those settings are supposed to be in the stock BIOS.

 

I have no options other than some basic ami bios options. Boot options, clevo’s option for enabling over clocking the gpu, thunderbolt enable or disable, some security stuff, and that’s it. I have the p750tm1-g from Ava direct.

 

What option would You guys recommend me if I know I won't delid the CPU? Is there a compromise for power/heat with one model of processor? Liquid metal will be used. Or in this case it is better to look for something with mobile CPU?

 

Can you take a picture of your Main and Advanced menus?

 

settings in xtu "should" stick to the next reboot once set. unless the stock bios blocks such modifications.

also, why not just go all out and may out wattages and amps in xtu? u wont burn anything down, the system just takes as much as it needs. but maxing everything out u ensure that throttling never happens

maybe xtu allows u to play around with a saved profile at boot

 

Just bought (will arrive next week) in Italy a P751TM1-G equivalent, with these components:

And the ram 4 x 16gb G.skill rpjaws I bought for my previous Precision 7710

Chosen the delidded cpu to be sure to be able to achieve the minimum possible temperature.

To minimize the temperature I think I will undervolt both CPU and GPU too, keeping the stock frequency.

Will be possible to be done all through bios? Or do I have to follow something else?
From which voltage values do you suggest I can begin to do stability test?

I don't know 8700 and 1060 typical behaviour. For sure, as usual, there will be samples better than others, but, indicatively, which minimum vcore (both CPU and GPU) can I expect to hit, mantaining the default frequency ?

Thanks
ciaooo

 

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I cant create profiles. im thinking stock bios is locked. Again I have an ava direct p750tm1-g is this my problem?

Edit: Apparently the processor core iccmax amperage sticks where I need it to so I dont current throttle. I cant undervolt which isnt a big deal as my cpu barely breaks 60c after delid and rocket copper ihs

 

Hmmm strange. I wonder if the overclocking menus are hidden for you because you have a locked CPU. My stock BIOS has those options. I am on 1.05.10 BIOS and 1.05.02 EC. It might be worth asking your seller about a BIOS update.

 

How do I update and where can I get the files?


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You have to talk to your reseller.

Edit: You could also use Clevo Control Center or ThrottleStop. You can already use ThrottleStop to adjust your voltage, power limits, core and cache ratios, etc. ICC Max will be in the next version of ThrottleStop.

 

Some settings would not apply as they would not be able to change those values.

 

Are power and current limits unable to be raised above default on locked chips like the i5-8400?

 

Certainly power can't be (that's just another form of overclocking), current I don't know.