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How did you flash it?

 

I ended up using a programmer for bios chips.

 

Check the programming, some do like to mis-write the first hex value.

 

Hi,
Tools for flashing the ITE8587 are easy to find.
What utility (or command line on existing utilities eg ELASH15) would allow to BACK-UP the existing ITE8587 content?

Thx

 

Tl886+ and Minipro with an adapter should more or less be able to copy out the content.

 

Hi Guys, just got my very own P750TM1 delivered today. Must say its a really good machine, I upgraded from the P650 RS-G and theres actually quite a massive difference usage/performance.

But just a quick question regarding usage, is it safe to remove the battery while the laptop is plugged in and turned on? as this has the easily removable batteries

 

Safe yes, but no reason to.

 

Ok, thanks.

Also, I read somewhere that the TM1 laptops support upgrade to RTX mobile mxm GPUs when they are released, is this accurate?

 

It is unknown until they are released.

 

Oh alright thanks, but I really hope they are, as that was one of the reasons I got this, plus I couldn't wait

Fingers crossed now I guess

 

From the latest leaks I wouldn't count on a performance improvement worth the upgrade.

 

You usually need to wait a bit after launch to be sure of what is possible and if it's worth it.

 

Can anybody tell me the keyboard model or cross-compatibility? I need to pick up a keyboard, and don't have the laptop with me to take apart. Gotta go Ebay, unless somebody can recommend a cost-effective reseller.

 

The DM and KM keyboard should fit IIRC.

 

The latest leaks seem to indicate that the new RTX cards will be MXM based, though I'm not sure if they will be backwards compatible with the existing motherboard since they will draw more power than the 10 series. It'll probably be compatible, but if you had the 1080 in your laptop, you might want to put the RTX 2070 in the laptop instead since it'll be similar power draw perhaps? Not sure until it's released. See here for some more details, and take it with a grain of salt since it's WCCFTECH. https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-2070-2060-mxm-mobility-specs-leaked/

I also want to add my video review of the P750TM1 sent to me by Eurocom fitted with the Sky X4C i9-9900K and GTX 1080.

Here it is:

Video Description: This is the Eurocom Sky X4C, or officially know as the Clevo P750TM1. It's a laptop that features socketable CPU and upgradable GPU. It's the fastest laptop money can buy that's under 8 lbs weight, and that's not all. It's got crazy amount of ports, 4 hard drives slots, and upgradeable screen. But is it worth buying? In my review, we do plenty of benchmarks, test out the temperatures, and see how fast it really is. Enjoy!

P.S. There was so much to fit in this laptop review, but I also want to mention something important for advanced users. This laptop comes with an unlocked bios developed by Eurocom. It allows you to overclock/underclock/undervolt the CPU, which is great. But you should be aware that other competitors also offer another bios that is widely regarded as better called Prema bios, which I have used before in previous Clevo laptops. HIDEvolution does ship their laptops with the Prema bios, so there's that bonus for them as well, though Eurocom does charge slightly less overall for the same spec'd laptop hardware as far as I know.

 

Thanks for the review. I'm looking at a P750TM1 to replace my aging W230ss, and there isn't a lot of updated content out there on thermals/performance.

It actually did better than I was expecting given the minimal tweaking. No fires broke out.

Edit: Unless I'm missing something, it looks like you have the regular heatsink instead of the upgraded one for the gtx 1080. Is that the case?

 

If you are referring to the Vapor Chamber Heat Sink for dual GPU’s (even if you only have one), it is only available on the EVOC High Performance Systems P870TM1

 

There is an extra heatpipe on the GPU die for the proper GTX 1080 heat sink. The older one in the video also snakes around more than the upgraded version...
This:


Vs the video's reviews:

 

Plus that video heatsink is only two heatpipes on the gpu core.

 

We will ever see p751tm with nvidia quadro mxm cards ? (like p3200,p4200,p5200)

Maybe clevo is waiting for nvidia to release rtx quadro mobile mxm version ?

 

We will have to wait to see. Clevo, and everyone, is keeping quiet right now about roadmaps.

 

There are the slim quadro machines just released but nothing about anything else is out there.

 

You can buy the P5000 that seems to be a P5200 but with a lower clock speed.

 

The main problem is that Clevo P7/P8 system have not had MXM-B headsinks since DM1 generation.

 

Yeah they would fit in the slot but need their own heatsinks which is an expensive development.

 

Few months ago i had a chat on eurocom website about this topic.

He stated that newer c series notebooks (x4c,x7c,x9c) with cfl-s cpus surely use MXM 3.1 but they're larger and have a power port to get power from the motherboard.

He also pointed that current release of the pascal quadro cards (like p5200, p4200, p3200) are MXM 3.1 but they are the smaller size and don't have the power port.
So will not fit or work in the c notebooks


Had ever p750tm/p751tm had quadro gpu support, it would have been the perfect 15,6" desktop replacement (current tornado f5 supports kaby lake cpus only).

 

It also has 512 more cores. The p5200 is modeled after the GTX 1080, while the P5000 is closer to the GTX 1070

 

There is extremely limited reasons to ever get Quadro over GTX, especially in a laptop. Only very few select Apps require quadro. Most productivity apps only get around a 15 - 35% boost for 250% the price. And at the very high end (1080 vs 5200) that 15-35% boost is on top of already very good FPS and or modelling times.

Because of this. They make few sales to the typical Clevo customer. Most Quadro sales are to business' that buy Dell/HP/Lenovo

 

Sometimes it's up to 300% though more, it depends on the app and you are using. For most business cases the investment into 20% less time wasting can be a no brainer.

 

i9-9900K In A Laptop?!
Jarrod'sTech
Published on Jan 4, 2019
This laptop has an Intel i9-9900K desktop PC CPU inside! So 8 cores / 16 threads and it can be overclocked, but just how well does it perform?

Spoiler: Details...

Given the 9900K (8c/16t) is a hot chip we’re expecting some thermal throttling with it cramped inside a portable machine. In this video I’ll cover thermal testing, overclocking, game benchmarks and a number of CPU specific workloads like Adobe Premiere, Handbrake, Blender and more to give you an idea of how it performs.

I've also compared it against a 9900K (8c/16t) in a desktop PC to get an idea of the difference in performance, and against a typical i7-8750H (6c/12t) to see how a regular modern laptop compares.

The laptop is the Clevo P750TM1, sold here in Australia through Metabox, get subscribed for the full review!

Check pricing (Australian dollars): https://www.metabox.com.au/store/b234...

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-lake-cpus-z390.811225/page-140#post-10842253

Apparently it's an updated chassis, as he says it's not as thick, has a swappable / removeable battery(!), and only uses 1 power adapter vs 2 used with the previous 8700k model (didn't mention the adapter wattage on the 9900k model).

 

That's definitively the same Chassis as normal P751. It always has had a easily removable battery (don't think it is "hot swappable"). The P751 has always only needed 1 (330W) power adapter. Only SLI systems need more than 1.

Not sure what system they are comparing it with to be "thinner" and etc..

 

As someone in the other thread pointed out, the reviewer was referring to a previous review of another Clevo P870-TM1 which was a different chassis and build.

IDK if it's hot swappable either, that's why I said "swappable / removeable". Maybe someone with a P751 can let us know the details?

 

swappable / removeable battery = No need for screwdriver. Many laptops today have battery attached with screws(Not really intended to be swapped out with a spare).

 

The battery is hot swappable.

 

Some have them glued *cough*.

 

Upgraded my heat-sink to this and across the board I have temp drops of about 4~8C and slightly quieter operation

This should have been the heatsink to original come with the laptop.

And also the CPU Temps and GPU temps are a bit more separated, so CPU can go up in temps without taking the GPU along with it and vice versa. So each individual component can be overclocked slightly higher.

Like for instance I am happy to run my CPU at 88C but not the GPU. Whereas on the former heat sink if the CPU was at 88C it would drag the GPU to about 87~88C as well but now the GPU can be 81C and CPU at 88C.

Attached image: Old heatsink at the top and upgraded one at the bottom

 

I wonder what heatsink the RTX laptops will use

 

@Timbabs123 if your P750TM was configured with a GTX 1080, it should’ve come with the upgraded heatsink by default.

 

Na its configures with a 1070 BUT the 1070 used to run at about 88~90C when under load which I wasn't comfortable with, especially when the CPU was OC, as the unified heatsink normally raised temps of either component depending on which was running hotter.

 

Is your 1070 TDP modded?

 

Nope, just overclocked

 

Hmmm, that's strange. Either heatsink should be more than capable of keeping a 125W 1070N nice and cool. The upgraded version can even handle a 190W 1080N.

 

Yh I thought the same, the mostly higher temps particularly show up in Shadow of War.

I think there might be a power bug with the game as when in actual gameplay temps dont rise that much with the default cooler, at about 85C but when in the menu e.g upgrading skill points and gear, temps rise to 88~90C. Could this be because fps is uncapped?

 

You can check GPU power draw using HWiNFO64. It's pretty common for GPU load to increase when a UI is overlayed on top of the rest of the game.

 

Right I will give that a go over the weekend and see what I find. Thanks.

 

Have you checked the thermal paste pattern it leaves? It can give clues if contact is not perfect.

 

Yh I will give it a re-paste and take pictures and see how it goes

 

Sounds good

 

Just opened it up, could you have a look and see if the pasting was bad?

 

It looks like the upper part of IHS and the top-right corner of the GPU aren’t making great contact, but it’s not the worst I’ve ever seen.