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What's strange to me is why current limit was set to 40A for @davwman. The default on the i5-8400 is far higher than that. Did you try setting BIOS to default?

 

I have not tried bios to default. Not sure how that could fix things as I have no options to change in bios. What I can do in intel xtu is change the current limit and it sticks on boot. I noticed that when on battery, which is rare, it current limit throttles all the time which I guess makes sense. If I set to 81 amps or higher when plugged in the throttling goes away and gets rid of any micro stutters. In heaven benchmark on high settings I get 4600 score when it throttles and when it doesn’t throttle I get 4950 or higher. It’s not temperature related as my 8400 has only seen 62c at its hottest and the gtx 1070 goes as high as 80c. I’m happy with temps and now that I figured out that intel xtu fixed my current limit issue it’s all good. Still does not explain why this happened to begin with, unless there is a power profile somewhere limiting me. Sorry for the long reply, just doesn’t make any sense.

 

Doesn't hurt to try a BIOS reset. It shouldn't current limit throttle out of the box like that. If you're using Clevo Control Center, make sure you're on the Performance or Balance power profiles.

 

Will try the reset and see what happens.

 

Just bought (will arrive next week) in Italy a P751TM1-G equivalent, with these components:

Ram: 4 x 16gb G.skill rpjaws I bought for my previous Precision 7710

Chosen the delidded cpu to decrease the temperature .

To hit a lower temperature I will undervolt both CPU and GPU too. (keeping the stock frequency).

Will be possible to be done all through bios? Or do I have to do something else?

Which are the "typical" ( I know each samples vary) voltages (lower the default voltages) where both intel 8700 and nvidia 1060 are stable at their stock frequency? Which is your experience?

PS
I will install win10 into 960 EvO Nvme: do I have to set SATA "AHCI" in bios? any other advices?

Thanks
ciaooo

 

Spoke to Ava direct. Bios locks down with the locked chips. Still doesn’t explain the 40 amp current limits.


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AHCI and raid will both work with an NVME drive.

 

Thank u mate (even if I remember well, samsung nvme drivers won't work with raid settings into the bios)

what about the oher part of my post ? (undervolt of cpu and gpu)

PS looking for the manual on clevo site but I'm not finding the P751TM-G manual (finding the P75xDMx:SM) and no bios update...how is it possible? the dialer where I bought will send a cd with everything next week with the laptop but I'd like to find the exactly place online where to find always everything updated for the future.

 

You can find the user manual at Sager and the service manual on Prema's site (under Maintenance at the top). Latest drivers can be found in download section on Clevo website and GeForce drivers page.

ThrottleStop can be used to undervolt the CPU. Try setting 1.075V static voltage on core and cache in the FIVR window.

MSI Afterburner can be used to undervolt the GPU. Try adding +150MHz OC on the core first. Then open curve editor (Ctrl+F) and flatten the curve starting from 912mV voltage point.

 

I checked your display model and it's supposed to have a 40 pin connector, while the rest I've checked in p751tm1-G have a 30 pin. Has there been any sort of update?

 

30 pin cables are for 1080p 60hz panels, 144hz/120hz 1080p or 4k use the 40 pin IIRC.

 

What's up everyone! Super excited because I just ordered one of these bad boys (pasted specs below). It was between the Aorux X9 or going all out and getting the most power possible. Decided to go all out considering this was actually a tad lighter + cheaper + most likely upgradable when the new Nvidia 1100 series GPUs hit later this year.

I've read through the whole thread now, but I didn't see much Cinebench R15 scores, and I'm curious what some of your Cinebench R15 scores are for those of you that were able to get a stable OC above stock clocks.

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15.6" Full HD (1920x1080) 144Hz~7ms IPS-level 72% NTSC Matte Type Display - w/ nVIDIA® G-SYNC™ Technology - $75.00

Video Card
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 w/ 8GB GDDR5X - NVIDIA G-Sync Enabled (G-Sync with FHD panels ONLY) - $650.00

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Processor
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Memory
32GB (2 x 16GB) HIDevolution Approved Premium Dual Channel DDR4/2800MHz - $300.00

Wireless Cards
Intel® Wireless-AC 9260 802.11 ac/a/b/g/n 2x2 NGFF w/ Bluetooth 5.0 - installed by HIDevolution - $30.00

Warranty and Service
3 Year HIDevolution Limited U.S. Warranty + LIFETIME HIDevolution Technical - $300.00

 

Hi all, sorry if this has been discussed already but was not able to find going through the pages here.

Today my notebook begging to shutdown from time to time when playing. (i8700k - 1070)

I've then tried to understand what is happening, and discovered that this only happens when both CPU and GPU are being stressed for around 5 minutes.

When just the CPU is being heavily used, all is fine.
When only the GPU is being heavily used, all it is fine too.

When both are being heavily used, it consistently restart around 5 minutes after I begin the test. (even when using my laptop cooling pad with 3 fans)

I've tried to install the latest Nvidia driver as available. (397.93)
Tried the control center utility to set fans to maximum.

Sad is that I have no overclock, but the symptoms kind shows that heating is overloading the cooling system, and it can't dissipate...but why it is not Thermal Throttling instead of hard restart? (AIDA64 shows no throttle for the CPU and Afterburner shows the frequency of the card droping to 1759mhz core clock before the shutdown)

Does anyone experienced that?

 

But they used to sell p751TM1 with TN FHD 120 Hz so the connector should be 40 pin too in that case. Also there are 120 Hz IPS panels with 30 pin connectors:
http://www.panelook.com/B156HAN04.2_AUO_15.6_LCM_overview_32204.html

I didn't experience any shutdown, but definitively looks like heating. Which temps are you getting before it happens?

 

AIDA64 shows anything from 71 to 82 for the CPU and something like 81 for the GPU. Just tried to under clock the CPU but got the same...just a few seconds more.
( https://imgur.com/a/ooqnkD4 - this image is from the final second of a video that I made)

 

Those temps are fine and shouldn't shut down your laptop. The problem must be elsewhere. Is you power adapter 330W?

 

Yep, it is a PA-1331-90. Even tried plug it direct on the wall to be sure that it was not my extension...same result. :S

 

CLEVO P751TM1-G powered by Clevo-Systems present Benchmarks 3dMark , Test Cinebench , CPUID HWMonitor

Configuration:
CLEVO P751TM1-G | Extreme Gaming | Mobile Workstation | CSP751TM1GV1
i7-8700K Desktop LGA1151 | RAM 32GB | Nvidia GTX 1080

Links for 3dMark Benchmarks:
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/12782115
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/12782118
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/26666645
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/26666694
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/26666775

Enjoy !

 

Cdn... Test Cinebench

Configuration:
CLEVO P751TM1-G | Extreme Gaming | Mobile Workstation | CSP751TM1GV1
i7-8700K Desktop LGA1151 | RAM 32GB | Nvidia GTX 1080

 

Your single core result looks good, but your multi-thread score should be just over 1,300. Might be something weird going on in the background.

 

Most likely wrong power limits.

 

maybe possible, we dont change anything, we dont close anything, we test like just normally end-user.

 

Yup, could be a number of things. Completely stock factory setting with zero tweeking (which is I assume what's being run as the other scores match up with this) should get just over 1,300 though.

 

Looks like an exception to every rule

 

Did you happen to disable UEFI Boot in the BIOS?

Reason I ask is that there is a weird bug with the BIOS on this machine. If you disable UEFI Boot, it automatically limits the CPU to 40 amps. You have to go back into the overclocking menu and change the current limit, but since that menu is hidden for you due to the locked CPU, you can't do it in BIOS.

 

well its about time that more resellers offer the 15 inch P7 model with the 1080 been thinking about this ever since the 10 series GPUs came out. really surprised that barely any users have done that upgrade!

 

will give it a shot

 

Obsidian was already offering the 1080 on p751TM at least from December-17, but not on the web, only when chating with them.

 

thats the TM, what about the DM2/3 models before that?

 

Sorry, misunderstood you.

 

Turns out that the issue was temp after all. Something was messing up with the readings, and showing a 20c offset (79 instead of 98)

Does anyone had issue with temps on stock configs? The problem only happens when running AIDA64 with CPU and GPU stress test at the same time.
But it stops when I set the 6 cores Multi to 37x.

 

Delidding helps the CPU temps a ton. You can drop up to 20C under load. Your GPU temp looks fine. Try max fans also (Fn+1).

 

No Prema bios yet to max out the Fans.

I've changed the Turbo Boost Short Power Max from the 118.50w that came from PCSpecialist, to 110w. Everything is smooth now.

Not sure if it is power delivery problem something else.

 

Max fans works on all BIOSes and without Clevo Control Center, just use Fn+1.

 

Usually power limits are a bit more graceful than temperature limits.

 

hey guys,
p751tm-g just arrived witn 8700 (not K) delidded and 1060gtx
i have some doubts /problems:

1)msiafterburner: can't modify voltage even in the setting I flagged to be able to do it
2)throttlestop: does not start, it says me missing 2 dll: mfc120u and msvcr120

3)nvidia driver website: do I have to download the mx100->Mx150 or the 10 series notebook?
4) "optimus" won't work, am I correct? so in unuseful to install intel drivers for the intel GPU?

5) from cpu-z I'm seeing my ram (g.skill rpjaws 2666) are working at 1200 (this means 2400 but why not 2666 ? ...from the PC bios menu I've seen there is no advanced settings...is very poor)

What's going wrong? What am I missing?

do I have to install some special drivers or bios?


thanks

 

1) I'd like to know this too and I've never tried messing with GPU voltage from afterburner. Works great for clocks though.

2)I'd get a fresh copy, it works great for me, nothing special.

3)get the 10 series notebook ones

4)correct, do not try to install intel graphics drivers

5)Where did you get it? did it come with an unlocked BIOS? Mine is running 2666 and i do have a memory section for settings

 

thank u mate

5) got in Italy: "raiontech"
2) just did it but again the same error...

And here my BIOS screen:

 

5)I would ask the vendor what is available for BIOS options. They may have it locked down, but I thought even non-prema BIOS's should allow memory settings at least.

2)Make sure the system is fully windows updated. It took mine a day to get all the updates, some major, some minor. If you get "fully up to date" when you manually check, then you may want to try installing the latest Visual C++ Redistributable Package. This was just a quick google search I did, so not guarantee it fixes it.

 

1. Use the curve (Ctrl+F)
2. Click the "Update for Visual C++ 2013 Redistributable Package" Internet shortcut in the ThrottleStop folder
3. Doesn't matter, it's the same driver either way
   
4. No Optimus on this machine
5. Maybe those sticks need XMP to run at 2666, but with a locked non-K CPU, the overclocking menus in the BIOS where you would adjust the memory are hidden for you. You can try seeing if Intel XTU or Clevo Control Center lets you enable XMP.

 

thank u mate


2) already installed it, but the x64. Installing the the x86 visualc++, the throttlestop now works!
so started immediately prime95 and I'm not so happy: I'm seeing the system drops down everything under prime95 in full load: vcore 0,9v, clocks 2,9ghz and temperatures under full load 69 degrees...considering the cpu should be delidded and vcore so low I don't think is a good temperature..I'd like to use the cpu at his maximum default potential frequency that is not 2.9 !

edit: tried to set static voltage (1,07v) for both cpu and cache in the FIVR window and the clock drops down to 1.8 !

5) I'm seeing in the clevo website a clevo control center version of 2015 yr. possible?

1) I'll try it, but very strange I can't use the normal slide like I've seen in many screenshots…

ciao!

 

Personally I am ok with load temps under 90C, temps under 80 are better, and when loads are under 70 with a desktop CPU in a "small" laptop chassis I am ecstatic. I think you're fine, non-delid folks have seen 95-100C if I'm not mistaken. Not sure what is going on with the 2.9Ghz though, windows power profile or something?

 

What does Limit Reasons say when you throttle, and what does your TPL window look like?

The latest version of CCC is from 2018, you can find the drivers by selecting your model in the list here: http://www.clevo.com.tw/clevo_down.asp?lang=en

The voltage slider in Afterburner doesn't work on notebook GPUs, only desktop ones.

 

here how my TPL looks like

 

See if you can uncheck Clamp and enter 95 and 118 for the package power long and short.

Take a look at what Limit Reasons says when Prime95 throttles.

Try adding the line CpuSupportsAVX=0 to local.txt in the Prime95 folder and see if it still throttles when running.

 

vcore fixed 1.07v
clamp unchecked and set 95-118
for now no local.txt update in Prime
runned prime: now the clock is running a 3.2 GHz instead of 1.9ghz and temperature increased so much: 87 degrees….
the TPL limits shows me "PL 1 " in red color...
what frequency should I expect with all the core running prime? shouldn't be 4.3 GHz?
87 degrees with only 3.2 GHz...is it really been delidded? do I have to trust about it?

 

@yrekabakery

adding the line you suggested me
CpuSupportsAVX=0

now all the cores are running correctly at 4.3 GHz under full load in prime95....for 1 minute...after that dropped at 3.5ghz...temperature are 90°c...
what do you think now?
about the delid? is it really delidded (it is supposed to have been delidded like the shop told me and made me pay 50 eur more)

 

Work as designed... A locked chips https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/core_i7/i7-8700

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i7-8700-SoC-Benchmarks-and-Specs.285074.0.html

With more normal load the chips will come nearer or run stated boost clocks.

 

What is the package power before and after the clocks drop?

It sounds like you can't raise power limits on the locked 8700 non-K, so it won't be able to sustain full 4.3 all-core boost in something as power-hungry as Prime95, and if AVX is enabled it drops even lower. That's normal.

As for temps, try max fans (Fn+1). Auto fans only goes up to about 80%.

 

idle pkg shows 13-15w and the frequency throttle between 1.5 and 2ghz more or less
under full prime: for the first 30-40", 4.3ghz and PKG about 111-115w watt...after that - when the temperature reaches 90°C - frequency drop at 3.5ghz, temperature drops and PKG is stable at 95w. (always under full prime)

PS very strange for a couple of minutes - even if prime was stopped and cpu at 0%, the keyboard was not able to respond me if I wanted to write...now it's everything ok.

PPS do I have to suspect the cpu has not been delidded or has been done it for sure?

PPPS installed clevo control center but can't see any XMP control...