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The 2400MHz JEDEC timings are what it would run at without XMP, but since yours is set to the XMP profile, it's running at its full 3000MHz CL18 1.35V.

I couldn't find much info on your Apacer Nox modules, it seems they are only sold in Asia. They are definitely not G.Skill. The Ripjaws and Corsair Vengeance (what I have) modules run 3000MHz at tighter timings and lower voltage out of the box.

 

Running a few benchmarks today, and thought I'd post up my 3DMark Timespy results.

This machine is the Sager NP9155, with the i7-8086K CPU and GTX 1080 GPU, running 32-gigs of 3000mhz DRAM with a Samsung 970 Pro NVSE 1tb system drive with Window 10 Professional as the OS. Latest hardware drivers for all hardware.

I'm running the machine exactly as received from Sager, at the stock clocks and voltages.

Now, I'm sure this Timespy score is pretty middle-of-the-road for this particular combination of hardware, but I was pretty impressed with the temperatures and temperature stability of this machine during the test.

Here are my results, divided into two images in order to show the whole report, including temperature graphs:

 

Were you set to maximum performance in the power profiles?

 

I agree with @Meaker@Sager, something is not right. Your CPU should not be running below its base clock despite low temps.

 

Its happening in the more you bound areas so it does look like a setting of some kind.

 

HI all,
I have had some time to test my 751tm1. Briefly:

• the 144hz IPS is amazing. As fast as a TN panel, even faster, no motion blur, no shadowing, nice colors and quick panel.
• 8700k runs OK on stock clock, however I still dont get intel xTU.... even if I set -125mV underclock it gives 1,35-138V to the cpu... what could be wrong? I set all cores to 4,7Gz, W limit to 200W, but the voltage seems very high even with undervolt...
• 1070 runs 1,05V 100W scores 19k in firestrike graphics bench on stock clocks. With superposition it was 80C which is OK I guess
• the fan curve is really bad, spins up really slow, sometimes I felt really bad after my 775dm3 with premamod - I cannot wait obsidian tool to manage the fan curve
• even it is a 15'' machine, its very heavy compare to my F5. On one hand I feel clevo did not save on materials on the other hand its a little heavy to carry. However after a couple of days I can get used to it I guess

So far that's it, if anyone has some idea regarding intel xtu do not hesitate to write
thx

 

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@Meaker@Sager :

No, I wasn't using the high performance power profile.

The machine as received from Sager (I think this is the latest Windows 10 factory default, actually) only had one plan, which was the Balanced plan, and I haven't yet bothered to activate any others. I've been pretty satisfied with the machine's performance vs. temperatures so far, and haven't felt I needed additional performance for the kinds of things I'm using it for. Mainly a gaming machine, and as long as gameplay is smooth (which it is) then I tend to optimize in favor of temperatures over performance.

In addition, I have found the "Entertainment" preset in the Control Center software to offer a good balance of performance versus temperatures/noise. I was not thrilled with the "Performance" setting, as it seemed to result in a lot of fan noise and heat during high-demand usage, actually resulting in a CTD during an intense session of GTA Online, which I believe was due to the hardware overwhelming the capabilities of the cooling system.
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@yrekabakery :

In addition to only using the Balanced power plan, I had forgotten that I modified it to use 99% for the Maximum processor state. I often do this to prevent the machine from entering turbo mode. The fact that this setting prevents Turbo mode from activating was something I learned in the Razer forum a couple of years ago, and I've always found it useful. It also explains why the max CPU frequencies you're seeing remain just shy of 4000mhz (should be about 3996, if my math is right), and no excursions into Turbo territory were seen.[/FONT]​

Sorry if that was misleading to folks - I would have mentioned it in my post, but I did it almost a week ago, and had forgotten about it. But I still stand by my statement that perfectly acceptable performance (as shown by the Timespy score) is not unobtainable on this machine with decent temperatures, as long as you're not trying to extract the absolute maximum performance the machine is actually capable of, which I've little interest in.

 

High performance is mostly for benchmarks to you can test the machine at full pelt is all

 

Another game with bad optimization...

 

Hi Guys,
I have tried to put my 1080gtx from my 775dm3 to my new 750tm1, but the display does not switch on I tried to reset the card again, but nothing. I have started with bios reset but it did not help. Both machine run fine with its own card... can somebody help me how it can be fixed? I wanted to replace the card and sell my beloved 775dm3 with the 1070...
thx in advance

 

You need to flash the card with a current Vbios.

 

thx, where can I find the current vbios? I assume it will work in the 775dm3 as well, right?

 

I don't have the file to hand at the moment, anyone with a 7xxtm1 could dump theirs.

 

THX! Anyone could dump me one? Let me ask if I use it, the card will work in the 775dm3 as well? I have not decided yet which machine I will sell

 

I never tested reverse compatibility but I think so, worst case you can flash it back in the new machine.

 

Hmm, it would be interesting, as it give black screen with old vbios.... can I brick it with flashing the bios?

 

He can correct me if I'm wrong, but I heard @Prema say that those vBIOSes are not cross compatible and you will brick your card trying to flash the other one.

 

You can't use a vbios from a "4 core" version of a GTX 1080 with a 6 core laptop. It will not POST or will black screen.
You can blame NGREEDIA For this.
Obviously desktops don't have this problem.

You *MAY* be able to FORCE FLASH a 6 core GTX 1080 vbios into your video card but

1)THIS WILL REQUIRE A HARDWARE PROGRAMMER (Skypro or Skypro II + 1.8v adapter + Pomona 5250 clip will work. don't forget the male to female cables).
2) And there's still no guarantee a force flash will work, as there may be a mismatched PCI ID or other strange things on the card that may stop it from working.

As long as the VRM controller is the same, the worst that would happen is a soft brick. In that case you just say "mission failed" and reflash the original vbios. The vbios integrity is not damaged as it's not a "falcon protected" mod, but no one knows if the card will POST or not.

 

So annoying... i bought the 751tm to upgrade to 1080... so dissappointed i cannot do hw modding

anybody any idea?

 

I programmed my 1080s over from my 9873 to 9877 using a programmer and clip.

 

So it could work.. could you dump me a vbios? is there anybody here who makes it for me (paid of course). I need to also modify the 1070 fro the 775dm3?
thx for your kind help!

 

I hesitate for two reasons, prema modded it a little and it's from a different series so i'm not 100% sure it will work.

10xx cards from DM systems need a newer vbios to work in TM series.

 

ok what vbios version should I look for? somebody can dump me a 1080 vbios from tm system? Of course if prema version is not allowed I understand. For me any stock vbios if fine...

 

86.04.80.00.20 is the version I am running.

 

thx, anyone can dump me a 1080 vbios out of tm model? thx!

 

I tried, but unfortunately it says "BIOS reading is not supported on this device".

 

Thx! You have tried with gpu-z or nvflash? gpu-z usually makes this mistake...

 

Sorry about that. Here you go: https://www.sendspace.com/file/syukbl

 

Nice work @yrekabakery

 

Thank you very much! wish me luck

 

Do I need the same method reverse for the 1070 which is in the tm1 in order to put in the dm3? or reverse it is ok? Can I find somewhere a simple clevo 1070 vbios?
thx!

Could you pls also check the bios version in gpu-z? thx as lot for your help!!!

 

I think techpowerup may have that one.

 

Thx found!

 

Its a useful place to have on bookmark.

 

86.04.80.00.24

 

Thank you for your kind help. It looks even newer then Meaker's .20 version

 

On a different note, how do you keep the GPU/CPU temps low while gaming in high to ultra settings?

Case in point, I tried playing PUBG and Fortnite, but the fans would throttle to the max because the CPU would reach to sub-90ºC temperatures.

What are your specific fan settings in the Clevo Control Center? Do you undervolt the GPU? As for the CPU, my laptop came with a delidded one which can be safely OC'd to 4.8 MHz while being undervolted by at least 100 mV. Currently, I'm using the 3.7 MHz profile setting with ThrottleStop.

The ambient temparature in my room is around 23ºC, and the laptop is already elevated for better airflow.

It just takes away all my excitement with some of the games that I have in my library when I can't even play them without worrying about the laptop.

EDIT: I believe that the fans will still be blowing at max speed even if I use the lowest graphics settings, and the temperature difference would only be around 8ºC.

 

My laptop - 751tm1 - has stock bios with very bad fan curve. I have tired some games - Overwatch, COD WWII on max, and the 1070 was 80C max, cpu @ 4,7Ghz was around 82-85C, BUT I did not managed to undervolt with Intel XTU... not matter what I have set it gives 1,38V the the cores on 4,7 what I dont understand. So all in all the temps were OK with these very bad settings...

 

Tried ThrottleStop instead of XTU?

 

Not yet, to be honest, I do not understand how it works...

 

Read first two pages in the main thread. If needed just ask the TS author @unclewebb
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/

You find how to use it as well in bro @Mr. Fox Youtube channel. Google it.

+ This guide is useful for you https://www.notebookcheck.net/How-t...ife-The-ThrottleStop-Guide-2017.213140.0.html

I’m on a phone (Summer vacation) and it’s difficult for me to explain everything now. But read the links.

 

thx a lot for your kind support, I will definately, enjoy your vacation!!!

 

P750 TM1 doesn't have a good enough heatsink to handle an overclocked 6 core CPU reliably. The system you want for an overclocked 8700K is the P870 TM1 with the vapor chamber heatsink.
Remember, even some DESKTOPS have problems taming the 8700K. How do you think a lower than top of the line laptop/vapor chamber heatsink would fare on a laptop with this CPU?

 

Still should manage much better than the 3.7GHz ThrottleStop clock speed profile he use. But yeah, 4.8GHz OC on all 6 cores is too much for this small machine.

 

Oh. Damn. I guess I was more optimistic about it.

I thought I could play those games reliably without the extreme temps. on the CPU. I was thinking somewhere around 75ºC.

But yeah, I only use 3.7 GHz because it's mostly for browsing and light gamning right now.

Man, this is a downer for the day.

 

I don't think it's anything to be down about. Your expectations are just unrealistic.

Also be thankful you don't have the GTX 1080. That's the real fireball, especially during the summer.

 

Power ramps quickly, even taking off a few 100mhz will keep power down a lot, but the question is, is it worth it?

 

You still should manage a 4.7GHz overclock. Then again you don't have PremaMod, and have to use software. I don't like using software for OC.

 

He have a EVOC P750TM1 It’s a 15,6 inches chassis.

 

A good sample can also help a lot by reducing the needed voltage.