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Right okay

Am going to be repasting with thermal paste now anyway. Hope I get this right. Any tips?

 

Depending on how spreadable the paste you're using is, I'd either manually spread a thin, even layer over the heatspreader/chip, or put an X shape over the IHS and pea-sized ball over the GPU. Make sure you follow the numbering and apply some downward force on the heatsink when tightening. Don't bottom out each screw all at once, do a bit at a time.

Your original spread doesn’t look so bad that I’d say the toothpick/paperclip mod is required, unless you’re planning to use LM.

 

Apply some pressure with your hand as you are tightening the screws too.

 

I went on through a bit of a rough journey yesterday in terms of applying the LM and getting my system back up and running

After cleaning of the thermal paste and deciding to go liquid metal, I also decided to delid the 8700k since the laptop was already opened

Delidding was way easier than I thought, I just had to get a razor blade and cut off the adhesive used to glue the CPU. I have attached images of the delidded 8700k, along with the LM applied. This was the easy part.

After applying LM to the top of the CPU IHS and the GPU I put my cooler back and proceeded to turning on the machine, but it wouldn't post and instantly just shut down. .

I spent the whole night troubleshooting this as I wasn't sure were I had gone wrong in the process. After a couple of hours, I took out one ram stick and it posted but was glitchy, kept getting random errors in windows and games crashed after a minute.

I figured it couldnt just be my RAM sticks as they were fine before disassembly.

After a few more troubleshooting steps, I decided the issue was my GPU or RAM sticks as CPU stress tests ran fine without issues but games still kept crashing. After switching RAM sticks and a few more troubleshooting steps, I later found out it was a mis-aligned thermal pad for a row of the memory chips which I guess in turn made the laptop glitchy and cause it to instantly shutdown at times on start-up. I checked the thermal pad placements for the GPU on the old heatsink which I still had and found out it was a bit off. I find it strange that mis-aligned thermal pad can cause instant shut-off at start up. The glitchiness in games I understand, but not to post was quite surprising. Also at the same time as I fixed the thermal pad alignment, I also re-coated the gpu and cpu with more LM, so it may have been they weren't getting enough contact with the heat sink.

So far so good, was able to stress the laptop with some long gaming sessions and everything seems fine.

Temperatures for the CPU have dropped around 10~14C and GPU about 10C as well, which I guess is not too bad.

I have also been able to OC the CPU to 4.7ghz which is a plus.

Hope I dont run into any other issues.

 

Ah, if you’re using LM I’d recommend the toothpick/paperclip fulcrum mod then. Also I hope you sealed it properly to prevent LM leakage.

 

A mis-aligned pad will throw off the entire heatsink, you may have had a VRM which was basically insulated rather than cooled.

 

Hi !
Any idea why this laptop give this error when trying to flash the latest bios ?

EC and 2nd EC was flashed from dos, also trid running memet.exe from dos and wmeset.exe from w10 bit but this error always terminates the flashing.



Any idea why ?

Thank you!

 

Did you run the meset?

 

Yes, there is no meset.exe in the latest bios's folder but used one from another bios folder.
Also tried wmeset.exe under windows.

Nothing helped.

 

Sounds like something is confused in the package.

 

Hi guys,
I'll be playing AAA games on FHD most of the time. Do you think it's worth 9900K and 2080 in this machine? GTX 1080 and 8700K at HID is currently at under $3,000. (stock HDD and RAM)

 

9900K no, 2080 maybe (depends on TDP and performance).

 

I see. Thanks!

 

For gaming the 8700k or 9700k do very well.

 

Hello

I personaly own a P751TM-G und I want to buy a second one with RTX2080.
When I try to configure such a machine in a webshop there ist an option for a WWAN LTE UMTS 4G module based on a M.2 slot.
I also want to buy two nvme based PCIe SSDs for the two M.2 slots available for SSDs.
So are there three M.2 slots available ? I cannot find the one for the 4G option ?!
Is there any know problem using two PCIe SSD (M.2) and one 4G module at the same time ?

Please let me know.

 

No, the module takes one of the slots.

 

GeForce RTX 2060 VS GeForce RTX 2070 VS GeForce RTX 2080 VS GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q VS GeForce RTX 2080 Max-Q
in
Clevo P750tm VS Gigabyte Aero 15 X9 Acer Triton 500
https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDI...-Laptop-GPUs-Performance-Review.401266.0.html

 

Got new p751 last week and I have problems with DPC latency spikes. As usual the NVidia is main problem but even when I disable NVidia driver and wifi/network I still get latency spikes in ACPI.sys and Wdf01000.sys.
I bought it from Obsidian and I use their updater for managing drivers, so I didn't manually mess with driver versions.
Does anyone have experience tweaking to minimze DPC latency ?

 

Are you talking about audio latency?
Get the right drivers for your audio card. Check sample rate.
Watch background processes and check them for spikes. Uninstall software and check one by one if this is causing the issue. Sometimes a bad plug-in can be a cause

 

I am talking about system DPC latency as measured by LatencyMon.
Yes the reason I care about this is real time audio performance.
But audio drivers are not the problem, nor is the audio interface, since the problem happens without audio interface.
The problem is mostly ACPI.sys and Wdf01000.sys to lesser extent, as determined by LatencyMon.
These spikes happen with NVidia driver disabled, WIFI and network adapters disabled, internal Realtek audio is disabled, external RME audio interface disconnected.
So only connections are external monitor and keyboard/mouse.

Laptop is 7 days old and there is nothing to uninstall as far as additional software goes, no antivirus or similar stuff.

LatencyMon reports ACPI.sys, but this encompasses various devices and I don't know of a way to get detail of what exactly within ACPI.sys is causing DPC spikes.
I tried using xPerf and examining trace log in Windows Performance Analyzer but this again goes up to detail of ACPI.sys, not within.

Each system is different and one can find all sorts of advice so I'm posting here is to limit scope to users with same laptop.

One thing I've read (which may or may not be correct) is that NVMe PCIe produce higher DPC latency spikes than SATA drives.
I could perhaps uninstall Intel Rapid Storage, but this is just guessing in the dark.

So hoping someone went through the same path since p751 is not that new.

 

WiFi / network activity is often a cause. You might doublecheck on this
Playing with the page file might help. Sometimes it helps increasing it or not using it

 

You could also stop some services you do not need. There is plenty info to be found on the net. But be carefull with that

 

Thanks for the replies, I am aware of the general advice to disable what you don't need, which is correct in theory but really too vague in reality.
In Windows 10 there are tons of services, devices and processes, just randomly disabling stuff doesn't sound like best strategy.
That's why I posted here hoping someone else with same laptop has gone through this already.

 

I know, it can be a real pain. I cannot remember having this problem solved easily. Please share if you do find the cause.

 

Maybe I'm just missing it in my searches, but has anyone found/used/had a good experience with 1440p panels in this model? All the purchasing options I'm finding are either FHD 60/120/144 or 4k60.

 

No seller offers a 1440p option for this model, AFAIK 15.6” 1440p panels are quite rare.

 

Thanks. That's disappointing given the new GPU options.

 

I'm trying to think of any gaming notebook that has used a 15.6" 1440p panel.

 

The closest I can think of are some of the older Aorus X5 models that had a 15.6" 2880x1620 60Hz panel.

 

I think so too so they are just not made.

 

I had hoped to see a rollout of more options between 1080p and 4k given that this seems to be where the RTX series starts to differentiate itself.

Also I have a W230ss with a 3200x1600 screen, so I've really grown accustomed to the idea of my laptop being a hi dpi fireball.

 

Fireball in the literal sense would be bad

 

Hey guys, new owner here (got mine second hand). Any ideas on the laptop not booting? I've got the Clevo P751TM1-G (AvaDirect one, but like I said second hand), delidded 8700K and 1070. Tried a 130mv undervolt with Clevo's (admittedly crappy) software, but the laptop froze up and shut down about an hour later while running Assassin's Creed Odyssey. It'll turn on but to a black screen, then about 20-30 seconds later it shuts down, reboots, maxes the fans, and again black screen. Shuts down and stays off after about a minute. Keyboard lights up, power lights come on, recognizes the battery, everything. Removing the CMOS battery for 30 minutes or so didn't help (last time it failed an undervolt I removed the CMOS battery to clear the BIOS and it worked fine), just black screen, no POST. Removed all the drives and RAM and nothing happens, same with one stick of RAM or other various combos. Took out the wifi card and all that too to make sure it's not an issue with one of those. Reseated the CPU, cleaned off the bottom of it because there was a small bit of dirt on one of the contacts for some reason, also reseated the GPU, no luck. Have a basic mobo in the mail to test the CPU and make sure it's not that.

It worked fine when I first got it, when it's working it plays games smooth af, and the previous owner used it for 9 months or so with a few tweaks: "I ran the 8700k with a mild all core overclock of 4.4Ghz with 4.6Ghz on four cores and 4.8Ghz on two cores with a -130mV undervolt. It ran pretty happy and I managed to tune a battery profile that I got about 1 hour and 50 minutes while gaming on the battery."

 

Sounds like potentially a graphics card issue. Have you inspected it?

 

GPU is visually fine, reseated that and the CPU. Both have a liquid metal TIM between them and the copper heatsinks, CPU also has a custom copper IHS. It's properly applied though and not making any contact with places it shouldn't as far as I can tell. GPU was fine in my testing too, handled Furmark easily, whereas the CPU crashed both times I tried undervolting. First time I was too aggressive, but a BIOS reset fixed it, second time I did a -130mv undervolt, same as the previous owner had. It then worked fine for about an hour of Assassin's Creed Odyssey, which is incredibly demanding on the CPU, then it suddenly froze and shut down, hasn't POSTed since, it'll turn on but no beeps or BIOS screen.

 

Does the behaviour change at all booting without the GPU?

 

Haven't tried that yet, I will as soon as I get home tonight. I didn't think it could boot without the GPU so I haven't tested that yet.

 

It's a case of perhaps behaving differently to see if its having some impact. It cant properly boot but you may get beeps.

 

Try this... http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...enix-has-arisen.781814/page-968#post-10710964

 

Ah, I think I tried booting it without the CPU and it didn't do anything, I'll try stripping out every removable piece of hardware other than the mobo/screen itself and try again, then see what it does.

 

Let us know if you notice anything that changes things.

 

Removed the GPU, attempted to boot, same as normal. Put it back in and it booted to BIOS screen so I put it back together and then booted it again. Got into windows, signed in like normal with the fingerprint scanner, but then as soon as I got in to my user it froze and shut down again.

 

Just completed a 4K Display upgrade on my P750TM1, and can I just say the this was way simpler and straightforward than I thought, the process was painless.

I simply followed the instructions on:

The 4K screen I got was the LP156UD1 SPB1. I got this panel as I saw it used the same display cable as the 1080p 144hz screen I had so complete disassembly of the laptop to switch the display cables was not needed.

But can I say the panel is gorgeous, its almost like the OLED TV I have back at home. Defo give the 4K screen a thumbs.

And as I mostly play on my 1440p 144hz 27inch screen, the you cant game on 4k with a 1070 argument doesnt really affect me, and if I do want to game on the go, I am fine reducing the settings.

But I much find working with this laptop on the go with the 4K a much better experience, I do enjoy the extra sharpness .

Also I have just noticed that the display actually DOES support G-sync, I heard somewhere else that it didn't

 

So I'm worried about the cable for the PSU hanging out the back of this... I'd like to put this on a stand, but will this cable get bent / recked?

I wish they'd made it a right-angle cable.

 

You could get a power brick with a right angle on it.

 

OH?!

I wish I've had that option when I'd bought the machine!! Oi.

But now I don't want to spend $200 for a new brick. Is there some kind of adapter?

Or if I just let the regular cable hang without support, will I wreck the laptop?


{Edit. Ooops, I posted in the wrong thread!! I meant to post this in the
P751TM-G Owner's Lounge! !}

 

$200? Where do you shop? It will use a 5.5x2.5 barrel type 19.5v brick, just need to match the ampage.

 

Here is a first test of the Schenker XMG 15 (Clevo P751TM1-G) @ RTX2070.

English:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Schen...0-Clevo-P751TM1-G-Laptop-Review.412087.0.html

German:
https://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-...RTX-2070-Clevo-P751TM1-G-Laptop.407856.0.html

I personaly own the same notebook with core i9 9900K and RTX 2080 now for some weeks too.

 

Some results for Core i9 9900K + RTX 2080 @ Clevo P751TM1-G = Schenker DTR 15.
Everthing with no oc and no undervolting.

 

I changed CPU fan settings in control center 2.0 because it was to loud when doing simple tasks to that:



I updatet all drivers with Obsidian and Geforce Experiance, stock driver(s) seemed to be too old for me.







I decided not to install Intel Rapid driver and not to install Samsung NVME driver: