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Yes, the sub is the difference between the two.

 

Anybody knows how to access the second M.2 SSD slot for this machine? I can't find hardware maintenance manual. Thanks.

 

Check this: http://downloads.eurocom.com/support/drivers/models/X7c/X7C_HDD.pdf

 

Thanks. But this only shows the first M.2 slot, which I already know. Where's another M.2 slot? Is it under keyboard like the other two RAM slots?

 

Page 3, Image C, between the subwoofer and the 2.5” bay
see pic attached - this is for P775TM1

 

Here are some quick teardown guides for the P750TM1 in case anyone wants them.

 

Hi guys,

I’m new to building laptop and haven’t heard of LGA laptops until reading about Clevos on this site. I’ve been reading to prepare to get an EVOC P750TM1, given its size and performance.

My question is, assuming I can mod the bottom cover and fill it wil some water (of course the water wouldn’t touch the motherboard), would it help with the cooling or am I missing something? The P750TM1 will be stationary as my desktop, so no moving it around.

Hope to hear from you.

 

From your description, I am assuming you are considering having the heat sinks in a water bath. There would be no way to do that because the water level would need to be so deep everything else would be submerged. That aside, I would not recommend it conceptually. Not only would it negate any functionality it would have as a laptop, the water would eventually get hot and ultimately be worse than air cooling once it heated up. You would need a radiator to cool the heated water down closer to the ambient temp. Having the moisture in the chassis (humidity) would also be an issue using a water bath for the heat sink radiators.

You could go with a closed loop cooling system like a desktop, but if it is going to be stationary and used as a desktop you would be ahead in terms of performance and money spent by building a liquid cooled desktop and just skipping the laptop altogether.

 

Thank you @Mr. Fox . You pointed out where my idea flawed. A desktop wwould take up much more space than I can have, plus when I move, if I had to, a laptop would be more convenient.

 

No problem... I like how you are thinking though... that is how great things happen. Innovation and ingenuity are so rare today.

Find out where Brother @Huniken is getting his water cooling parts for his EVOC 16L-G-1080/Tornado F5. I think they may have the same for the laptop you are interested in.

 

HID is a good choice. They offer delidding and binned Cpu. This has to be your first step to get colder temperatures.

 

Thanks for the tip @Mr. Fox . I’ll follow that lead.

That is true @Papusan . I’ve been reading the reviews on both HID and LPC, given their partnership with Prema, and their highly positive customer service. Yet, that full service of delidding, undervolting, and overclocking screams really loud( hopefully louder than the fans of the EVOC itself on Fn+1 ).

 

I love the Fn+1 functionality Fan noise can be tackled with headset IF needed.

 

True . I absolutely don’t mind the fan noise, as long as the machine is cool.

 

An excellent paste job can also mean that when going to idle the temperature change is rapid and the fans spin down quickly.

 

Hi,
I have a Clevo P7xxTM1 machine, most probably from Style Note (bootscreen shows this logo).
I have bios 10.5.10 and EC 10.5.03.
I have found these stock verions: BIOS 10.5.11 and EC 10.5.07.
Can I upgrade? I am not really familiar with bios/ec stuffs, could I brick it?
thx

 

Technically yes, you should get your updates from your reseller to ensure you get the right one for your machine.

 

Don't all of the generic Clevo BIOS have a StyleNote boot logo? I thought only Sager and boutique vendors change the boot logo for their personal branding.

 

What is the size of the thermal pad to put under the M.2 SSD? Is it necessary?

 

Yes the stylenote is the default.

You should get it with the machine. It's not necessary but can be nice especially if you load the disk a lot.

 

I do not know where it was bought from I have upgraded the EC and BIOS, but the voltage spikes still not solved... I do not get why the laptop gives 1,3-1,4V to the 8700k at 4,5Ghz... Under stress it is under 1,2V, however there are big spikes...

 

You can try undervolting but given the space/power limitations for the VRM this will happen though the readings are perhaps exaggerated.

 

I apologize but I do not get it I use -120mV

Is it OK to use override (static) voltage? In this case eventhough the cpu clock goes down to 1ghz it still gets 1V. In adaptive mode at 1Ghz hwinfo shows 0,5V.

With override voltage the voltage spikes are lower, even on 4,7ghz with IntelBurnTest the max voltage is 1,3V @ 80C max. Pretty confused with this, with my previous clevos I have not have such things... may be it is ok, the machine seems stable...

 

Read... http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-overclockers-lounge.788975/page-1614#post-10752104

 

Don't stress too much basically.

 

Thx mate, I wont stress than... kept the adaptive - 120mV, spikes up to 1,4V however on 4,5Ghz the temps are fine, so all in all I am quite happy with this after my beloved F5

 

Sounds like a well balanced setup

 

I am quite happy with it after my F5. All clevos needs some time to set it up. 8700k@4,5Ghz runs under 80C, 1080Gtx capped @0,9V also kept under 85C under heavy stress. All I need is a premabios

 

Don't know how much it would help to be honest.

 

At least I could eliminate the voltage spikes

 

Those are indeed great temperatures.

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I'm not sure you could really. It's just how the vrm operates and reports.

 

How is your 8700K running lower temps then me and im using the P775TM1-G?

 

Every chip is different as are conditions.

 

Let me know what test you use, I check if there is any difference. I have tested with IBT. on 4,5ghz it is around 1,1V... on 4,7Ghgz its around 1,2V, but the temps are higher on that...

 

It was probably lost
I'm going to buy a simple heatsink to put on top of it.

 

A heatsink wont have airflow.

 

Neither does the thermal pad that sits beneath the ssd. Are you saying that adding the heat-sink will hurt more than it helps?

 

A thermal pad dissipates to the case so there is thermal energy flow. A heatsink will just trap the air and add thermal mass, a pad is better.

 

But the pad sits bellow the SSD, it will transfer heat to the motherboard, at least in the first slot.

 

Either works The motherboard can act as a heatsink.

 

So, you really don't recomend getting this, this or this to add to my 970 Evo?

 

Nope and the heat spreading out in the copper label to the NAND lengthens its life and max storage times.

 

112ºC Max temp I really need to add the original thermal pad. It's 3cm thich?

 

That's in a benchmark running for how long though? In general usage you never get anywhere near that most likely.

 

Amazing! I have never ever thought this temp is possible...

 

It is if you smash the controller for extended periods. It's so fast though that normal usage wont get close to those temperatures.

 

Could you run the test 3 times a row and post temp and results? Should be a clean graph.
ATTO Disk Benchmark v4.00.0f2

All too high temps for a short 4 min ssd Benchmark.

Have seen similar in the Alienware’s. 3 months usage showed decrease in ssd remaining lifespan. Some showed drop down to 91%. Of course it depends also on ssd brand. Dell used boiling Toshiba NVMe drives.

Many got them replaced afterwards due high temps and ssd degradation.

 

4 minutes = 240 seconds

240 seconds x 3.5GB/sec = 840GB of data

You would have to write more than the capacity of the drive to get that.

This temp will not decrease the lifespan of the NAND (doing lots of repeated random write testing will).

 

He should as well follow temp in his daily workflow. Not all have same usage.

And your measurements is wrong. The Sequential speed test aka mentioned 3.5GB/sec is only a small part of the whole bench test. I’m sure the high temps wasn’t very high in the first part of the tests.

As I said... A lot NVMe drives in Dell books was replaced after short time(many complaints). And many of those ssd’d run colder than showed above (with following decreased lifespan).

And what brand does matter.